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Big Red Machine
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Re: Future Systems *Killed -- Sent to Graveyard* [Re: OcalaKT]
      #53529 - Fri Sep 02 2005 01:08 PM

This post was sent to the Hurricane Graveyard

Edited by Big Red Machine (Fri Sep 02 2005 01:09 PM)


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NewWatcher
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Re: Future Systems [Re: Big Red Machine]
      #53531 - Fri Sep 02 2005 01:15 PM

Keeping an eye or two on 92L also and I hope it stays the way it is....
Having said that, there is a lot to be learned in every facet from Katrina.
Preparedness, the lack thereof, how these things work, etc. All usefull information we need (as a nation) to take a look at.
Glad to see Lee and Maria are gonna stir fish instead of coastline.


Also, I couldnt be any happier to hear about Danny!!!!!!!!!!!!


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cjgsav
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Re: Future Systems *Killed -- Sent to Graveyard* [Re: susieq]
      #53532 - Fri Sep 02 2005 01:26 PM

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susieq
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Re: Future Systems [Re: cjgsav]
      #53534 - Fri Sep 02 2005 01:42 PM

I'm just his daughter!

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Beaumont, TX
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Re: Future Systems [Re: susieq]
      #53542 - Fri Sep 02 2005 02:04 PM

So now the thinking is 92L may dissipate? Because if it doesn't it is at such low latitude it could head into the Carribean.
What is causing the dissipation of the system?


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kapSt.Cloud
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Re: Future Systems *Killed -- Sent to Graveyard* *DELETED* [Re: cjgsav]
      #53543 - Fri Sep 02 2005 02:10 PM

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Takingforever
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Re: Future Systems [Re: kapSt.Cloud]
      #53545 - Fri Sep 02 2005 02:17 PM

Err..They are all gone CJG. Hell till you posted, I didn't even know what those post where about..thanks tho.

Anywho, all I wish is that someone would stop smirking and look like there a joke we don't know going on between him and himself.

So 92 is down, but as we should know till it's truly gone, you not think Nate will show up Monday.


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MikeCAdministrator
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Re: Future Systems [Re: Big Red Machine]
      #53560 - Fri Sep 02 2005 02:54 PM

Folks please read the forum rules about politics. Discuss weather here and news, but please keep political overtones out. Regardless of where you are politically. This site is not flhurriblame.com. Right now there is a failure on all levels in all branches and parties of government, and the energy should not be on finding out whom to blame but on fixing the problem.





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Brad in Miami
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Re: Future Systems [Re: MikeC]
      #53562 - Fri Sep 02 2005 03:02 PM

Continued thoughts and well-wishes to all affected by Katrina.

For those who care, regarding the Atlantic/Caribbean features HF and Clark have discussed, here is a portion of this afternoon's discussion from the Miami NWS office:

GLOBAL MODELS...ESPECIALLY INCLUDING THE GFS AND NOGAPS
SOLUTIONS...DEEPEN THE WEAK SURFACE LOW PRESENTLY ANALYZED NEAR
30N/77W EARLY NEXT WEEK. OTHERS SUCH AS THE ECMWF AND CMC ARE LESS
ROBUST WITH LOW...HOWEVER THEY STILL INDICATE ELONGATED EAST-WEST
ORIENTED SURFACE TROUGH IN ROUGHLY THE SAME AREA. INITIALLY THIS
LOW WILL SERVE TO BRING DRIER AND COOLER AIR INTO SOUTH FLORIDA
LATE THIS WEEKEND (PERHAPS TEMPS AND DEWPOINTS 3-4 DEGREES
COOLER). THE EFFECT ON LATER PERIODS OF THE FORECAST IS MORE
UNCERTAIN...WITH RAIN CHANCES POSSIBLY INCREASING BY MID-WEEK
SHOULD THIS SYSTEM MOVE CLOSER TO US.


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tpratch
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Re: Future Systems [Re: MikeC]
      #53563 - Fri Sep 02 2005 03:02 PM

We're already up to M with the peak weeks away. I know Dr. Gray stood by his numbers, but is there anything in the weather patterns to suggest a sudden dropoff from the record pace we've seen so far?

*EDIT Yeah, I meant just over a week, but for some reason that came out as "weeks". OOPS

Also, if you really want to discuss politics, I'd recommend going to Fark.com. Accounts are free, and every "Katrina Aftermath" thread there seems to be rife with politics. It might help you to appreciate the politic-free setting being established here as well

Cheers.

Edited by tpratch (Fri Sep 02 2005 03:10 PM)


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Brad in Miami
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Re: Future Systems [Re: tpratch]
      #53564 - Fri Sep 02 2005 03:06 PM

tpratch:

The peak isn't weeks away. Historically, the season's peak is around September 10 - only 8 days away - with a smaller, second peak around Oct. 15. The NHC has a graphic regarding this at http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastprofile.shtml

And unfortunately, nothing suggests a "sudden dropoff."


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MikeCAdministrator
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Re: Future Systems [Re: tpratch]
      #53565 - Fri Sep 02 2005 03:16 PM

Oddly enough, that "Downtown New Orleans" blog from the Directnic center was a serious contender for me moving the flhurricane servers, actually still is. The hosting company there, Zipa, was what I was aiming for. I might still after things calm down, they've been doing really well so far, even if they had to take down a few sites, like SA, for it.

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Steve H1
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Re: Future Systems [Re: Brad in Miami]
      #53566 - Fri Sep 02 2005 03:23 PM

Although things are rather quiet in the tropics from a "threat" perspective. The only area that may be of concern is the area east of Florida. The 12Z models (GFS/NOGAPS & particularly the UKMET) are showing development just off the east coast of Florida, with the UKMET bullish on a system east of Miami then paralleling the east coast of Florida while strengthening, but staying off shore. The GFS and NOGAPS show similar solution, albeit weaker. 92L seems to be fading but goes on the watch list, and Ex-Lee and Maria want to run off to the high seas together. So the main area worth watching is going to be near the Bahamas late weekend and we should watch model trends on this one. Cheers!!

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tpratch
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Re: Future Systems [Re: MikeC]
      #53567 - Fri Sep 02 2005 03:28 PM

Yeah, better to take down SA and upset a few goons* than to not be able to provide the service they are now. It's been a great source of information.


*Goons in this case is not derrogatory. SA = SomethingAwful.com, their members call themselves goons. I presumed Mike knew since he called them SA - this note is for others.

**As much as having to switch gears to move to a new forum to post may calm someone down, at least it's a place to vent

***Apologies for having fun breaking in that forum. Seeing it empty when I came across it just filled me with the need to purge some vitriol.

Edited by tpratch (Fri Sep 02 2005 04:41 PM)


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MikeCAdministrator
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Re: Future Systems [Re: tpratch]
      #53568 - Fri Sep 02 2005 04:02 PM

Ok, here it goes, I know everyone is upset about the situation. I've created a forum for these.

As the discription reads

People are upset, confused, angry, about Katrina, the response. A series of personal disasters amongst the larger disaster is beginning. Here's a place we'll allow rants, raves, etc. This forum shouldn't be read by anyone.

The link is

http://flhurricane.com/cyclone/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=flhurriflame


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ralphfl
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Re: Future Systems [Re: MikeC]
      #53574 - Fri Sep 02 2005 04:21 PM

Quote:

Ok, here it goes, I know everyone is upset about the situation. I've created a forum for these.

As the discription reads

People are upset, confused, angry, about Katrina, the response. A series of personal disasters amongst the larger disaster is beginning. Here's a place we'll allow rants, raves, etc. This forum shouldn't be read by anyone.

The link is

http://flhurricane.com/cyclone/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=flhurriflame





Thank you! this means i can read this forum again .Its 1 thing to argue about canes as at least that is what we are here about is canes but this other stuff i can read on millions of sites like Aol etc.

So what happened to 92l? looks like they think its nomore well lets hope we can get past the holiday without anything coming to the U.S.

Thanks to everyone who helps with these great url's to plots and models has helped me a lot this season so thank you again.


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Takingforever
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Dead topic till The Nate [Re: ralphfl]
      #53583 - Fri Sep 02 2005 05:06 PM

this means i can read this forum again...

Also means posting will stop here for hours till The Nate shows up.

Edited by Takingforever (Fri Sep 02 2005 05:08 PM)


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Brad in Miami
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Trough/Bahamas [Re: Takingforever]
      #53591 - Fri Sep 02 2005 05:36 PM

I realize I'm essentially regurgitating info available on the front page, so please feel free to delete this if it is inappropriate. However, I'm paying more and more attention to the potential for development near the Bahamas or elsewhere along the trough sometime next week - the potential for a favorable pattern for development certainly exists - and so I figured I'd post the portions of the other Florida east coast NWS discussions from this afternoon regarding this potential:

From Jacksonville:
LONG TERM...12Z GFS MORE AGGRESSIVE IN DEVELOPING QUASI STATIONARY
CLOSED SFC LOW DEVELOPING OVER THE BAHAMAS. 06Z GFS AND OTHER
GUIDANCE NOT NEARLY SO AGGRESSIVE SO HAVE DISCOUNTED THIS FEATURE FOR
NOW.

From Melbourne:
MON/FRI...
BROAD TROFING OVER THE WRN ATLC WILL PREVAIL THROUGH MUCH OF NEXT
WEEK AS A SERIES OF WEAK TROPICAL DISTURBANCES WORK THEIR WAY AROUND
THE WESTERN PERIPHERY OF THE ATLC RIDGE. THE CONTINENTAL RIDGE OVER
THE PLAINS/MIDWEST WILL GRADUALLY MOVE OFF THE MID ATLC/NEW ENGLAND
COAST BY TUE AFTN. AS THE RIDGE BEGINS TO MOVE OFFSHORE...GFS
DEVELOPS A CLOSED SURFACE LOW JUST N OF THE BAHAMAS...WHICH THEN
RETROGRADES BACK TOWARD THE NE FL COAST ON WED. WOULD PREFER TO SEE
THIS LOW BEGIN TO FORM FIRST BEFORE BUYING INTO THE SOLUTION


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GuppieGrouper
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Re: Trough/Bahamas [Re: Brad in Miami]
      #53595 - Fri Sep 02 2005 06:02 PM

I just clicked on the interactive GOES satellite and the area over the Bahamas seems to have gathered more convection during the afternoon. It ominously enlarging. I am hoping this is the heating of the day clouds and there is no circulation at any level.

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LadyStorm
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Re:Before "During and After pics from Katrina [Re: MikeC]
      #53603 - Fri Sep 02 2005 07:08 PM

Some amazing and sobering stuff:

http://www.sky-chaser.com/kat05.htm

http://www.stormchaservideo.com/Hurricane_Katrina/


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