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teal61
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Re: GFDL [Re: Unregistered User]
      #22750 - Wed Sep 01 2004 07:54 PM

That water vapor shot is from January 9, 2004.

Seems to be a little early for the 00Z GFDL.


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Neptune
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Duval County and St. Johns County [Re: MikeC]
      #22751 - Wed Sep 01 2004 07:56 PM

All public schools in Duval and St. Johns County are closed on Friday.

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Kevin
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Re: Frances [Re: WXMAN RICHIE]
      #22752 - Wed Sep 01 2004 07:57 PM

Quote:

Email from a friend:

The NHC is now putting Frances ashore at Vero Beach or so. That's a 24 hour southward movement from Jacksonville. If that holds the Orlando metro area will get blasted like with Charley but worse.

I'm still forecasting a Ft. Lauderdale-Miami window, the only Meteorologist (I think) forecasting that landfall, with no changes over the past three days. Even this landfall can still blast the Tampa Bay area but more likely a Sarasota to Ft. Myers window. A path south of Miami through the Florida Keys and/or Florida Straits is also "possible".

Take Care,
Thomas F. Giella
Retired Space & Atmospheric Weather Forecaster
Plant City, FL




Basically, Mr. Giella knows what is going on internally at the NHC this evening? Vero Beach is further south of the 5PM forecast, which basically showed a Melbourne landfall. The track (internally) shifted southward?


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SoonerShawn
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Models [Re: Unregistered User]
      #22753 - Wed Sep 01 2004 07:57 PM

Whenever there is a trough around it seems that most of the time the models tend to lean toward the trough picking the system up. It's like they are bias to the troughs. Sometimes they are right but sometimes they are wrong. I haven't seen too many models that would favor a ridge over a trough. Just an opinion.

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BillD
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Still no Hurricane Watch for South FL [Re: MikeC]
      #22754 - Wed Sep 01 2004 07:57 PM

The 8PM still does not have a Hurricane Watch for Florida.

Pressure holding at 938, 140mph wind speed, speed 14mph, WNW heading.

Bill


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kelcot
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Re: Duval County and St. Johns County [Re: Neptune]
      #22755 - Wed Sep 01 2004 07:57 PM

they also closed schools in Indian River County (Vero and Sebastian) the difference is that they are to be closed tomarrow and Friday

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Frank P
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Cat 5 Rick [Re: rickonboat]
      #22756 - Wed Sep 01 2004 07:58 PM

Frances still looks to be moving in a general wnw motion, best guess ~290 to 295 degrees.... not the 280 to 285 motion of earlier today, but not 315 degrees either.... IMO....

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ShaggyDude
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Re: Duval County and St. Johns County [Re: kelcot]
      #22757 - Wed Sep 01 2004 08:01 PM

Don't know if already posted, but all schools, colleges, county offices and NASA are closed thurs and fri.

In Brevard, that is.

Edited by ShaggyDude (Wed Sep 01 2004 08:03 PM)


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andy1tom
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Re: Frances [Re: Kevin]
      #22758 - Wed Sep 01 2004 08:02 PM

i think he may have "insider information" he has sure gave us some heads-up on info

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Chad
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Re: GFDL [Re: teal61]
      #22759 - Wed Sep 01 2004 08:02 PM

Thanks for catching that...I've edited it out.

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spook
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Re: GFDL [Re: Chad]
      #22760 - Wed Sep 01 2004 08:05 PM

22.3-71.4-looks like almost nw

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ShaggyDude
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Re: Frances [Re: andy1tom]
      #22761 - Wed Sep 01 2004 08:05 PM

Well, it does seem like the eye is growing once more.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/float-wv-loop.html
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/float-ir4-loop.html


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WXMAN RICHIE
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Palm Beach County [Re: Chad]
      #22763 - Wed Sep 01 2004 08:07 PM

Palm Beach County schools now closed for the next 2 days. Originally tomorrow was going to be a half day in the a.m.

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Doombot!
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Re: GFDL [Re: teal61]
      #22764 - Wed Sep 01 2004 08:09 PM

Quote:

Seems to be a little early for the 00Z GFDL.




http://www.sfwmd.gov/org/omd/ops/weather/plots/storm_06.gif

GFDL ran @ 2327z


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Mooshie-SC
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Re: Hurricane Frances in the Evening [Re: MikeC]
      #22765 - Wed Sep 01 2004 08:11 PM

Was the turn to the NW mentioned in latest advisory expected?

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Shawn W.
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Re: GFDL [Re: Doombot!]
      #22767 - Wed Sep 01 2004 08:13 PM

Those 3 tracks would put Charleston (me) on the immediate NW side of the storm. Jesus, we JUST got hit by Gaston 4 days ago.

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wxman007
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Re: GFDL [Re: Doombot!]
      #22769 - Wed Sep 01 2004 08:15 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Seems to be a little early for the 00Z GFDL.




http://www.sfwmd.gov/org/omd/ops/weather/plots/storm_06.gif

GFDL ran @ 2327z




...off of 18Z data....so it isn't surprising that it mirrors the GFS...It has not run on 00Z data yet.

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Humanriff
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Re: Hurricane Frances in the Evening [Re: Doombot!]
      #22770 - Wed Sep 01 2004 08:15 PM

Don't even think about coming to Florida this weekend. I don't know what frame of reference you have about big storms like this, but if it comes through Orlando as the current track shows, it could turn MCO into a junkyard. The airlines will be getting all of their equipment somewhere else and it could be a week before you get out of here. We just went through Charley a couple of weeks ago and were just on the edge of it, and didn't have power for 3 days.

Stay where you are...safe.


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HCW
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Re: Hurricane Frances in the Evening [Re: Mooshie-SC]
      #22771 - Wed Sep 01 2004 08:15 PM

Can someone please post a SLOSH map for South and Central FL ?

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Chad
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Re: GFDL [Re: teal61]
      #22772 - Wed Sep 01 2004 08:15 PM

Quote:

That water vapor shot is from January 9, 2004.




I think it's a typo on the image...
Look at all 3 for GOES east...

http://www.met.fsu.edu/explores/tropsat.html

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