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FlaMommy
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Re: td 3 structure, the playa [Re: Lysis]
      #37913 - Mon Jul 04 2005 06:34 PM

wow thats pretty impressive....and lysis thanks for the heads up...im in tampa....so anything to do with the west part of florida is good heads up....thanks....

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Re: td 3 structure, the playa [Re: Lysis]
      #37914 - Mon Jul 04 2005 06:37 PM

If that is not a camera trick or distortion of lens, everyone will feel some of what ever that is. Also it could tighten up but if it did, it would be no fun for whoever it aimed at.
Lets hope it does not get its act together anybetter than now.

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Re: td 3 structure, the playa [Re: GuppieGrouper]
      #37915 - Mon Jul 04 2005 06:43 PM

I can say with as much certainty as you can in this business that this isn't hitting Florida, Flamommy. That was just a size comparison, which I really didn't need to make anyway.

Edited by Lysis (Mon Jul 04 2005 06:47 PM)


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Re: td 3 structure, the playa [Re: GuppieGrouper]
      #37916 - Mon Jul 04 2005 06:49 PM

Is it following the projected path? It looks to me like it's pretty far E of where projected, maybe because it reformed (I am just guessing, based on what others posted earlier today.) I know the path is based on the actual center of low pressure, not the visuals, so I gues there's really no telling right now. I'm sure tonight's models and the recon data will be eagerly awaited. Future TD#4 looks pretty big. I was thinking it could be on the order of Francis's size, if it really gets going.

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Re: td 3 structure, the playa [Re: Gainesville, FL]
      #37917 - Mon Jul 04 2005 07:01 PM

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/fwd/productviewnation.php?pil=TAEAFDTAE&version=0

It is long so I just put the link up. Very interesting talk.

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Re: td 3 structure, the playa [Re: Storm Cooper]
      #37918 - Mon Jul 04 2005 07:10 PM

Storm Cooper, the varying level of interest with these things across the board amazes me. For example, the Southern Louisiana forecast for Wednesday night simply says “windy”. Indeed.

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Re: td 3 structure, the playa [Re: Lysis]
      #37920 - Mon Jul 04 2005 07:17 PM

Just wait. And HF, the models have run on the soon to be "dennis"

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Re: td 3 structure, the playa [Re: Lysis]
      #37921 - Mon Jul 04 2005 07:21 PM

I noted a July 5, 2005. Is this an error? or did I sleep through July 4?

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trouble [Re: GuppieGrouper]
      #37922 - Mon Jul 04 2005 07:30 PM

some of the surface obs are reporting westerly winds on the islands off the north coast of venezuela. a low is closing off. NHC might drag it's feet on classifying it, but as of this afternoon it's developing. highest winds i've seen are easterly at about 20kt in the southern windward islands.
td 3 is mostly offshore.. and still has an elongated center. it looks like the center is along the north coast of the yucatan. right now it isn't in a position to rapidly organize, and i'll hold off on saying more until recon samples the area.
gonna be one hell of a week, looks like.
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Re: td 3 structure, the playa [Re: Storm Cooper]
      #37923 - Mon Jul 04 2005 07:31 PM

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Just wait. And HF, the models have run on the soon to be "dennis"




I am not liking what I see with these model runs. I'm eerily reminded of Charley's path.

Any chance the NHC will send out recon to this system anytime soon?


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Re: td 3 structure, the playa [Re: MissBecky]
      #37924 - Mon Jul 04 2005 07:38 PM

Is it just me or is the soon to be TD 4 looking weaker?

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Re: td 3 structure, the playa [Re: MissBecky]
      #37925 - Mon Jul 04 2005 07:40 PM

I am sticking to my #37754 - Sat Jul 02 2005 06:32 AM post for landfall. While jet is moving down and across, I do see TD#3 moving more E then current models and a minimal CAT1. Look for the models to begin changing as time goes on. As far as another Charley w/ TD#3, I don't think so. Could be wrong of course. Although the jet is moving across and down out of the Rockies, it is not a strong jet.

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Re: td 3 structure, the playa [Re: Doombot!]
      #37926 - Mon Jul 04 2005 07:49 PM

I'd say it looks like it is solidifying. NHC may not classify it at 5pm EST, but unless it just suddenly weakens, I expect it will be a TD by 11pm. IMO.

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Re: td 3 structure, the playa [Re: Tazmanian93]
      #37927 - Mon Jul 04 2005 07:50 PM

The latest model run graphics of the NHC model suite are showing the reformation and possible paths from that location.

http://www.sfwmd.gov/org/omd/ops/weather/plots/storm_03.gif


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Re: td 3 structure, the playa [Re: dem05]
      #37928 - Mon Jul 04 2005 07:52 PM

TD 3 should be Cindi on the next advisory according to the recon at the last fix.

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Re: td 3 structure, the playa [Re: Hurricane Fredrick 1979]
      #37929 - Mon Jul 04 2005 08:24 PM

TD 3, I'll go with 23/88 and initial motion slightly W of due N.

Playa (td 4 because it is)...12/61 just N of due W

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No Intensity Change [Re: doug]
      #37931 - Mon Jul 04 2005 08:40 PM

Still TD 3 at 5.....

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T.D 3 becoming Cindy... [Re: doug]
      #37932 - Mon Jul 04 2005 08:46 PM

Should be Cindy in an half an hour, though the structure remains oblique in a moderately sheared enviornment. The steering regime is not complicated, with a trof lifting out over Mexico and a ridge building over Florida, and it seems like the trof has has had a more prominent effect on it, and subsquently the track will be shifted eastward. Most models support a storm landfalling in the vicicinty of the LA, with still some hitting Texas. The track seems to be a combonation of Bill and Claudette wtih Cindy treking in the middle. Intensity is tricky, based on the SHIPS and GFDL looks like a strong TS, but given the potential energy of 30 C water and given the fact that the trof is lifting out, all leads to believe that it could become a minor (less then CAT 3) hurricane at landfall. Details need to be worked out, but we still got time...

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Re: No Intensity Change [Re: wxman007]
      #37933 - Mon Jul 04 2005 08:48 PM

Speaking of the devil, looks I blew that part of my forecast.

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Re: No Intensity Change [Re: Keith234]
      #37935 - Mon Jul 04 2005 09:11 PM

TD3 went from 30-35mph looks to be developing IMO and think landfall maybe a strong TS to minimal cane from NO to MS/AL line.If it slows down then further E I would suspect.The cloud struture shows a more Northerly movement as I see it.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/gmex-vis-loop.html

Edited by javlin (Mon Jul 04 2005 09:14 PM)


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