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LI Phil
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Re: Current Conditions [Re: MikeC]
      #32033 - Sat Sep 25 2004 06:19 PM

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I posted Ed's notes tonight on the main article, he's leaning more north than I am, but I'm tending to think the answer lies somewhere in the middle.

These hurricane sites aren't a competition. Jim Williams I have a lot of respect for and do like Hurricane City a lot. So honestly the poll doesn't mean much to me. You gotta remember I made this site originally for me to have a lot of info at my fingertips and that line of thought really hasn't changed.




Ahem...

Well, I love JimW's site (not his boards, however, too damn confusing), he does have a lot of stuff, some of which you can't get here (like city history/cams/radio/etc). When I have six or seven windows open, CFHC is always the first, but there are many others...

I usually keep CFHC, Accuwx pro, Hurricane City, Wunderground, SSD, NRL, and then a window I jump from site to site.

They're all good and should all be used in conjunction with CFHC...although I believe everyone of those sites Mike has provided a link to. Boatus and some of the college sites are great too. I've got more damn bookmarks than I can shake a stick at.

Anyway, while I agree that it's not a "competition" it is nice to be winning the poll!

If WXMAN RICHIE didn't already post this, his call will be between 8 & 11...if he calls me first, I'll try to narrow that timeframe...

Fasten yo' seatbelts

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sthorne
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Re: Current Conditions [Re: Unregistered User]
      #32034 - Sat Sep 25 2004 06:25 PM

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Power's flickering on and off here, not much longer until we're out for good. Most of my family lives in Singer Island or coastal Jupiter, so we're all camped out here in Jupiter farms 10 miles inland (in a very solid home). The news has a disgusting amount of interviews with people on barrier islands, who after Frances, are insisting on staying. I have a sick feeling there's going to be a lot more direct storm-related casualties than with the other three

Stay safe everybody, catch you on the flip side!




I agree, I'm afraid there are going to be some very tragic Florida reports on this storm in the days to come. We have ten people here -- several refugees from Frances damaged homes. Wind and rain are really starting to roll here -- I can't believe I still have power, but we are starting to flicker too.


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tpratch
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Hunker Down! [Re: sthorne]
      #32035 - Sat Sep 25 2004 06:29 PM

Emergency update for the HD drinking game!!

Add the keyword "complacent" to the drink list. They're saying it far more often than the other two


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Re: Current Conditions [Re: WXMAN RICHIE]
      #32036 - Sat Sep 25 2004 06:31 PM

I want to thank you all for all of your help & info during Ivan. I am in NE Georgia. Our county had 4 or more tornadoes that Ivan brought through..and lots of flooding. Anyone want to take a stab at what we can expect again here? I'm really hoping its not like last Thursday. It was very scary.

Thanks again.


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LI Phil
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Re: Current Conditions [Re: sthorne]
      #32037 - Sat Sep 25 2004 06:32 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Power's flickering on and off here, not much longer until we're out for good. Most of my family lives in Singer Island or coastal Jupiter, so we're all camped out here in Jupiter farms 10 miles inland (in a very solid home). The news has a disgusting amount of interviews with people on barrier islands, who after Frances, are insisting on staying. I have a sick feeling there's going to be a lot more direct storm-related casualties than with the other three

Stay safe everybody, catch you on the flip side!




I agree, I'm afraid there are going to be some very tragic Florida reports on this storm in the days to come. We have ten people here -- several refugees from Frances damaged homes. Wind and rain are really starting to roll here -- I can't believe I still have power, but we are starting to flicker too.




Please forgive any perceived insensitivity...trust me...I'm aching for all you guys up here...

But with all that FL has been through, how could people not be as worried with this monster as they should? I know...I know. I saw the interviews with those who weathered Frances...

This is going to make Frances look like a FRIGGIN' PICNIC...

I feel so bad for those who aren't giving Jeanne the utmost respect...I'm sure everyone who reads these boards took every possible precaution and told anyone who would listen how bad this was going to be...

I hoped to be wrong, but both me and Scott said CAT III at landfall on sat/sun...

After a season like this, how could people NOT be ready for this...I feel so horrible...

Sorry for the mini-rant...everyone in her path godspeed...and to anyone who didn't fully prepare...you really have my prayers because you're going to need them.

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Lurker99
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Re: Current Conditions [Re: sthorne]
      #32038 - Sat Sep 25 2004 06:34 PM

I'm disgusted with those interviews of people who should be evacuating but are not. Some stay behind just so they can be on TV. Doesn't the media have any ethics in this regard?

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Rasvar
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Re: Current Conditions [Re: LI Phil]
      #32039 - Sat Sep 25 2004 06:35 PM

Well, I have shifted into hunker down and wait mode. Turned on some of the football games for a break from the coverage. I am sure later tonight I will be glued to the coverage. Hopefully has all of their preps done and evacuated if they needed too. The evacuation door is just about closed. Path still looks like it will bring the worst of the storm to my location when it gets here. Planning on about five to seven days of no power. Took my final pre-hurricane shower. Getting ready to crank the AC up and turn the fridge and freezer to max. Tub is filled with water and we have another 20 gallons in reserve. 40 gallons of gas for the generator. 10 cans of chef boyarde and a ton of camp cooking gas. Not much else to do now bust sit and wait. At least aI have some college football to pass the time for a bit.

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RedingtonBeachGuy
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Re: Jeanne Still Heading West [Re: Ronn]
      #32040 - Sat Sep 25 2004 06:37 PM

Ronn.. gusts here to 42 at about 2:30.. my home is on the Intracoastal and the back faces north and we are on the point so that may have something to do with the higher gusts tunneling through here. Rather calm now.

One note.. there was a wonderful rainbow in the skies about 4:00 today. Although a very pretty sight in the ENE skies from me, it sort of made me feel like it was an oblivious warning -- maybe something like 'ok Jeanne, here is where you go'.

BTW, anyone have a neighbor like mine who has a couple of propane tanks (like used for a grill) laying in the backyard with a host of other debris waiting to become missiles?? Last time I went and secured his property before a storm he called the police for trespassing, believe it or not. Uggghh..


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sthorne
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Re: Current Conditions [Re: LI Phil]
      #32041 - Sat Sep 25 2004 06:39 PM

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Sorry for the mini-rant...everyone in her path godspeed...and to anyone who didn't fully prepare...you really have my prayers because you're going to need them.




That's OK rant away, I feel the same way. It's unbelieveable that folks in fragile zones would stay after seeing what Frances did and seeing the pictures from P-cola and Hati. I believe it was Harlon Ellison who said "The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and Stupidity." Too bad we can't run cars on the latter.


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GuppieGrouper
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Re: Current Conditions [Re: LI Phil]
      #32042 - Sat Sep 25 2004 06:41 PM

Here we are windy and some light rain from time to time. My son just came from the grocery store he works at saying that people are flooding the store right now trying to buy everything in sight but waited until the last hours before the store closed to do so. I know that these are people who have waited up to 8 hours in food stamp lines this past week to get money for food. So, I imagine that waiting until the last moment to buy food was a hope that they would not have to spend this precious little money on food that under other conditions is simply a waste of good money. There is not as much apathy as it would appear, it is now just a judgement call of where do we go, what do we spend, and how long are we going to have to do this. The fun went out of hurricane season on the day Charley hit and its been no picnic since. The merchants are not even enjoying the profits because they know that this is money that will be lost to later revenue during holiday season. Some of us have already spent christmas party gift money on canned chicken, tuna and beans.

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52255225
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Re: Current Conditions [Re: LI Phil]
      #32043 - Sat Sep 25 2004 06:42 PM

Im Looking at the sat imagery and Im not seeing any type of north movement! only west. What are your eyes seeing?

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clyde w.
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Re: Current Conditions [Re: sthorne]
      #32044 - Sat Sep 25 2004 06:44 PM

Jeanne is sending some odd signals this evening that I wish one of our local mets would comment on--if they are lurking tonight.

Latest recon has pressure up 1mb, but satellite and radar presentation look the best it has all day. Also, 951mb should equate to 125-130mph winds, but Jeanne has not been able to equate the pressure to the windspeed. I don't think we are going to be lucky (115mph is nothing to scoff at), but I'm beginning to wonder if that will be as high as she goes. Any thoughts on that?


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52255225
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Re: Jeanne Still Heading West [Re: RedingtonBeachGuy]
      #32045 - Sat Sep 25 2004 06:44 PM

What a creep! ugh! glad I live in the woods.

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Re: Current Conditions [Re: sthorne]
      #32046 - Sat Sep 25 2004 06:46 PM

I agree people in the evac zones should heed the warnings.. but I don't think comparisons between Pensacola devastation and the expected impact of Jeane are valid.. the destruction of P-cola was primarily from the HUGE storm surge, not from the land-falling winds. Storm surge is a MUCH bigger threat in the GOM than on an east coast Atlantic land-falling cane. YES, take it seriously.. YES a CAT 3 will wreak its share of havoc.. but I think Pensacola/Ivan comparisons are stetching things.

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LI Phil
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Re: Current Conditions [Re: GuppieGrouper]
      #32047 - Sat Sep 25 2004 06:47 PM

Guppie,

Yeah, I'm not seeing the forest for the trees...I'm not down there, I don't know what it's like, I haven't been through it...and I'm sure a lot of you wish you were in my shoes.

The poor guy (mind is drawing a blank, but he helped out with the poll) who needed a generator...is just one glaring example. You folks have been through so much already and here mother nature has again opened the gates of hell.

I've only come to realize in the past few days that people have very little or no money due to the previous storms...I'm sure that has played a role in the decision not to evac.

I never thought it was complacency, couldn't put my finger on one main reason...and it's a combination of factors.

I just feel so bad that they could be come statistics for wont of a few simple things.

I just looked at my "numbers" below...7 hurricanes so far, 6 majors...

The season from hell just keeps giving and giving...

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Edited by LI Phil (Sat Sep 25 2004 06:49 PM)


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52255225
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Re: Current Conditions [Re: RickInRockledge]
      #32048 - Sat Sep 25 2004 06:48 PM

nah! a cat 3 is a cat 3! Still can do major damage whether it be flying debree or major storm surge. IMO.

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Frank P
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Re: Current Conditions [Re: 52255225]
      #32049 - Sat Sep 25 2004 06:48 PM

Same here excecp I'm watching Miami radar... looks pretty much due west at the moment... eye center looks to be heading right at Fort Pierce... areas just north will be devastated with the max winds... would not be surprised to see a few gusts in the 150/160 range... this is one storm I hope people are ready for.... WPB will also get pummeled with the south eye wall as it looks pretty healthy as well... provided it continues on this west track... big question is when it will turn NW.... Tampa looks to be a high priority strike zone as well if this thing doesn't make that expect right turn once inland......

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Re: Jeanne Still Heading West [Re: RedingtonBeachGuy]
      #32050 - Sat Sep 25 2004 06:48 PM

Yeah - we have several neighbors who have left child's toys outside. Nothing like a Big Wheel through the front window to make you realize what a mistake that could be.

If he calls the cops, call them first - leaving those things outside can be construed as criminal neglect.


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lilyv
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Re: Current Conditions [Re: sthorne]
      #32051 - Sat Sep 25 2004 06:49 PM

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It's unbelieveable that folks in fragile zones would stay after seeing what Frances did and seeing the pictures from P-cola and Hati. I believe it was Harlon Ellison who said "The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and Stupidity." Too bad we can't run cars on the latter.




Funny, but true. All kidding aside, I agree hurricanes aren't anything to play around with. Scanning the Pensacola paper is an eye-opener.
http://www.pensacolanewsjournal.com/


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Re: Jeanne track images [Re: MikeC]
      #32052 - Sat Sep 25 2004 06:51 PM

These are based on NHC Advisory 49 forecast coordinates. All the disclaimers that need to be said, have been said.

Be safe everyone.



Close up Path (600x600)
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