I too agree with Clark, it could turn out a rainmaker or a storm like Chantal in 2001. I remember that storm, I think it came close to Hurricane status but hit Mexico too fast. Anyways, another burst of convection developing in the circulation, we'll see what morning brings, I doubt we'll see the blow up that we saw last night but, I could be wrong. If it blows up with a LLC, TD4 has arrived, but that's about 50/50 chance in my books. Funny how people say it's gonna be a quiet season when things are setting up for a dangerous season, You got shear lowering, Bermuda high setting up in a dangerous spot, and neutral to La Nina. Just doesn't make sense to say we are gonna have 10 storms or less. Again,m lol that's my opinion.. oh and if this isn't in the right forum, i'm sorry, go ahead and move to the proper forum