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wxman007
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Re: NHC Track [Re: ShaggyDude]
      #21628 - Mon Aug 30 2004 04:31 PM

Slight leftward shift at 5...with another sampling mission going on right now we should get some really good results from the evening modelling...

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Re: NHC Track [Re: ShaggyDude]
      #21629 - Mon Aug 30 2004 04:33 PM

Well, Frances is back up to 110kts, and is forecast to reach 120kts in about 72 hours, although the discussion does say that this is conservative. The satellite appearance is still not quite as impressive as a couple of days ago, but it looks formidable nevertheless.

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Re: NHC Track [Re: wxman007]
      #21630 - Mon Aug 30 2004 04:34 PM

NHC five day

Look at Saturday

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wxman007
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Re: NHC Track [Re: LI Phil]
      #21631 - Mon Aug 30 2004 04:37 PM

Do not be surprised if that track shifts further south and west with time...

I fear this is a real headache for south FL...and POSSIBLY for those of us in the Panhandle longer term.

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Start your supplys now. [Re: MikeC]
      #21633 - Mon Aug 30 2004 04:40 PM

I was at the Lowes in Titusville today. I called at 1pm the truck was just arriving with 250 generators on it.
I went there at 4pm there where 25 left. The folks up here aren't playin.


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Re: NHC Track [Re: wxman007]
      #21634 - Mon Aug 30 2004 04:41 PM

Quote:

Do not be surprised if that track shifts further south and west with time...

I fear this is a real headache for south FL...and POSSIBLY for those of us in the Panhandle longer term.




How far west on the central Gulf Coast could you see this storm moving ?

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wxman007
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Re: NHC Track [Re: HCW]
      #21635 - Mon Aug 30 2004 04:45 PM

Too early to speculate, but I wouldn't think any further west than Mobile...but that is definately a WAG, not based on hard data.

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Jason [Re: wxman007]
      #21636 - Mon Aug 30 2004 04:46 PM

I know that here in Texas we will be spared of any effects from Frances but I wanted to get your input on something maybe forming in the central or western gulf in a few days. Do you think it is realistic?


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Re: NHC Track [Re: LI Phil]
      #21637 - Mon Aug 30 2004 04:49 PM

Oh sure… let’s move to Florida. The summers are a little hot, but the winters are fantastic! Let’s pick the center of the state so we don’t get hit by the brunt of any hurricanes…

Been here about 45 days (lurking at this site since February). We were made nervous by Bonnie. Took a slight slapping from Charley (the eye passed about 20 miles east of here) and now Frances looks like she wants to tangle. If Frances comes through Polk County, I’ll need to really reconsider my geographic preferences for permanent residence!


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Re: NHC Track [Re: wxman007]
      #21638 - Mon Aug 30 2004 04:50 PM

I am seeing forecaster invoking the "A" name. Please, not that. This is going to be a very stressful week. Best to prepare the sooner the better.

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Re: Hermine Raises TS Warnings for Cape Cod, Frances Track Questions [Re: Clark]
      #21639 - Mon Aug 30 2004 04:50 PM

Quote:

The last bit I'll mention about this storm...

The FSU Superensemble tracks are beginning to be very consistent from run to run. According to the head guy, when that happens...watch out.

It's converging on the Miami area.

Just something to watch.




That's just FSU afraid of the football game Monday night. They hope that if they tweak their model to show a Miami hit, the game will definitely be postponed until a later date. hahaha in all seriousness, I am still finding it hard to bite on a SE FL landfall. I just don't think the ridge is going to be strong enough. I keep hearing people at work draw comparisons to Andrew, but let's face it, the ridge that drove Andrew was the mother of all ridges. This ridging over Frances seems rather pedestrian, and probably won't build far enough west for a direct SE FL hit. Just my thought.


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Re: NHC Track [Re: wxman007]
      #21640 - Mon Aug 30 2004 04:50 PM

Are you predicting the ridge to strenghten? Why, because of the dry subsiding air that is being pushed over the ridge from Frances, or another reason.

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Re: Gaston and Hermine [Re: Rabbit]
      #21641 - Mon Aug 30 2004 04:50 PM

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Hermine looks like it could be on the coast of Rhode Island or Massachussetts by 8pm tonight
Also, Gaston could be back over water by 11pm, and if that happens, it will likely go directly to TS because the NRL site has the intensity at 45 mph and 998 mb on the satellite page

wind and satellite data

I am still thinking that Frances will turn east very close to the Florida east coast as a Cat III




Hey Rabbit,
just a heads up. NRL has stopped updating Gaston at this point... the lastest NHC report had 30 MPH sustained winds, it's still hanging together, but it's certainly not what NRL has up there (of course if someone else wants to verify one way or another, feel free... just what I'm obserbing)

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Re: NHC Track [Re: SkeetoBite]
      #21642 - Mon Aug 30 2004 04:52 PM

Or go live in California with the earthquakes.............no warning at all with those.

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Hebert's Box [Re: SoonerShawn]
      #21643 - Mon Aug 30 2004 04:53 PM

Frances officially makes it into Hebert's Box. Remember, almost every single major hurricane that went through that box ended up hitting S. FL. Almost every single one that didn't go through the box didn't hit S. FL. There are VERY FEW exceptions to this. The pattern has proven accurate for 9 out of every 10 storms that developed & hit Dade, Broward & Palm Bch. Counties.

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Re: NHC Track [Re: Rasvar]
      #21644 - Mon Aug 30 2004 04:54 PM

the utterly ironic thing is that this is the same name list as 1992

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Re: Hermine Raises TS Warnings for Cape Cod, Frances Track Questions [Re: AphCane04]
      #21645 - Mon Aug 30 2004 04:55 PM

That FSU Superensemble track has to be on target... I mean, any FSU fan (like myself) knows they can't play in the rain and win! (See Louisville, Miami, etc.) Let's hope this sucker stays out to sea... or atleast stays away from Miami. Rix needs to finally beat those guys.

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Re: Hermine Raises TS Warnings for Cape Cod, Frances Track Questions [Re: rjp]
      #21646 - Mon Aug 30 2004 05:03 PM

when do watches go up for se bahamas

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wxman007
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Re: NHC Track [Re: Keith234]
      #21647 - Mon Aug 30 2004 05:04 PM

1) Global models have a real tendency to underforecast ridges.

2) Large storms tend to reinforce ridges.

3) Cork in the stream...Frances won't be influenced as much by the outside synoptic forces as she will flow along with them, and modify them to some extent. Be very wary right now if you live anywhere between Hatteras and Mobile.

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LI Phil
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Hebert's Box [Re: wxman007]
      #21648 - Mon Aug 30 2004 05:08 PM

For anyone out there who may not be familiar with Hebert's box, here's a link to some good info.

Hebert's Box

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