Ed DunhamAdministrator
(Former Meteorologist & CFHC Forum Moderator (Ed Passed Away on May 14, 2017))
Tue Aug 30 2005 09:37 AM
Area of Interest - FutureTropical Depression 14

Soon to be upgraded Tropical Depression 14 (Invest 91L) located near 12N 36W at 30/12Z should move west northwest, perhaps northwest, over the next couple of days and then back to west northwest later in the week. Modest shear should minimize intensification for a couple of days with a more rapid intensification thereafter as the shear relaxes. System should attain Tropical Storm status by the end of the week.
ED


native
(Weather Guru)
Tue Aug 30 2005 10:24 AM
Re: Area of Interest - Tropical Depression 14

Thanks for the update Ed. This one seems to command some attention for now. I find this site has the most helpful/useful/up to date information. People in my office were saying about Katrina how they didn't know it was even a storm to watch until 2 days before. I told them all she was actually the remnants of XTD 10 and how I was watching her since mid August. They were shocked and asked how did I know. I told them all of this website! They'll have no excuses now if 14 becomes something to watch.

DebbiePSL
(Weather Guru)
Tue Aug 30 2005 10:26 AM
Re: Area of Interest - Tropical Depression 14

Wow, not what I wanted to hear. Looks like things are in full swing,will we make it through Labor Day week-end without the threat of a hurricane hanging over our heads?

native
(Weather Guru)
Tue Aug 30 2005 10:39 AM
Re: Area of Interest - Tropical Depression 14

Can Skeeto do up a map on this with for now tracks??

disneyfanfl
(Verified CFHC User)
Tue Aug 30 2005 11:17 AM
Re: Area of Interest - Tropical Depression 14

Ed, I noticed you called it "soon to be upgraded TD14". Do you know when it will be upgraded? I can't find anything from the NHC at 11 for it, and the TWO is still for 5:30AM.

disneyfanfl
(Verified CFHC User)
Tue Aug 30 2005 11:35 AM
Re: Area of Interest - Tropical Depression 14

No new TD at 11 from the NHC. The 11:30 TWO only mentions that the enviornment will be growing more favorable and a new TD could be form in 24-36 hours.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATWOAT+shtml/301522.shtml


Ed in Va
(Weather Master)
Tue Aug 30 2005 11:37 AM
Re: Area of Interest - Tropical Depression 14

How about the mid-Atlantic large area of disturbed weather, including X13, anyone think this is going anywhere:
http://orca.rsmas.miami.edu/wximages/jet/1_05/anis.html


disneyfanfl
(Verified CFHC User)
Tue Aug 30 2005 12:12 PM
Re: Area of Interest - Tropical Depression 14

To my untrained eye, it appears to be heading N or NE in that link you provided. I think it's too high to be a factor for the US and would likely be a fish spinner if it developed.

The potential TD14 that Ed mentioned above is lower, so that might be a different story. Time will tell.


Ed in Va
(Weather Master)
Tue Aug 30 2005 01:01 PM
Re: Area of Interest - Tropical Depression 14

Here are some X13 models that will make you dizzy. Looks like X13 with a hangover:
http://www.skeetobiteweather.com/imagelinkbeta.asp?image=AL132005


Ryan
(Storm Tracker)
Tue Aug 30 2005 01:17 PM
Re: Area of Interest - Tropical Depression 14

Quote:

Wow, not what I wanted to hear. Looks like things are in full swing,will we make it through Labor Day week-end without the threat of a hurricane hanging over our heads?




agreed Debbie, my birthdays on monday and i don't want to feel like this is the best bithday ever if people are under the gun for a hurricane


DebbiePSL
(Weather Guru)
Tue Aug 30 2005 02:27 PM
Re: Area of Interest - Tropical Depression 14

Happy Birthday Ryan make your wish earlier and maybe it will just go away. Seriously though, I hope this thing doesn't develop.I spent Labor Day with FRANCES last year (hunkered down)

disneyfanfl
(Verified CFHC User)
Tue Aug 30 2005 05:43 PM
Re: Area of Interest - Tropical Depression 14

5PM NHC advisory indicates that TD14 should develop in the next 24 hours or so and that TD13 is regenerating and we might see advisories issued again in 24 hours or so. Here goes a busy September!
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATWOAT+shtml/302126.shtml


Ed DunhamAdministrator
(Former Meteorologist & CFHC Forum Moderator (Ed Passed Away on May 14, 2017))
Tue Aug 30 2005 09:50 PM
Re: Area of Interest - Future Tropical Depression 14

The wave that looked like it was about to become TD 14 earlier today has weakened, however, a second wave in the same general area near 15N 37W at 31/00Z looks like it has a better potential to evolve into TD 14 in the next 24 hours.
ED


WXMAN RICHIE
(Weather Master)
Tue Aug 30 2005 10:29 PM
Off the Florida coast?

From local WPB Met.:

Well the situation does and can happen when we get later into hurricane season and into October that fronts begin to move down into Florida but because of the warm waters yet these fronts usually stall. In this case Katrina becomes part of the entire hemispheric weather pattern and overall becomes an extratropical low..since this is a strong system for this time of year a front this early is unusual given the front coming toward us and the very warm waters now any front that breaks off from the parent low of any kind up north and high building north and west of us this can take any broken or left behind front to turn into an interverted trough and in most cases a tropical low can develop.. conditions are fair to good in the NW Bahamas and upper level winds are of a weak shearing state which means we will need to keep watching for this front as it moves toward us Thursday and Friday it will stall just offshore and the GFS has been consistent every run on the development of a tropical like low..this is expected to be held in place by a weak trough at mid levels and may drift southwest with time getting close to our coast by later this holiday weekend or early next week..if it sits near the very warm waters it can develop into a tropical storm or worse..right now though the model even adjusting for errors on pressure development intensity keeps it a weak low but the potentialis there for a tropical system to worry for us along our east coast...it may sit for 2 to 3 days before finally lifting northward late next week...It is important to keep watch on this...not to panic or call for the doomsday event but we always must keep on our toes with any situation like this one when it is very consistent on the models too...the gfs..!!


DebbiePSL
(Weather Guru)
Wed Aug 31 2005 02:23 AM
Re: Off the Florida coast?

Thanks for the update. I for one will be watching this site so I can monitor the situation. I spent last Labor Day with Frances and have my fingers crossed.

Unregistered User
(Unregistered)
Wed Aug 31 2005 06:14 PM
Re: What's up with it?

Whats going on with it? Will there even be a Tropical Depression 14?

Unregistered User
(Unregistered)
Wed Aug 31 2005 08:19 PM
Re: What's up with it?

http://flhurricane.com/cyclone/newreply....part=2&vc=1

Unregistered User
(Unregistered)
Wed Aug 31 2005 08:22 PM
Re: What's up with it?

oops. try this. lee formed at 5pm. looks like a fish:http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCDAT3+shtml/312025.shtml

Unregistered User
(Unregistered)
Wed Aug 31 2005 09:16 PM
Re: What's up with it?

That was Depression 13...

Theres a wave behind it but it is forcasted to follow right behind this one to the north...no threat to land

But theres even one behind it..well have to keep an eye on it; it may follow the other two


Ryan
(Storm Tracker)
Thu Sep 01 2005 11:24 AM
11 AM

Tropical Depression 14 forms.

native
(Weather Guru)
Thu Sep 01 2005 11:30 AM
Re: What's up with it?

Just FYI....TD 13 is named. Its name is Lee - a fish spinner (most likely)

Here's TD 14:

www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc_pages/ATL/14L.NONAME/ssmi/gif/full/Latest.html


native
(Weather Guru)
Thu Sep 01 2005 11:35 AM
Re: What's up with it?

Danny From Miami - Here....you may want to read this: It was post by HankFrank (mod) on another thread here @ 9:19 this morning:

Quote:

the basin is likely to go quite active next week. here's the rundown:
nhc tracked the convection and not the center of lee last night.. the center has become more established in the broader low in the area. it won't strengthen until convection redevelops, or maybe the center will migrate towards the convection in spite of current steering to the nw. based on location and synoptic pattern, it has zero chance of affecting land.
91L has likely been a tropical storm since late yesterday. it's maintained a t-2.0 in spite of running underneath an upper trough, and has a vigorous surface circulation that is occasionally firing convection. now it's working into the exit region of the upper low, so the prospects of further development are good. wondering how many more advisory cycles the NHC will say 'thats not a tropical cyclone' when it looks better than Irene did for days. some of the models are taking it more westward than earlier, but the long term trend should be north of the islands and nw to the bermuda vicinity. i'll get to what's happening up there in a minute.
92L has some serious long term prospects if it can get organized. numerous track models are strengthening it into a hurricane and moving it into the caribbean. there may be a good deal going on to the north that will add great uncertainty to the long-range... GFS has it slowly recurving in the western atlantic for days (and doing a loop by the end of the last forecast run.. in mid-september). the system is sheared from the east, but maintaining a t-1.0 rating... has for a day now. probably won't start any real development (and most all guidance suggests it will) until it nears/passes 40w.
western atlantic and gulf... still several model depictions of what happens here, and none of them are that comforting. this situation is something i learned to look for from mr. joe b, and the models have been getting steadily more aggressive with it.. the pattern pulse. Katrina's wake trough is pulling out and leaving ridging aloft to settle off the east coast, while a large upper high digs in over the eastern u.s. and synoptically forces pressure falls from the eastern gulf out to near bermuda.
various model response to this... CMC develops a storm off the east coast that is moving towards the mid atlantic... most of the other globals spin up a duet of lows.. one near bermuda and one near the bahamas. GFS has the bahamas system moving across florida and the gulf into texas.. NOGAPS has a similar pair but a shorter run... euro has three weaker features, but one migrating into the gulf, another moving towards the SE, and another staying quasi-stationary near bermuda. of the model runs, the eastern-most in the low pressure series appears to be interacting with 91L... lee appears to be out of the picture. the system from 92L, if it comes to pass, will be moving in to the south of this large area of unsettled weather.. how it will interact is dependent on an already uncertain complex set of features to the north.
suffice to say, we may have a substantial burst of activity, and several models are depicting a significant system entering the caribbean, and activity potentially in the gulf or near the atlantic seaboard. could be getting busy over labor day weekend/into next week.
HF 1319z01september





He always has (along with the other METS/MOD here) up to date, sound information.


Unregistered User
(Unregistered)
Thu Sep 01 2005 05:15 PM
Re: What's up with it?

thanks for that.. looks like another fish spinner. we'll have to keep our eye on the other wave and maybe even this one.


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