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52255225
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Re: Ivan [Re: Keith234]
      #25936 - Sun Sep 12 2004 02:54 PM

I dont think there going to change it much. It will be interesting at 5:00. Good the sharks back!

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tikibar
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Re: Ivan Misses a Direct hit on the Caymans to the South [Re: Unregistered User]
      #25937 - Sun Sep 12 2004 02:55 PM

Hi.... It may say new subscriber to the left, but I just forgot my old user name and pass. I haven't been here for two years since moving from Delray Bch to Wisconsin. I think I used to be known as Red Dawg.....maybe....???

Been lurking lots this season, though.....

I'm gonna step out on a limb since I see everyones forecasts of landfall moving further and further west along the gulf coast.

I just don't see it. and some of the right-side outlying models are starting to back me up.

Sure the cat 4 & 5 can bull its way through as we've been seeing, but, I think, once the sheer kicks in Ivan will become more and more suseptible to steering influences.

Ultimately, I see the big hook coming thats gonna whip him back towards the peninsula...... and a landfall at about Cedar Key to Clearwater.

Just my hunch based on my observations<-worth 2 centavos

Disclaimer: I'm not a met. Never claimed to be one. Base all your decisions on official products of the NHC.


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Keith234
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Re: Ivan [Re: CentralFlorida]
      #25938 - Sun Sep 12 2004 02:56 PM

If it does go to the Yucatan I think it will jet away from it , just like it did with Jam.

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SoonerShawn
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Question [Re: CentralFlorida]
      #25939 - Sun Sep 12 2004 02:59 PM

Yes, another question. Ivan looks like he is pushing the first trof in the gulf to the north somewhat while the second trof is getting very close to the Texas coast. What happens when the two trofs back into each other?

ShawnS


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Re: Ivan Misses a Direct hit on the Caymans to the South [Re: tikibar]
      #25940 - Sun Sep 12 2004 03:00 PM

Thanks Tikibar, I hope you are right. The waiting is almost as bad as riding them out. I

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Re: Question [Re: SoonerShawn]
      #25941 - Sun Sep 12 2004 03:00 PM

I've also noticed Ivan's influence on the weather around him. Look how the surrounding features are affected by Ivan.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/float-wv-loop.html


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Re: Question [Re: ShaggyDude]
      #25942 - Sun Sep 12 2004 03:03 PM

Looks to me Cancun should be under a watch?

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wxman007
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I'm back...at least for a bit.... [Re: Keith234]
      #25943 - Sun Sep 12 2004 03:04 PM

Just made the flying run to N. AL to pick up some backup computer systems for use during Ivan...just settling in and starting the forecast process.

Ivan looks on track for my earlier ideas from last week, but the forecast is still far from certain. I am having real problems buying the further west tracks (Biloxi Westward), but we will have to see where the NW to N turn begins to get a good handle on it. To my eye, it still looks like a Panhandle storm, but we are now in await and see mode.

Folks here are flooding their home improvement stores and grocery stores just in case, and the town is buzzing with anticpation.

A note: as you might imagine it is about to get really busy here...I will post and respond as I have time...but please don't be offended if you ask me a question and you don't get an answer.

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Wxwatcher2
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Re: Question [Re: ShaggyDude]
      #25944 - Sun Sep 12 2004 03:04 PM

Ivan is still on a West path. Slight very Slight North but not gaining much latitude at all.

Is there a big curve in Ivan's future? Well at this rate it will take until mid week to know for sure.


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52255225
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Re: Question [Re: SoonerShawn]
      #25945 - Sun Sep 12 2004 03:06 PM

It wouldnt surprise me a bit if it did make it to texas!

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LI Phil
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Re: I'm back...at least for a bit.... [Re: wxman007]
      #25946 - Sun Sep 12 2004 03:09 PM

JK,

Good to have a real met on line...

Agree with you on the panhandle, but Ivan's sure tracking west...he'll probably still go over Coobah, although even that's a bit doubtful now.

How far is PCB from Biloxi? Is it less than 100 miles?

Just make sure the Spinacker is still standing when Ivan is all said and done, 'k?

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Re: I'm back...at least for a bit.... [Re: LI Phil]
      #25947 - Sun Sep 12 2004 03:15 PM

We are a bit over 100 miles away, to say the least.

Yes, he is moving a good bit west, but all the data that I can lay my hands on says that it shouldn't last a whole lot longer...we'll see.

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Edited by wxman007 (Sun Sep 12 2004 03:19 PM)


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sullynole
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Re: I'm back...at least for a bit.... [Re: LI Phil]
      #25948 - Sun Sep 12 2004 03:16 PM

I believe there's a good 200 miles or so between PCB and Biloxi.

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LI Phil
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Re: I'm back...at least for a bit.... [Re: wxman007]
      #25949 - Sun Sep 12 2004 03:17 PM

>>> all the data that I can lay my hands on says that it should last a whole lot longer

Should or Shoudn't?

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tikibar
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Re: I'm back...at least for a bit.... [Re: wxman007]
      #25950 - Sun Sep 12 2004 03:17 PM

did you mean to say "should" or "shouldn't"?

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SoonerShawn
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Jason [Re: wxman007]
      #25951 - Sun Sep 12 2004 03:17 PM

Do you mean "shouldn't" last longer?

ShawnS


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wxman007
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Re: I'm back...at least for a bit.... [Re: LI Phil]
      #25952 - Sun Sep 12 2004 03:19 PM

SHOULDN'T...

That is what 4 hrs of sleep does for you in the last 48.

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LI Phil
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Re: Jason [Re: SoonerShawn]
      #25953 - Sun Sep 12 2004 03:19 PM

LOL! I guess we don't hinge on his every word, do we?

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SoonerShawn
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Jason [Re: SoonerShawn]
      #25954 - Sun Sep 12 2004 03:22 PM

Well, 3 people in a row asking you the same thing.

I think that should tell you that we really pay attention to what you say.

ShawnS


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Keith234
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Re: Jason [Re: SoonerShawn]
      #25955 - Sun Sep 12 2004 03:23 PM

Wow three people asking the same question, just kidding. Ivan seems to have good outflow in just about all quads except the western. Why is this?

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