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ftlaudbob
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Re: Wilma Becomes Category 4 Hurricane [Re: danielw]
      #59119 - Wed Oct 19 2005 06:25 AM

I am a tough guy,but this is scaring the hell out of me.

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Re: Wilma Becomes Category 4 Hurricane [Re: danielw]
      #59120 - Wed Oct 19 2005 06:26 AM

i am actually trying to answer that same question right now.... off do do some quick research..... anyone see any recon reports lately? last i have is obs 11.... should have new one now... been 30mins now

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Re: Wilma Becomes Category 4 Hurricane [Re: danielw]
      #59121 - Wed Oct 19 2005 06:29 AM

You can also see the white on the NHC link to the wv image, right up to the 0445Z. Something seems to have happened quickly right after that because the 05515Z looks quite different. I think the tightly wound spring just started to unravel.

Roller coaster ride is not over yet. Remember we still have the warm waters of tomorrow and Thursday to travel through. She can easliy ramp up again tomorrow night (another sleepless night).

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Re: Wilma Becomes Category 4 Hurricane [Re: ftlaudbob]
      #59122 - Wed Oct 19 2005 06:30 AM

Try this link. There isn't anything showing right now and I'm not seeing anything on the NWS products ...yet.

http://www.co.miami-dade.fl.us/oem/


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Re: Wilma Becomes Category 4 Hurricane [Re: Storm Hunter]
      #59123 - Wed Oct 19 2005 06:32 AM

Should this storm pull the water out of the inter coastal?,Because it is coming from the west.Or will the wrap around effect bring a storm surge here.It is now a question of life and death,given my location.

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Re: Wilma Becomes Category 4 Hurricane [Re: ftlaudbob]
      #59124 - Wed Oct 19 2005 06:32 AM

I woke up to TWC just before 2am and thought I was going to throw up. I am in Naples, technically inland Collier County, between North Naples and Immokalee. Where do you even think about going? I've also got 2 small dogs, one just a little too big to carry on a plane. Gotta head into work now where I will encounter others with the same shellshocked looks on their faces.

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Re: Wilma Becomes Category FIVE [Re: KC]
      #59125 - Wed Oct 19 2005 06:34 AM

Wilma is now a Five according to the NHC.

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Re: Wilma Becomes Category FIVE [Re: Lake Toho - Kissimmee]
      #59126 - Wed Oct 19 2005 06:34 AM

HURRICANE Wilma TROPICAL CYCLONE UPDATE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
230 AM EDT WED OCT 19 2005
DATA FROM A RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT HURRICANE Wilma
HAS BECOME AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE ON THE
SAFFIR-SIMPSON HURRICANE SCALE. THE RECONNAISSANCE PLANE MEASURED
175 MPH WINDS AND ESTIMATED A MINIMUM PRESSURE OF 892 MB. THIS IS
THE LOWEST PRESSURE OBSERVED IN 2005 AND IS EQUIVALENT TO THE
MINIMUM PRESSURE OF THE 1935 LABOR DAY HURRICANE IN THE FLORIDA
KEYS.

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Re: Wilma Becomes Category 4 Hurricane [Re: Storm Hunter]
      #59127 - Wed Oct 19 2005 06:37 AM

This is the latest that I have there may be one newer.

URNT12 KNHC 190446
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 19/04:32:40Z
B. 16 DEG 52 MIN N
081 DEG 56 MIN W
C. 850 MB 516 M
D. NA KT
E. NA DEG NM
F. 116 DEG 162 KT
G. 15 DEG 003 NM
H. EXTRAP 901 MB
I. 17 C/ 1537 M
J. 26 C/ 1557 M
K. 25 C/ NA
L. CLOSED WALL
M. C4
N. 12345/ 8
O. 0.02 / 1 NM
P. AF308 0724A Wilma OB 07
MAX FL WIND 162 KT NE QUAD 04:31:30 Z
SLP EXTRAP FROM 850 MB


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Re: Wilma Becomes Category FIVE [Re: Lake Toho - Kissimmee]
      #59128 - Wed Oct 19 2005 06:38 AM

Guys,Really should I leave?This is getting nuts.What impact will this have on my area,given everything keeps going this way?

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Re: Wilma Becomes Category FIVE [Re: ftlaudbob]
      #59129 - Wed Oct 19 2005 06:39 AM

Bob, chill out. You're going to give yourself a heart attack before morning at this rate.

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Re: Wilma Becomes Category FIVE [Re: Goosus]
      #59130 - Wed Oct 19 2005 06:41 AM

I know,you are right.Just trying to make plans.Need input.

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Re: Wilma Becomes Category FIVE [Re: ftlaudbob]
      #59131 - Wed Oct 19 2005 06:43 AM

Bob your scared but excited the same time...... Your glad that you can get hit but nervous of the strength of it... Just get some sleep, next thing you know, it will pass well west of ya and you will get rain bands....For now,,we wont know exact landfall until Friday morning probably and that is within a 100mile cone,.,right now its about 500 mile swath..KeyWest-Pasco County.

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Re: Wilma Becomes Category 4 Hurricane [Re: ftlaudbob]
      #59132 - Wed Oct 19 2005 06:43 AM

Think it's good to look at your options, however, we are still three or more days from landfall. The forecast path could change significantly. I can tell you the whole city of Miami or Ft Lauderdale will not be asked to evacuate. I lived through Andrew down there and frankly people just hunkered down. Katrina was the first storm where I saw large groups of people evacuate, but for good cause. FTL and MIA do not have the same concerns. Now if you were in Naples on up through Tampa I would be very concerned and move inland, but FTL should be fine. Follow the directions of the EOC. If asked to evacuate then do it. However, your only option is to go north, and frankly the path of the hurricane has yet to be set in stone.

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Re: Wilma Becomes Category 4 Hurricane [Re: Hurricane Fredrick 1979]
      #59133 - Wed Oct 19 2005 06:46 AM

That is the latest I saw also

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Re: Wilma Becomes Category 4 Hurricane [Re: Lake Toho - Kissimmee]
      #59134 - Wed Oct 19 2005 06:47 AM

Well anyone in a high rise building on Floridas east coast I would defidently leave,,,,even if you only expect 100mph winds,,,if your about 5 floors up or more,,, you will lose friction of the land to stop any wind as you are far enough above ground to get unimpeaded wind.......

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Re: Wilma Becomes Category FIVE [Re: Lake Toho - Kissimmee]
      #59135 - Wed Oct 19 2005 06:49 AM

892?

Cloud tops continue to cool now on wv image, and convection to spread out.

Does this mean that the windfield gradients are spreading out from the center to a more normal dist?

I loved the earlier characterization of the windfield as a tiny cat 5 eyewall sitting in the middle of a TS.

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Re: Wilma Becomes Category 4 Hurricane [Re: Lake Toho - Kissimmee]
      #59136 - Wed Oct 19 2005 06:49 AM

Driving home from work tonight,I got very heavy rain.This system is very far away ,and the locals were saying that if we are getting this now.What about when it gets closer?There is not alot of land between Napals and me,and if it is moving fast how much can it weaken.Sorry folks,just getting nervous looking at this monster.

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Re: Super Hurricanes [Re: ftlaudbob]
      #59137 - Wed Oct 19 2005 06:50 AM

After hearing about Typhoon Tip a little earlier, I found this page and graphic.

Typhoon Tip - 1979

This storm almost boggles the imagination. How can a single low pressure area drag around a circulation area that large? And tropical force storms winds 675 miles from the center? How did they get this information and verify it? It almost seems like a tall tale.

I also stumbled upon this chart (which is somewhat dated) that shows the most powerful storms on record (not including this year).

Intensity Table

My question is, without getting too technical, why are the 7 most powerful tropical cyclones all Pacific Ocean events? Is there some unique mechanism that allows storms to reach such freakish intensity in the Pacific vs. the Atlantic?

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Re: Wilma Becomes Category FIVE [Re: ftlaudbob]
      #59138 - Wed Oct 19 2005 06:51 AM

just took a look at latest sat pic.... don't think she is done.... 890mb... was my number two days agao... going to throw that out the window... think she will break the lowest (gilbert 888).....880's not out of the question now... i would expect that the 892mb was an estimate.... pretty sure there was a surface wind, just like in Rita... that may have not got the best reading..... wilima has a much tighter core, therfore i would expect some strong surface winds in the center... more that 30mph..... i wounder what the GPS dropsonde reported near the surface?

eye appears to be cleaning up some in sats.... and she is still surrounded by some VERY COLD cloud tops.... 80mbs in less than 12hrs..... wonder when the winds catch all the way up... how high will they get.... there coming around now... 170mph.... gust well above 200mph now!!!

heard report eye is 2nm wide.... hmmmm.... off to check!

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