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DMFischer
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Re: Track Shift [Re: Unregistered User]
      #23012 - Thu Sep 02 2004 05:09 AM

Yea he said it had spectacular stadium effects AND he said the this looks to be a Floyd that very well will brush the coast, if it makes land its where it will make land. Did I hear this man right?? I am trying to finish packing, we are headed to Tampa, only place I could get reservations. I HOPE Frances does a Floyd, but I have been reading here and watching, learning. I think this beautiful monster is going to hit. I just hope anyone listening to TWC will not get what I got, admittly got with my head going in 5 directions. Lord I am tired.

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Colleen A.
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Re: Track Shift [Re: javlin]
      #23013 - Thu Sep 02 2004 05:10 AM

Thanks, Clark and javlin. I'm watching Orlando News and I think they are on rerun because I've been hearing the same exact script for the last two hours. Probably getting some very much needed rest for what appears to be a wicked weekend.

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Re: Track Shift [Re: BillD]
      #23014 - Thu Sep 02 2004 05:12 AM

well I know that the CMC is not the most reliable model for tracking tropical systems, but at this point..... which was has for Frances.......now if in the morning the rest of them start showing a trend to the west and south... then the GOM looks like a real possibility..... if the ridge is strong enough it'll happen... I just don't know if it will be strong enough..

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Re: Up close and personal [Re: MrSpock]
      #23015 - Thu Sep 02 2004 05:12 AM

http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/discussions/pmdhmd.html

Latest model diagnostics are out. There are 2 key points here IMHO. First, they mention the 20m height issue, but I thought that was resolved for the 0Z models. I guess not. The second, is in their second to last paragraph when discussing the H5 trough in the N.E. The 2 words about that trough that I key on are "deeper" and "slower".


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Re: Track Shift [Re: DMFischer]
      #23016 - Thu Sep 02 2004 05:13 AM

I think he meant that it *could* deviate to the right or the left of the cone, meaning that it could brush the coast like Floyd. I'll listen and see what he says the next time. I'm not seeing a turn forecasted in the advisories that would indicate a brush, but maybe Mother Nature has other ideas, and I hope it is just a brush.

Now go get some rest.

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Re: Up close and personal [Re: MrSpock]
      #23017 - Thu Sep 02 2004 05:18 AM

I just read that and have no clue what that all means. Is that good or bad? Will the storm move faster or slower? I'm just a housewife, I don't understand all those weather terms.

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Re: You want south and west.... look at the latest CMC run [Re: Frank P]
      #23018 - Thu Sep 02 2004 05:19 AM

Interesting scenario Frank I still think she goes further S over Fl.The forward speed the ridge and open territory.No blocking mechanisms.The field is hers.The possibilty of another 48hrs with the ridge puts her past FL.

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mikeG
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Re: recon [Re: Colleen A.]
      #23019 - Thu Sep 02 2004 05:19 AM

FRANCES OB 05

24.3n
71.4w
they are now entering 70mph fl wnds


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Clark
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Re: You want south and west.... look at the latest CMC run [Re: Frank P]
      #23020 - Thu Sep 02 2004 05:29 AM

Yeah, that Canadian model is pretty far south and west. I'm not sure how much I buy into it's solution, though. It historically hasn't been a great performer.

By the way, I know they say the model data is updated faster at the FSU address, but you can sometimes get things faster from the original address, http://met.psu.edu/tropical/tcgengifs/. Plus, all of you all were slowing my machine down yesterday with the FSU address, so I'm kinda being selfish here!
(I'd go into more detail, but the 'Net isn't a safe place for that sorta info.)

Time for some rest everyone...me thinks tomorrow's going to be a long day.

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Re: You want south and west.... look at the latest CMC run [Re: Clark]
      #23022 - Thu Sep 02 2004 05:44 AM

Anyone have the 2am update yet?

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fred08
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Re: eoc [Re: Clark]
      #23023 - Thu Sep 02 2004 05:45 AM

http://207.156.43.82/

eoc watching sats/ and TWC (far right)


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Re: 2AM Advisory [Re: fred08]
      #23026 - Thu Sep 02 2004 05:55 AM

Advisory is late! What's up with the delay?

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Re: 2AM Advisory [Re: danielw]
      #23027 - Thu Sep 02 2004 05:57 AM

Don't know but I'm waiting for it before ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Re: 2AM Advisory [Re: Wxwatcher2]
      #23028 - Thu Sep 02 2004 05:57 AM

ZZZ someone wake me when it comes out

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Re: You want south and west.... look at the latest CMC run [Re: Wxwatcher2]
      #23029 - Thu Sep 02 2004 05:58 AM

The 2am isn't out quite yet...nor is there a recon fix. I think they are likely waiting for the recon fix, particularly on the intensity, to issue the 2am package. I'll comment on it very briefly once it comes out, then it's slumber time.

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mikeG
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Re: 2AM Advisory [Re: danielw]
      #23030 - Thu Sep 02 2004 05:59 AM

got to be recon.....

this could be bad.....last obs was 5 at
FIX TIME 0506
(Z) TIME 0106
(edt) LAT 24.30
(deg) LON 71.40
(deg) Wind Dir. 100
(deg) FL WIND 72.45
(mph) Aircraft Alt. 9974
(ft)

where's other's?


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Re: Track Shift [Re: DMFischer]
      #23031 - Thu Sep 02 2004 05:59 AM

this is not floyd. the conditions are totally diff. there was a deep trof. in the s.e. and they were pretty sure it would curve. there is no trof, here to do that. they need to talk about what is going on now not what was there in 1999.

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Re: You want south and west.... look at the latest CMC run [Re: Clark]
      #23032 - Thu Sep 02 2004 06:00 AM

I'll wait for your comments

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Re: sats bck in 30 mins? [Re: Wxwatcher2]
      #23033 - Thu Sep 02 2004 06:01 AM

when do sats come back?
0631z?


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Re: You want south and west.... look at the latest CMC run [Re: Wxwatcher2]
      #23034 - Thu Sep 02 2004 06:05 AM

Repeating the 2 am AST position...22.7 N... 72.5 W. Movement
toward...west-northwest near 14 mph. Maximum sustained
winds...145 mph. Minimum central pressure... 937 mb

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