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Bloodstar
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Can Epsilon Be Far Behind? [Re: Random Chaos]
      #64055 - Tue Nov 29 2005 04:01 AM

96L is looking a little more impressive this morning with thunderstorm tops in the -50 - 60 range near the center of circulation. T numbers are ST1.5 currently. The circulation center seems to be on the WSW edge of the Thunderstorm activity. (with a trailing set of storms due south). If I had to hazard a guess I would say the system is taking on the appearance of a small tropical system in a larger Subtropical System. The next 12 hours should be very interesting for the future of the potential storm.

Will the convection increase, or will it fall apart, leaving the system a subtropical mess?

-Mark

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Random Chaos
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Epsilon Forms! [Re: Bloodstar]
      #64057 - Tue Nov 29 2005 09:53 AM

Tropical Storm Epsilon has formed!

NHC now lists it as formed, but no discussion up yet.

WOW.


NHC Advisory:
Quote:

TROPICAL STORM EPSILON ADVISORY NUMBER 1
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 AM AST TUE NOV 29 2005

...TROPICAL STORM EPSILON...THE 28TH NAMED STORM OF THE 2005
ATLANTIC SEASON...FORMS OVER THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC OCEAN...

AT 11 AM AST...1500Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM EPSILON WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 31.6 NORTH... LONGITUDE 50.4 WEST OR ABOUT
845 MILES...1360 KM...EAST OF BERMUDA AND ABOUT 1395 MILES...2245
KM... WEST OF THE AZORES ISLANDS.

EPSILON IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 8 MPH...13 KM/HR...AND THIS
GENERAL MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 45 MPH... 75 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. SOME STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 200 MILES...325 KM
FROM THE CENTER... ESPECIALLY TO THE NORTH AND WEST OF THE CENTER.

THE ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 993 MB...29.32 INCHES.

*snip*




Edited by Random Chaos (Tue Nov 29 2005 10:08 AM)


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ftlaudbob
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TS Epsilon [Re: Random Chaos]
      #64058 - Tue Nov 29 2005 10:12 AM

This is truly amazing,beyond words.It's like a movie that people wouldn't see because it would be unrealalistic.Scary to think what the years ahead will bring.I think in the next few years many will move away from the coast.Throw the books out!!!!

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Gloria,Bob,Katrina,Wilma and a bunch of tropical storms.


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Random Chaos
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Re: TS Epsilon [Re: ftlaudbob]
      #64059 - Tue Nov 29 2005 10:18 AM

NHC Discussion is up:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCDAT4+shtml/DDHHMM.shtml


Anyone who's interested in seeing where all our systems have been this year:
http://www.solar.ifa.hawaii.edu/Tropical/GifArchive/atl2005.gif

Edited by Random Chaos (Tue Nov 29 2005 10:21 AM)


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Lee-Delray
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Re: TS Epsilon [Re: ftlaudbob]
      #64060 - Tue Nov 29 2005 10:20 AM

WHat happens if we run ouit of Greek letters.

Again, for all those who are paranoid; Epsilon is not forcast to hit the USA.

Will it never end? Tropical Storm Epsilon forms in central Atlantic

Associated Press
Posted November 29 2005, 10:16 AM EST


MIAMI -- Tropical Storm Epsilon formed Tuesday in the central Atlantic, but it only posed a threat to shipping, forecasters said.

The 26th named storm of the busiest hurricane season on record was expected to be absorbed by other weather systems and shouldn't affect land, said Jennifer Pralgo, a meteorologist at the National Hurricane Center in Miami.

At 10 a.m. EST, Epsilon had top sustained winds of about 45 mph. It was centered about 845 miles east of Bermuda and about 1,395 miles west of the Azores Islands. It was moving west near 8 mph.



Edited by Lee-Delray (Tue Nov 29 2005 10:22 AM)


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Margie
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Re: TS Epsilon [Re: Random Chaos]
      #64065 - Tue Nov 29 2005 10:48 AM

Well this one looks a lot better than Delta when it was classified. What I don't understand though is why it is not designated subtropical rather than tropical...as it fits the definition, with some elements of tropical systems (some banding convection close to the center, a little bit of outflow...as noted by the cirrus transverse banding to the west, a circular LLC), clearly it is not a completely tropical system. Even the NHC discussion (Stewart! happy dance) says:

ALTHOUGH A BANDING EYE-LIKE FEATURE DURING THE PAST COUPLE OF HOURS... THE LOW-LEVEL PRESSURE AND WIND FIELDS APPEAR TO [BE] MORE REPRESENTATIVE OF SLOW DEVELOPING SUBTROPICAL CYCLONES.

Sorry to continue to be confused about this. Does the NHC have a designation such that they could say "Subtropical Storm Epsilon," or do they have to designate it as TS and note that it is subtropical in the discussions? Is that what they are doing?

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