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Floridacane
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Posts: 110
Loc: Palm Bay, Florida
Re: Weather Conditions [Re: Wxwatcher2]
      #20048 - Fri Aug 13 2004 08:32 PM

Here in Palm Bay, we're getting the 1st of the nasty weather. It's getting gusty and raining pretty good. Everyone in the Orlando/Orange County area, please stay safe.

God Bless

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What's brewin' everyone?
Lori


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alan
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Reged: Wed
Posts: 95
Loc: Apopka, FL
Re: charlie [Re: DMFischer]
      #20049 - Fri Aug 13 2004 08:33 PM

While I would not call this storm a joke in any manner, I have been really surprised at how close to the center we had to get before we got any winds. I live northwest of Orlando and we just started getting gusty winds. The talk leading up to this storm had tropical storm force winds up to 100 miles was from the center. I don't think I've gotten tropical storm force winds except for about five minutes during the first squall. I'm sure I'll get more, but I'm pretty sure if you're not 30 miles close to the center, it's not going to be worse than an afternoon thunderstorm. Those near the center are going through hell, and I don't underestimate the power of that.
I'm just surprised at how small the wind radius is. Perhaps someone who is more knowledgeable might be able to discuss why the wind radius became so small.


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Jeffmidtown
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Reged: Wed
Posts: 132
Loc: Atlanta, Ga
Re: Weather Conditions [Re: Floridacane]
      #20050 - Fri Aug 13 2004 08:35 PM

According to the Weather Channel....preliminary reports from Captiva Island....160 homes destroyed and another 160 damaged....

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You know it's a bad day.....when you wake up and see Jim Cantore and Geraldo Rivera broadcasting from your backyard....literally!


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Clark
Meteorologist


Reged: Wed
Posts: 1710
Loc: Great Lakes 45.95N 84.55W
Re: charlie [Re: alan]
      #20051 - Fri Aug 13 2004 08:40 PM

The wind radius was always really small - it's just that the focus for a potential landfall point has always been so large due to the track Charley took. Charlie's a storm like Andrew - very small, but cutting a path like no other through where the eyewall goes.

Latest obs at OIA on the SE side of Orlando have sustained winds just under tropical storm force. My parents live on the SW side of Orlando and are feeling the effects as we speak. Transformers just blew a few miles south of downtown and power will likely go out to the majority of Orlando in the not-so-distant future. Winds are still way up there and any microburst is going to bring down 80+ kt winds - as recorded from the Melbourne radar - to the surface and wreak havoc.

South Orange/North Osceola Cos. have been under tornado warnings three separate times for four tornadoes today, and the threat of tornadoes remains throughout the evening. The center is about to cross into Osceola Co. and pass very near or over Disney. Orlando looks in line for a direct hit. Though it's dark, Orlandoweather.com has live cameras from downtown Orlando and north of Orlando at the Ch. 2 studios...there may be some interesting photos in the next couple of hours.

From there, Daytona Beach looks to be under the gun. This storm has very nearly followed US 17 up the state and I imagine a drive down that road will be very, very telling in the weeks and months to come. The islands - Sanibel, Captiva - may be uninhabitable for the foreseeable future. Many, many people were spared this evening, but many others have seen their lives affected permanently. I can only hope that my parents and all of my friends in Orlando can make it through the storm relatively unprepared and ultimately undamaged.

If you're reading this from the Orlando area, get offline and turn off the electricity to all non-essential items. It's the smart thing to do and can help save your property in the long run. This is a very serious and dangerous situation, and I cannot emphasize that enough.

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GuppieGrouper
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Loc: Polk County, Florida
Re: Weather Conditions [Re: Jeffmidtown]
      #20052 - Fri Aug 13 2004 08:42 PM

I am in Polk County and we were on the Western side of the eyewall. This storm was fierce. I am not able to estimate the winds but there will definitely be some wind damage, flooding and people in poorly constructed buildings or just catching the wind at the wrong angle will have had problems. IT is dark out and we will have to wait til morning to assess what really happened here. But there has been a storm. After a while the wind blows so long and so hard it does not matter how intense the wind is, something will give.
The barometric pressure is very intense when this storm is approaching. Thankfully it is mercifully short.

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Aunt Debbie S
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Reged: Fri
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Loc: Upstate NY
charlie/ORlando [Re: Clark]
      #20053 - Fri Aug 13 2004 08:49 PM

Thank you for posting this info,... I have a neice in a hotel one mile from disney,... we are looking for any info we can get,... we talked to her about an hour ago,... we're from Upstate NY,( so is she) so we are very worried, and your knowledgeable info is appreciated.
I'll continue to read for updates.


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troy2
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Reged: Sat
Posts: 227
Loc: cocoa beach
Cape Canaveral report [Re: GuppieGrouper]
      #20054 - Fri Aug 13 2004 08:51 PM

Getting windier. Not much rain yet, excpet for earlier in the first big band...Wind has really starte dto pick up in the last 30 minutes...

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Jeffmidtown
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Reged: Wed
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Loc: Atlanta, Ga
Re: Weather Conditions [Re: GuppieGrouper]
      #20055 - Fri Aug 13 2004 08:51 PM

According to WKMG's web site a report of about 100 people in Lake Wales in Polk County were injured from Charley. So far all I've heard is 2 fatalities today and they were from traffic accidents.2 roof collapses in Charlotte County according to the Weather Channel. And looking at the radar now on TWC, looks like downtown Orlando is getting the eyewall now.

(Further update from Polk County for the 100 injury report, according to the PIO of Polk County, it was at a nursing home)

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You know it's a bad day.....when you wake up and see Jim Cantore and Geraldo Rivera broadcasting from your backyard....literally!

Edited by Jeffmidtown (Fri Aug 13 2004 08:55 PM)


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troy2
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Loc: cocoa beach
Re: Cape Canaveral report [Re: troy2]
      #20056 - Fri Aug 13 2004 08:54 PM

rain mixing in with the wind..wind changing direction a bit...more south now it seems

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Jamiewx
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Loc: Florida
Impressive Wind [Re: troy2]
      #20057 - Fri Aug 13 2004 09:02 PM

Charley is certainly not a cyclone to be underestimated, impressive video has been shown on local tv (Channel 9) of the news reporter being held up by the wind, as she tried to fall into it. Clearly, this storm still has potential for destruction.

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danielwAdministrator
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Reged: Wed
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Loc: Hattiesburg,MS (31.3N 89.3W)
Re: Impressive Wind [Re: Jamiewx]
      #20058 - Fri Aug 13 2004 09:10 PM

Did you happen to see what steve lyons said about the TV crew in Port Charlotte.
They were filming at the water's edge in winds so high they had to kneel down.
Steve Lyons said "those guys don't have any business being outside in that with a landfalling hurricane"
Next time they showed the same crew they were doing a live shot and got pounded by a large amount of 20 ft long pvc water pipe. Everything hit the ground, camera and all.
Steve lost his "cool" on that crew, never saw him get mad before.
**Folks if Charley is still south of you. Stay at home or in a safe building. You can't see tornadoes, fallen tress and wires at night.**


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WXMAN RICHIE
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Reged: Mon
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Loc: Boynton Beach, FL
Re: Impressive Wind [Re: danielw]
      #20059 - Fri Aug 13 2004 09:14 PM

Orlando International just gusted to 105 mph!!!!!!

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Another typical August:
Hurricane activity is increasing and the Red Sox are choking.

Live weather from my backyard:
http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KFLBOYNT4


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LI Phil
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Reged: Fri
Posts: 2637
Loc: Long Island (40.7N 73.6W)
Danny-boy [Re: danielw]
      #20060 - Fri Aug 13 2004 09:17 PM

Good observations...

>>> Steve Lyons said "those guys don't have any business being outside in that with a landfalling hurricane

I'm not going to bash TWC ATTM, but the regulars know my feelings on SL. To me, it seems he never met a hurricane he'd run from. Gimme the late John Hope or even Jon Nese

Hoping all your friedls and family are safe...

I remain,

LI Phil

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2005 Forecast: 14/7/4

BUCKLE UP!

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danielwAdministrator
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Reged: Wed
Posts: 3459
Loc: Hattiesburg,MS (31.3N 89.3W)
Re: Impressive Wind [Re: WXMAN RICHIE]
      #20061 - Fri Aug 13 2004 09:18 PM

Just checked the Tampa and Melbourne radar base velocity products. They are both showing 97kt winds from the center.

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Frank P
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Posts: 1299
Re: Impressive Wind [Re: danielw]
      #20062 - Fri Aug 13 2004 09:30 PM

I was on the road all day today and didn't get to check or monitor the progress of Charley.... The radio just doesn't cut it.... you'd get about a 1 minute update every hour or so....I just read about 150 or so posts... what a great venue to get the feel of what happened, and thought of posters directly involve with the storm.... I tried to post last night but couldn't... not sure why... I just hope the damage is not too bad.... I'm sure the recovery is under way as I write this.... at least for the areas that have alread been hit... there is still some seriously bad weather left with this system

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MikeCAdministrator
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Reged: Sun
Posts: 2946
Loc: Orlando, FL 28.49N 81.47W
Re: Weather Conditions [Re: MikeC]
      #20063 - Fri Aug 13 2004 09:52 PM

quickly...

Situation deteriorating at NSB, wind gusts getting higher. Power flickering.

WESH tv (Channel 2) has audio only, no video signal.
WFTV (Channel 9) has power and radar (but on backup)
WKTS (Channel 6) has backup power and NO radar

Probably last update as its getting rough here. Good luck all.


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danielwAdministrator
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Reged: Wed
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Loc: Hattiesburg,MS (31.3N 89.3W)
Re: Impressive Wind [Re: Frank P]
      #20064 - Fri Aug 13 2004 09:53 PM


FLORIDA REGIONAL WEATHER ROUNDUP
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY RUSKIN FL
900 PM EDT FRI AUG 13 2004
http://weather.cod.edu/danatext.html

SANFORD HVY RAIN 76 73 91 E36G45 29.75F FOG
ORLANDO EXEC HVY RAIN 73 72 94 E54G70 29.39F FOG
ORLANDO INTL HVY RAIN 73 73 100 E61G83 29.33F VSB 1/2

Edited by danielw (Fri Aug 13 2004 09:55 PM)


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recmod
Weather Guru


Reged: Sun
Posts: 188
Loc: Orlando, FL
Re: Impressive Wind [Re: danielw]
      #20065 - Fri Aug 13 2004 10:23 PM

Well, we just went through the center of Charley here in Casselberry (25 miles N of Orlando). Winds were extremely severe for over an hour (local mets measured 80-90mph in my home-town). The wind has now died down considerably, tho the rain is still very heavy. Through the storm, we hunkered down in a hallway, hearing loud thumps strike the walls and roof of my house repeatedly.
With the storm lessening, I just went outside to check out the damage. I was stunned by the severity. I no longer have a fence around the pool in my backyard. Large trees are down all around, some uprooted, others snapped off. Shingles from a neighbor's house are strewn all over the street. The rain was torrential...and much of my neighborhood is knee-deep in water. While I was outside, a transformer in the next street exploded...sounded like repeated rifle shots with bright blue flashing. Surprisingly, I did not lose the electricity. All the power lines in my immediate neighborhood are underground. Historically, we have been very lucky to keep power in even the most extreme storms.
As I write this, the winds have picked up again, though not as intense as earlier. All in all, we were very lucky with Charley. The house structure is intact....though one window leaked quite badly. I'll upload some damage pics in the morning when the sun comes up.

--Lou


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Jamiewx
Storm Tracker


Reged: Wed
Posts: 371
Loc: Florida
NOAA Weather Radio [Re: recmod]
      #20066 - Fri Aug 13 2004 10:29 PM

Does anyone know if the Orlando Weather Radio transmitter is damaged or out of service, because i am not picking up the station now.

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BabyCat
Weather Guru


Reged: Thu
Posts: 150
Loc: New Orleans, La.
Re: NOAA Weather Radio [Re: Jamiewx]
      #20067 - Fri Aug 13 2004 10:33 PM

Danielle just got named...
TD#4

The reports out of SW Fla. are really heartbreaking...


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