CFHC Talkback For News Story #44:
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The Storm that Would not Die
10:26 PM EDT - 13 June 2001

The remnants of Allison are still haunting the Southeast US, near North/South Carolina. Regeneration is still a possibility, although somewhat unlikely. It will remain a fairly strong storm center regardless.

Flooding has happened from Texas to the Panhandle, with deadly consequences. This storm will be a memorable one for many, as the effects were spread across a fairly wide area, even though the storm itself never was more than a Tropical Storm.

Tropical systems, and even moreso hybrids like Allison, you always expect the unexpected and must not let your guard down. Water was the killer here from this terribly slow moving storm.

Otherwise there isn't much in the Atlantic other than a wave near the central part of it. The time of the year is not right for anything to come of that, however.


NASA GHCC Interactive Satellite images at:
[NAtl visible] (visible -- Daytime Only) [NAtl infrared] (infrared), and [NAtl water vapor] (water vapor)--Nasa source.
Defiant Visible Infrared More...
Some Forecast models: (NGM, AVN, MRF, ECMWF, ETA)
DoD weather models (NOGAPS, AVN, MRF)
AVN, ECMWF, GFDL, NOGAPS, UKMET

- [mac]


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of course, should have seen this one (#1)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Aiken, SC
Posted On 10:45PM 13-Jun-2001 with id (RPTNQQVNQVNWS*)


steering seems to have died finally. allison is now drifting north over upper pender county, after staunchly holding an ene course for three days. going further inland, after getting to 20 miles from the coast. coming offshore at wilmington was essential to reformation, up at hatteras the ssts start to drop off. still got a warm core profile on the upper air soundings, clearly tropical in nature, but over land i dont think thats going to matter. so toss the reclassification idea unless allison makes a right turn very soon. i have a feeling allison isnt going to move much for the meantime, though.

Will she make it in time (#2)
Posted by: Joe Location: St.Petersburg, FL
Posted On 12:45AM 14-Jun-2001 with id (RQVNSNQXRNQY*)


I'am starting to feel that his system will not regenerate. Thought it would move off the coast around Wilmington tonight, but that hasn't happened yet. As of 12:30 AM the system was sitting between Wilmington and Jacksonville NC. Little NE to no movement with it, I think its going to miss its chance to regenerate if it doesn't turn more Easterly soon. So I'am starting to think that it won't form into a storm again. Just have to wait and see what tomorrow situation looks like.

stuck (#3)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Aiken, SC
Posted On 01:00PM 14-Jun-2001 with id (RPTNQQVNQVNYS*)


still over pender county, about 20-30 miles inland. pressure is about 1 to 2 mb higher than last night. mid level vortex is still intense, starting about 500 feet aloft winds are gale force. nothing that translates to the sfc though. if allison would have stalled just 30 miles se of where it is, this would be a very different story.

Allison (#4)
Posted by: Steve h
Posted On 01:05PM 14-Jun-2001 with id (QSRNRRXNWPNQX*)


Seems to me in the latest sat pix that allison is bulging her center towards the coast and picking up good convection in banding around a smaller center within the broad center. Convection is firing just offshore in the Gulfstream. If she moves another 25-40 miles to the east east-southeast she would explode. Last few frames look to me like she's ever so slowly moving to the E-ESE. Anyone else have a take on this?

Allison on the move! (#5)
Posted by: Joe Location: St.Petersburg, FL
Posted On 01:24PM 14-Jun-2001 with id (RQVNSNQXRNRU*)


Well I guess I was wrong because she is moving to ESE and appears it may move in waters off NC later today. Last night there was little movement and didn't look to moving off the coast any time soon but that appears to be changing. So I agree Steve it does appear to be moving ESE. Also more convection around westside of the system than yesterday.

on the edge (#6)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Aiken, SC
Posted On 02:42PM 14-Jun-2001 with id (RPTNQQVNQVNXT*)


allison has drifted to the shore. right now, looks to be centered over southern onslow county, conservatively five miles inland. it's hard to say, the center has ragged convection and isnt a definite point. the pressure at jacksonville nc has edged slightly down, with light east winds. the low is a 1009, maybe a 1008. a depression if it slides offshore at best. the coast bends back to the east ahead, so it looks to parallel the coast, should it hold course. allison has been lingering on the edge of redevelopment, no more than 40 miles inland, since this time yesterday. somewhat maddening for those of us who are thinking it will redevelop.

on the coast (#7)
Posted by: Alex K
Posted On 03:05PM 14-Jun-2001 with id (VSNTRNQTVNRRS*)


The radar out of N. Carolina shows the center of Allison is on the coast. Literally, half of the center is over water, and the other half of the center is over land. An eastward jog of 30-40 miles might be enough to get it far enough away from the coast to regenerate.

note (#8)
Posted by: Alex K Location: San Antonio, TX
Posted On 04:17PM 14-Jun-2001 with id (VSNTRNQTVNRRS*)


THe latest doppler radar showes the center is just off the coast. Which way it is moving is still up in the air

I really don't want to comment three times in a row, but..... (#9)
Posted by: Alex K Location: San Antonio, Tx
Posted On 06:12PM 14-Jun-2001 with id (VSNTRNQTQNQVU*)


it appears that the center of Allison is almost fully off the coast. Feel free to agree or disagree with what I think i see. Also, if anyone can find a closer doppler radar for just north of Wilmington NC, please tell me the web site. Please post your thoughts. Thanks




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