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TS Debby Heads East Toward Cedar Key, Florida
      #92880 - Sun Jun 24 2012 04:49 PM

Update - Tuesday, June 26th 6PM EDT
Debby made an official landfall on Steinhatchee this afternoon.

Debby is moving a little bit faster to the east-northeast, at roughly 6 MPH, and is now expected to exit the state to the east by Thursday morning. She is a minimal tropical cyclone, but Debby continues to fire deep to very deep convection in the northeast quadrant, and given its still slow movement, this will result in some more flooding rains as the low level center crosses the state. The persistent, heavy rains will now primarily occur over northeast Florida, as the Panhandle finally begins to dry out and recover.
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Update - Tuesday, June 26th, Noon EDT
TS Debby was located about 65 miles west of Cedar Key at Noon, Tuesday, and was moving slowly to the east. Maximum sustained winds have decreased to 40mph so Debby is now a minimal Tropical Storm. Landfall is likely Wednesday morning but no increase in intensity is expected and Debby should decrease to Tropical Depression strength on Wednesday as the cyclone crosses the Florida peninsula and moves into the Atlantic Thursday morning. If it survives the crossing, Debby could regain Tropical Storm strength later on Thursday into Friday as the system moves east northeast and northeast into the Atlantic. Periods of heavy rain can still be expected in northeast Florida and southeast Georgia. Feeder bands with brief rain squalls and gusty winds continue to redevelop over the Florida peninsula.
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6:30PM Update 25 June 2012
Debby continues slowly advancing NNE to NE, and as of 6PM Monday, was just barely offshore, with its primary center likely in the vicinity of 29.4N 85W.

While not ideally organized as a tropical cyclone, as Debby is still ingesting a great deal of dry air from the north and west, with some shear actually back on the increase, the storm is still creating havoc with inland flooding, minor surge, isolated damaging wind gusts and tornadoes the primary ongoing threats.

Debby's most notable weather so far could be the very heavy band of thunderstorms which has persisted throughout the day along her topside, around Apalachicola, and this feature could last for many more hours still, potentially even a few more days if Debby does not pull east soon enough, as an northeast-southwest oriented boundary with cooler northeast winds collides with the warmer, tropical southerly winds. Storm rainfall totals in this region are already running as high as 15" - 20".

It is now Monday, and assuming the latest forecast is correct, Debby may not even clear Florida's east coast until Thursday or Friday, generating regions of flooding tropical showers and thunderstorms along the way. However, it is worth stressing that confidence is still not high, despite that more model support exists for the track east across the state.

Should the forecast of a slow trip across north Florida verify, steering currents could become very weak once again around the upcoming weekend, and a few of the better models take the cyclone, or what is left of her, on another agonizingly slow trip - this time up the Gulf Stream. If that verifies, and looking at the set up, it very well might, Debby could become much stronger while along the east coast. Model discussions and forecast speculation can be found (and should be discussed) in the Forecast Lounge.
Ciel

11:20 AM Update 25 June 2012
Tropical Storm Debby's official forecast track has shifted again, then time taking it across the Florida Peninsula by the end of the week.

Tropical Storm Warnings now extend from Destin to Englewood, warnings west of Destin were discontinued.

Debby is much weaker this morning, with most of the convection around the center gone, although some convection has fired closer to the center in the last few hours.
If Debby continues to weaken it may dissipate, but as of now it is forecast to cross the peninsula, bringing band of rain over the next few days.

It is currently forecast to weaken to a depression and slowly move across the peninsula and exit on Saturday, after which, if the storm is still intact, it has another chance to regain strength.

After that is speculation, but it could go northeast, out to sea, or continue to hang around offshore.

Since convection has waned, in Central/Western Florida rain will likely be much more off and on than yesterday.

6:30 AM Update 25 June 2012
Debby has lost most of its core convection overnight and remains much weaker than yesterday, but is caught between two anticyclones and will likely remain in put for a few days.

On water vapor and IR satellite, Debby is not looking very healthy, and may eventually just fall apart, but it remains over water and has enough circulation to stay alive at least a few more days pumping moisture from the south and streaming it over west/central Florida, and the Panhandle for a few days.

Original Update
Tropical Storm Debby's 5PM update has come, and the official forecast track has shifted well east, now land falling somewhere in the Panhandle of Florida... around Thursday..

It may be a bit before that, but the general idea is that Debby will sit and spin for a few days in the Gulf, bringing rain and surge to the Northeastern Gulf.

Because of the shift, all the warnings in Louisiana have been cancelled, and tropical storm watches have been extended southward on Florida's west coast south to Englewood (just north of Ft. Myers).

The forecast keeps it out in the Gulf for a while, so it still could change. The entire Gulf needs to monitor it. But the pounding rain and high surge/surf along the West Coast will continue potentially for a few days. If anything were to change, it would likely be a shortening of the time it spends in the Gulf.

long term recording of the NASA color gulf sat for Debby:
http://flhurricane.com/cyclone/animator.php?130

or http://flhurricane.com/cyclone/imageanimator.php?130 (if older browsers)

Florida Radar Recording of Debby Here, or Here

Power outage map for Florida (Progress Energy)

Florida Emergency Management

Jacksonville, FL Area Media:

Jacksonville.com The Florida Times-Union

News 4 Jacksonville

First Coast News TV

WAWS Fox 30 TV

Northeast Florida Power Outage Maps:

Power Outage Maps for Jacksonville Area

FPL Power Outage Map

Clay Electric Power Outage Map
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Bay News 9

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HCW Live Stream Beach Cam (West end of Gulf Shores, AL)
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Northeast Gulf Links Southeast Composite Radar Loop (Latest Static)

Tampa Bay, FL Radar Long Range Radar Loop ( Latest Static)

Key West, FL Radar Long Range Radar Loop ( Latest Static)

Mobile, AL Radar Long Range Radar Loop ( Latest Static)

Tallahassee FL Radar Long Range Radar Loop ( Latest Static)

Northwest Florida Radar Long Range Radar Loop ( Latest Static)

Gulf of Mexico Satellite Imagery

SFWMD Full Florida Radar (Includes east LA, MS,AL) Loop with Storm Track

Area Forecast Discussions: Mississippi/Alabama/Pensacola - Panhandle/Tallahassee - Tampa/West Central Florida
East Florida Links Southeast Composite Radar Loop (Latest Static) South to North:

Key West, FL Radar Long Range Radar Loop ( Latest Static)

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Caribbean/South East Coast Satellite Imagery


SFWMD Radar Loop of South Florida with storm Track


SFWMD Full Florida Radar Loop with Storm Track


Area Forecast Discussions: FLorida Keys - Miami/South Florida - Melbourne/East Central Florida - Jacksonville/Northeast Florida -

Debby Event Related Links
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Animated Skeetobite Model Plot of Debby
SFWMD Model Plot (Animated Model Plot) SFWMD Hurricane Page (More Tracking Information)
Clark Evans Track Model Plot of Debby (Animated!)
Clark Evans Intensity Model Plot of Debby (Animated!)
Clark Evans Top 10 Analog Storms for Debby
More model runs on from RAL/Jonathan Vigh's page
NRL Info on Debby -- RAMMB Info

Floater Satellite Images: Visible (Loop), IR (Loop), WV (Loop), Dvorak (Loop), AVN (Loop), RGB (Loop), Rainbow (Loop), Funktop (Loop), RB Top Loop)


Edited by cieldumort (Tue Jun 26 2012 06:09 PM)


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Re: Debby to Sit and Spin off the Florida Panhandle [Re: MikeC]
      #92881 - Sun Jun 24 2012 05:45 PM

Your discussion here highlights the problem of forecasting Debby's forward speed and long term track.

The idea and probability of her sitting in the Gulf and continuing to pump moisture over an area that is already experiencing flooding, beach erosion, damage from twisters is a bigger problem than how strong she will be.

For once Intensity and Track are not as important as Forward Speed.

A woman has already died in a "storm related" death in Lake Placid from a Twister. That number could climb if she sticks around as long as some believe she may.

Would love to see the trough get her and take her moisture inland. Tough call.

The trough is there, her moisture seems to respond and yet...she remains anchored in the Gulf barely moving.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/eaus/flash-wv.html

Her tail is anchored so deep down into a flow from the Yucatan into the storm that she can continue to get fed energy way after the storms over Florida die down.

She actually looks better on the Visible Satellite today than she has in a while. You can see a band of convection that has wrapped around her center.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/vis-l.jpg

Either way the NE Gulf of Mexico is under the gun for "landfall" but everyone is under the gun for severe, tropical weather as she remains almost anchored where she spins.

Lastly, timing is everything in that... it can affect intensity and other things down the road.

But, hearing talk of her being near Hurricane strength on Wednesday near the coast of NE Florida would make the current besieged areas along the NW and West Coast of Florida that much more devastating. Ongoing strong tides, beach erosion, heavy rain and street flooding grown exponentially. A small leak in a roof after a day of rain because a huge leak after 3 days of rain.

Hope they are wrong and she finds a path out of the Gulf and she starts moving...

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Re: Debby to Sit and Spin off the Florida Panhandle [Re: MikeC]
      #92883 - Sun Jun 24 2012 05:53 PM

Convection associated with Debby does not appear as strong with warming cloud tops noted on satellite. She is actually moving into the one of the coolest part of the gulf [image]http://www.esl.lsu.edu/webpics/poes/GCOOS/composites/2012-06/120621%2Ecloudmask%2E30daycomp%2Ejpg[/image]. If she were to weaken some, would this lessen the chance of her being picked up by the Eastern US trough? It seems to me that, the stronger she becomes, the greater the Coriolis effect. Thus, she would be more apt to travel N and then NE.

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Re: Debby to Sit and Spin off the Florida Panhandle [Re: WesnWylie]
      #92885 - Sun Jun 24 2012 06:22 PM

Okay, that's a positive thought. As I have been thinking that she is moving a bit more NE and looking stronger in ways.

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/mimic-tpw/natl/anim/latest72hrs.gif

Maybe that's wishful thinking. Whatever emphasis the "trough" has should wane soon... imagine there can be some upwelling as well, unless she is moving faster than forecast. Bryan Norcross seems to believe she is moving a bit... I do tend to go with his gut.

Also, some of those storms should wane as the day moves on and the temperatures lower a bit in the area from Tampa to the Big Bend. They should fire up again tomorrow.

Good point... stronger might help her move faster.

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Re: Debby to Sit and Spin off the Florida Panhandle [Re: WesnWylie]
      #92886 - Sun Jun 24 2012 06:24 PM

Been raining here in Longwood, Fl all day but seems to be tapering off. Is the convection weakening? Seems the longer she spins over the same loacation, the more she will not have a chance to spin up.-

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Re: Debby to Sit and Spin off the Florida Panhandle [Re: OrlandoDan]
      #92890 - Sun Jun 24 2012 06:47 PM

Good to be back! The weather here in South Lakeland is getting uglier. We had a little bit of a break but I'm not sure that was such a good thing at all because of the little bit of sunshine that was allowed in at that time. Our pool is almost to the top. Stay safe~turn around, don't drown!

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Re: Debby to Sit and Spin off the Florida Panhandle [Re: Colleen A.]
      #92892 - Sun Jun 24 2012 06:55 PM

The water vapor is showing a pretty good chunk of dry air getting pulled in from the west side, which may halt any strengthening, and may dry out large chunks of it. The tail southwest of Florida will be a big band of storms that come overnight, and it may confuse situations some more. There will be areas that get tons of rain, and areas that get little, and it'll dry up for a bit in some places in Florida tonight, only later to get a rough band early in the morning.

A large moisture source from near the Yucatan will probably keep the rain flowing into West/Central Florida though. The setup for tonight/tomorrow is very conductive for tornadoes in west/central Florida. A tornado warning just popped up for Wauchula/Hardee county.


There are still a lot of questions regarding Debby, so the forecast is not a set thing yet.


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Re: Debby to Sit and Spin off the Florida Panhandle [Re: MikeC]
      #92894 - Sun Jun 24 2012 07:22 PM

This is the kind of rain we've needed in West Central Florida for a long time! Glad to see it!

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Re: Debby to Sit and Spin off the Florida Panhandle [Re: MikeC]
      #92898 - Sun Jun 24 2012 08:12 PM

Watching from western Polk County...the air is getting heavier, the rain is coming and I have a feeling that it's not going to be a pleasant night here. Time to put the kids in the closet again? It's great to be back.

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Re: Debby to Sit and Spin off the Florida Panhandle [Re: jdc0616]
      #92899 - Sun Jun 24 2012 08:13 PM

Agree om the need for a lot of rain here in FL. Live in Longeood and love to take my boat out on the Harris chain. Lake levels were so low I was bottoming out on the Dora Canal. As long as nobidy vets hurt, let it rain. Fill up this aquifer and the lakes!

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Re: Debby to Sit and Spin off the Florida Panhandle [Re: OrlandoDan]
      #92900 - Sun Jun 24 2012 08:18 PM

Colleen, check WTSP 10 news. They are tracking possible tornadoes right now and Polk county is in their discussion.

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Re: Debby to Sit and Spin off the Florida Panhandle [Re: Littlebit]
      #92901 - Sun Jun 24 2012 08:21 PM

It has been raining her in Clermont since 6AM this morning. Do we need the rain over here. Just as long as the wind and tornado's stay away were good.

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Re: Debby to Sit and Spin off the Florida Panhandle [Re: sprghill]
      #92902 - Sun Jun 24 2012 08:26 PM

Thanks, I will. I am currently watching BayNews9 and they have been on all day long. We're getting a good band of rain right now...not so much wind, though. I have friends whose parents live in Madiera Beach. Looks like they're getting pounded. 17' waves.

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Re: Debby to Sit and Spin off the Florida Panhandle [Re: Colleen A.]
      #92903 - Sun Jun 24 2012 08:31 PM

17 foot waves or 17 foot seas? I think the latter. She is not that strong. We are getting a good soaking rain in Longwood. I hoope everyone stays safe and there are no strong tornadoes.

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Re: Debby to Sit and Spin off the Florida Panhandle [Re: Littlebit]
      #92904 - Sun Jun 24 2012 08:32 PM

Haven't been here for a while, so if this is off subject, I apologize. We're supposed to leave for Canada on Saturday morning for 2 weeks. Wonder if Debby will mess up those plans?
Wow..getting really ugly here..rain blowing in from the East. Cannot believe the people that are trying to drive in this.

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Re: Debby to Sit and Spin off the Florida Panhandle [Re: Colleen A.]
      #92906 - Sun Jun 24 2012 08:36 PM

You are correct. I apologize. 17' waves would probably put all of them under water. My bad.

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Re: Debby to Sit and Spin off the Florida Panhandle [Re: Colleen A.]
      #92907 - Sun Jun 24 2012 08:46 PM

17 foot seas are massive for the Gulf. No apologies necessary. I hope to hell that there are no idiot small craft out there.

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Re: Debby to Sit and Spin off the Florida Panhandle [Re: OrlandoDan]
      #92908 - Sun Jun 24 2012 09:17 PM

I'm pretty sure they said 17' seas. That is on top of the 1-2 seas they already had before the storm came. We just had a few palm fronds hit the pool cage. And this will be my normal self: if there are any idiots out there, then they better hope they can get in touch with the Coast Guard. People that ignore warnings are just stupid. I won't apologize for that comment; it's just like people that drive through water...which I've seen so many times tonight. Stay home, watch a movie and take care of your family.

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Re: Debby to Sit and Spin off the Florida Panhandle [Re: Colleen A.]
      #92910 - Sun Jun 24 2012 09:38 PM

This is really going into the record books especially with respect to rainfall here in bay area. And just in past hour a Tornado came ashore near Tierra Verde and St.Pete beach areas. It was caught on camera and looked fairly large and quite a bit of damage in the the area. It came right over my house but thankfully it just lifted before reaching us but measured winds 51mph and tree limbs are down in my yard.

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Re: Debby to Sit and Spin off the Florida Panhandle [Re: Joeyfl]
      #92912 - Sun Jun 24 2012 09:41 PM

Wow I saw that on Bay New 9! Incredible! So glad you're okay! They're still trying to figure out exactly where that was..give them a call, lol!

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