Very interesting post. It just goes to show that there are so many aspects of forecasting that everyone can take a position and be correct in theory but verification still depends on the immediate factors at the time of observation. The thing that impresses me is that no matter how much historical data and current recon is done, the weather seems to try something new or put a new twist on an old pattern. I am still of the opinion that we will see an early winter for the south. Winter meaning temperatures that make it into the 50's at night, rebounding to whatever the atmosphere will permit for highs.