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Keith234
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Re: JBs call [Re: LI Phil]
      #21895 - Tue Aug 31 2004 10:43 AM

I said that this one would hit the outer banks area too, my techinque is called persitence and climatololgy one of these days your bound to be right. I use stuff like that for long range tracking hurricanes because there is no way that you can predict how things are going to shape out in the upper air features 10-11 days in advance. Raining pretty hard here had a wind gust up to 35 mph, big whoop!

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wxman007
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Re: GFS Data Question [Re: Rabbit]
      #21896 - Tue Aug 31 2004 10:45 AM

Quote:

so the model with the biggest turn is the one with the latest data?




Not exactly...the 00Z run of the GFS, with the dropsondes, was further west....the 00Z Eta, with the dropsondes, was much further s and west. The 06Z GFS (with the newsst data) is further west and south than the 00Z run. The 06Z Eta (again, with the newest data) trended back north a bit, but is still a far left track. This mornings Eta (which is only in to 54hrs as I write this, and contains last nights sondes,which are now 12 hrs old) is a little more north and east, but not nearly as much as the GFS. No 12Z GFS to look at yet.

So we are seeing pretty good swings in model solutions...making any forecast a low-confidence one at this point.

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Jamiewx
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11am track [Re: SkeetoBite]
      #21897 - Tue Aug 31 2004 10:46 AM

So based on this track from the 11am Advisory they are looking for it to skim up the east coast of FL now and remain offshore, until it gets to the FL/GA border and then make landfall perhaps.

Nice graphic there Skeetobite, how did you create it?


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anony
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Re: Track shift [Re: wxman007]
      #21898 - Tue Aug 31 2004 10:47 AM

Now goes to JAX area at 1100. Stay tuned, it'll change again!

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Lake Toho - Kissimmee
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Re: GFS Data Question [Re: wxman007]
      #21899 - Tue Aug 31 2004 10:47 AM

The lastest 11 AM is in the track has been nudged a little to the right and north..

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doug
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Re: JBs call [Re: LI Phil]
      #21900 - Tue Aug 31 2004 10:49 AM

JB is obviously picking up on the data we received that the NCEP may have information others don't...any way I think we all agreed that Wednesday's models will be the tale...I am impressed so far this year with the NHC's 72 hour fixes, unlike a couple of years ago when anything else did happen.

In response to DEE of Bradenton...IF the NHC 5 day were to hold, and that is what this discussion is all about, then in Bradenton/ Parrish we should get only the W and SW quardrant and then " only " tropical force winds I would suspect.
If it did a Donna trac and similar intensity...again NW abd W side, but probably hurricane CATI to II force for about 30-60 minutes., depending on where it would enter the coast.

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luki
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Re: Models [Re: SkeetoBite]
      #21901 - Tue Aug 31 2004 10:49 AM

ive seen some models suggest a JAX landfall allthough in the past 24 hrs they change but still some are suggesting it.Being in JAX Im extremely concerned,we havent had a hit here since dora in 64 and ever since floyd and now Charley our forcasters here anyway are real reluctant to say anyting,i have a bad feeling abut this one,seems to me with every update the cone comes a little more N,my fear is everyone in this general area will not be concerned and we could very well see a Charley play out here

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wxman007
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Re: GFS Data Question [Re: Lake Toho - Kissimmee]
      #21902 - Tue Aug 31 2004 10:49 AM

Yes, it has...although I haven't read the disco yet, that means that they are banking on the GFS/GFDL combo...

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LI Phil
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NHC 5 day [Re: luki]
      #21903 - Tue Aug 31 2004 10:50 AM

Track more northerly...looks like FL/SC border:

5 Day Track

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meto
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Re: GFS Data Question [Re: jlauderdal]
      #21904 - Tue Aug 31 2004 10:51 AM

yep, some are talking bout floyd and this one, there are big diffrences, this one is much farther sourh, going west, and there is no trof, as there was with floyd. looks to be getting even stronger. 145+ today.

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Wxwatcher2
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Re: GFS Data Question [Re: wxman007]
      #21905 - Tue Aug 31 2004 10:52 AM

Morning Jason,
Good to see you on again.

Please feel free to give your input.
This looks bad for the central part of the state

History would predict a N. turn but also many historic storms have crossed the state. In the last 50 years, most have curved up to the NC area however.


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tbaje
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Re: GFS Data Question [Re: meto]
      #21907 - Tue Aug 31 2004 10:53 AM

based on the models what is turning it north a weakening in the High? pardon my ignorance.

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Redbird
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Re: NHC 5 day [Re: LI Phil]
      #21908 - Tue Aug 31 2004 10:55 AM

Florida - Georgia right?

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Keith234
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Re: GFS Data Question [Re: meto]
      #21909 - Tue Aug 31 2004 10:57 AM

There is a trough actually in the northeast, that's suppose to work it's magic on Frances and pull it up north, but there could be some change to that as the approaching high will weaken it to some degree.

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rmbjoe1954
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Re: Models [Re: SkeetoBite]
      #21910 - Tue Aug 31 2004 10:57 AM

It would be cool if you could update this based on the 11AM NHC forecast track.

Thanks!

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Shawn
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Re: GFS Data Question [Re: tbaje]
      #21911 - Tue Aug 31 2004 10:59 AM

South Florida has a pretty good chance of missing this. This thing is going to Georgia or South Carolina.

Tomorrow will tell the tale, though. If this thing doesn't start going "officially" WNW by tomorrow night, Florida is going to be back on the hotseat. But, if it is, most of Florida will be pretty safe.


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Justin in Miami
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Re: GFS Data Question [Re: tbaje]
      #21912 - Tue Aug 31 2004 10:59 AM

Glad to see this site is still going strong! Storm2k is jammed up. Not many crazy people hyping everything up here as well. Thanks everyone.

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luki
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Re: NHC 5 day [Re: Redbird]
      #21913 - Tue Aug 31 2004 10:59 AM

thats what im seeing,ive had a gut feeling about this,and thats all it is im not an expert by any means,even though its obvious where they are now putting it cant help but have that voice in the back of my head saying its not gonna hit us,i do know thats a good way of thinking,we are so overdue to be hit up here

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caneman
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Re: NHC 5 day [Re: Redbird]
      #21914 - Tue Aug 31 2004 11:00 AM

Ths is actually stil not a good scenarion because it would run the coast from Cape Canaveral to JAX at around 30 miles East of the shoreline. Tremendous flooding, storm sure and wind damage if ths pans out

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Redbird
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Re: GFS Data Question [Re: Shawn]
      #21915 - Tue Aug 31 2004 11:00 AM

Shawn what are you basing this on?

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