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Latly i have found quite a few songs and bands that are anti-war/anti-american. I'v been calling a few local stations to try to get them to stop playing anti-american music because i feel like if they "hate" america so much than they can get their asses out! I suggest you all call around to your local stations if your having the same problem and try to get them to stop playing those songs. I have gotten them to not play hardly any system of a down "havnt heard any in a while" on real rock 101.1. Anyway this kinda relates to my other post American Pride but i thought this was another issue. I dont expect to get to many replys to this but i urge you all to stop this anti-american bulls--- "sorry for the language"
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Of course I'm going to respond to this post, good topic. You can't associate war with America, that is not what America is for; well known figures today such as Madonna say comments out of there a#$. We are in Iraq for a reason. America does not go around looking for trouble though it might seem like it at times but with power comes responsibility, and we have power so you do the math...There is and there will always be anti-war people, it's just human nature to not agree, thankfully this war is not like Vietnam. Ignore comments blurted out from singers, rappers etc. most of them are a bunch of idiots that feel they are better then everyone, despite most of them didn't even finish high school...
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Spike
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I'm glad this war isnt like Nam. This war has a purpoise we saved potential millions from sadam. And were trying to catch Osama now. And yea your right about singers lol didnt even finish highschool. I'm tired of everyone saying that american is a war hungry country who just likes to kill people, because this isnt true we have a great county who is trying to save people.
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Spike & Keith:
Some of the greatest music ever written was anti-war music. There's a difference between abhoring war and bashing one's country. Then there's also "freedom of speech". If you don't like what's on the dial, change the station. Thank god we in America CAN listen to whatever we want...if you really want to make a statement, don't buy Springsteen, Streisand, U2, et. al. Don't go to movies (or rent them) made by or starring Redford, Baldwin, Moore...you may not like what they have to say, but much American blood has been shed over the years for their right to say it.
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Spike
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you have a good point. Freedom of speech is one of the things that makes america better. I didnt mean to come across as an hole. Sorry <img src="http://images.flhurricane.com/cyclone/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
further emphasis on the a word will reinforce how you come across~danielw 
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Keith234
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Yeah freedom of speech is good and I didn't see where I said it wasn't. I just said not to listen to what celebs and pop stars say, because there visions are usually cloudy on politics; it is much better to listen to people that have expertise in the field.
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I'm glad this war isnt like Nam. This war has a purpoise we saved potential millions from sadam. And were trying to catch Osama now. And yea your right about singers lol didnt even finish highschool. I'm tired of everyone saying that american is a war hungry country who just likes to kill people, because this isnt true we have a great county who is trying to save people.
America is a war hungry country indeed.
Saddam was killing his people with the gas we provided him, and we did nothing before. Anybody who justifies this war is a complete moron and should send their own children to "liberate Iraq".
Edited by danielw (Sat Mar 11 2006 01:39 AM)
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punk, i may be just a clueless idiot dipshit, but i'm afraid you've been rebroadcasting propaganda. that doesn't make you look very smart. punks aren't known for being very clever, i guess. get your facts straight, lose the self-righteous tone, and learn to make arguments that can survive outside of a liberal blog and you'll be well on your way to understanding those mysterious and misunderstood people, the americans.
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Gotta disagree with you some H/F. Did we or did we not arm Saddam (gas, munitions, etc.)? We did. You and I. Taxpayers. Americans. Heh.
As for anti-war music, Rock and Roll would have never gotten off the ground had it not been for Vietnam. Think all those great American 60's acts - Jimi Hendrix Experience, Jefferson Airplane, Country Joe and the Fish - among others.
People have a right, especially American people, to say exactly what they want. The real danger is when people believe the lies propagated by the right (= those in power) and allow themselves to be motivated by fear rather than liberty.
If it was up to me, I'd nuke the right and the left and vote for the Libertarians. Oh wait. I usually do anyway!
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You forgot about Frank Zappa and the Fire Sign Theather . What happen to Humble Pie or Savoy Brown.....Blood Rock.......Mandrill.............Be happy and smile.......Weatherchef
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For the record:
Saddam's arsenal was a mishmosh of weapons, mostly Soviet made. His chem stuff wasn't terribly sophisticated, and he didn't buy it off of us. There are various nonproliferation treaties that cover nonconventional weapons like that, and the U.S. track record with them is good. As far as us supplying him financially.... well, we bought oil from Iraq. Politically were friendly with the country as well. No attempt to prevent him massing arms back in the 80s because it was Iran we were pissed at. Cold war, different situation altogether... even though the overarching theme of getting the lesser of two evils was just the same as today. But anyway, Saddam became persona non grata after invading Kuwait. Middle East, typical story. Over there it's always 12th century cultural attitudes trying to tackle the problems of the 21st century, with this weird sort of cult-of-personality fascism that the culture seems to foster, be it a mullah or a Saddam. Insh'Allah, I guess. Stuck dealing with it right now, but the sooner we can not have to deal with that part of the world, the better.
Now as for the rock stuff, can't argue. Pretty much all of the innovators in the music scene have swayed left. There's the odd Nugent in there to mix things up, but mostly politically left. Good music is good music, anyway. Hehheh... Nugent.
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To qualify the way I've stated some of these things... it isn't right for me to argue what Steve said about us arming Saddam. From a financial standpoint the U.S. supported Iraq early in its war with Iran, which was a short term act in line with our overarching Cold War goals. It made sense at the time, though dealing with the Middle East is a sad affair in the grand scheme. Still--the stakes are high there. The oil resources there are critical, as control of them by an enemy would tip the balance of world power. Not something we can ignore. -HF
Edited by HanKFranK (Mon Apr 03 2006 04:20 AM)
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Just a bit of a correction. Rock & Roll was well established long before our involvement in the Vietnam War. The first R&R song of any popularity was probably Blue Suede Shoes - not by Elvis, but by Carl Perkins in 1954. Other hit makers of the mid and late 50's included Fats Domino, Chuck Berry, The Everly Brothers, Bill Halley, Barrett Strong, Jerry Lee Lewis and Buddy Holly. Even Pat Boone got into the act. Firsthand knowledge - those were my high school years
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