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BubbaTB
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Re: Tampa News Local Met [Re: Unregistered User]
      #26640 - Mon Sep 13 2004 06:07 PM

you ask.....Who in their right mind would do reporting like this?

it's called a "tease". Throwing out a line to recycle your viewers/listeners to a later time...and to create "buzz".

They accomplished their mission.

BubbaTB


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wxman007
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Re: Tampa News Local Met [Re: LI Phil]
      #26641 - Mon Sep 13 2004 06:10 PM

Quote:

Since you're on the inside...maybe you can ascertain this talk of track shift...





I think it was the hype machine in play, and totally irresponsible....but that is just my opinion...I don't beleive that it is based on fact, but some wild speculation.

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Cape Escape
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Re: Hurricane Ivan About to Enter the Gulf of Mexico, TD#11 Forms East of Leewards [Re: MrSpock]
      #26642 - Mon Sep 13 2004 06:12 PM

New registered user!
I have a question for you all. Our vacation home is located on Cape San Blas and I have been reading that being on the east side of a hurricane is the worst place to be. With the size of Ivan, how many miles to the east of the eye would be in this dangerous part?
Thanks!
Love the board!
Worried for Cape San Blas 29.6N 85.2W


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scottsvb
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Re: Tampa News Local Met [Re: wxman007]
      #26643 - Mon Sep 13 2004 06:13 PM

I think they are just keeping people aware of whats going on in the gulf cause you never know what TS conditions might affect the coast. Right now I dont expect the track to change much if any at 11pm. Maybe slightly right but really still the same. Now again, a wobble NW or N or whatever happens from 6pm-11pm could really impact the oz models for the 5AM advisoury postion tracks.

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ShaggyDude
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Re: Charley, Frances, Ivan [Re: scottsvb]
      #26644 - Mon Sep 13 2004 06:17 PM

Here's a link to a nice visual of the sizes between Charley, Frances, and Ivan. A little off, but pretty close to scale, and still a bit of meteorological eye candy.

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/coolimages/FloridaTCcomp.gif


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Steve
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Re: Charley, Frances, Ivan [Re: ShaggyDude]
      #26645 - Mon Sep 13 2004 06:37 PM

Definitely heading 305ish over the last two frames. Seems Ivan refuses to hit any island landmasses. Models initialized with positions when he jogged 330ish will be right-biased. I'm getting more and more convinced that this is a Mississippi-Alabama storm with some effects for SE LA and WFL. I guess if I had to make the call, I'd go with Long Beach-Biloxi as a strong Cat 3 or low-end Cat 4.

As noted on an earlier thread, Ivan should be the strongest storm to hit the Mississippi coast since Camille, though he shouldn't be in the same league at landfall - Wed late PM or Thurs late AM.

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wxman007
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Re: Charley, Frances, Ivan [Re: Steve]
      #26646 - Mon Sep 13 2004 06:39 PM

Point of order...there won't be any modelling initialized that way, because they haven't initialized the new runs yet....

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Re: Tampa News Local Met [Re: BubbaTB]
      #26647 - Mon Sep 13 2004 06:40 PM

Quote:

you ask.....Who in their right mind would do reporting like this?

it's called a "tease". Throwing out a line to recycle your viewers/listeners to a later time...and to create "buzz".

They accomplished their mission.

BubbaTB




Of course I realize their motive. It's just not the right circumstances to be doing this.


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Steve
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Re: Tampa News Local Met [Re: Orlando]
      #26648 - Mon Sep 13 2004 06:44 PM

Thanks JK. I thought the 18Z's would have been run around 1ish, but I guess that's when they put them out. Next 5-10 frames should be crucial in the long run. After further review, the last two jogs really appear to be around 295. Compared with the 4 near 330 and all the updates from today before 5 which were at 310, I'm thinking the storm is basically heading NW for now.

You guys take care in Panama City because you're gonna see some nasty weather, whether or not the eye landfalls nearby.

Steve

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troy
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Re: Tampa News Local Met [Re: Orlando]
      #26649 - Mon Sep 13 2004 06:44 PM

jason

How much pressure is on an on air met from his new director to hype a storm like Ivan?


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bobbi
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Re: Charley, Frances, Ivan [Re: Steve]
      #26650 - Mon Sep 13 2004 06:47 PM

dont worry steve... think Ivan will get over his land phobia once he is in the gulf

hes done enough damage skirting land, imagine what he will do slamming into it?


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RicaGa
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Found this Interesting [Re: BubbaTB]
      #26651 - Mon Sep 13 2004 06:48 PM

Because im bored at work and also because I find number patterns in almost everything, I noticed this. Probably been "disovered" before and if it has, I apologize for reposting. Anyhow, here goes:

Cat V Hurricanes to make landfall in the US:

1 - Labor Day Storm - 1935
2 - Hurricane Camille - 1969
3 - Hurricane Andrew - 1992
4 - (speculation not wishcasting) Hurricane Ivan - 2004

Number of years between 1 & 2: 34
Number of years between 2 & 3: 23
Number of years between 3 & 4: 12

See the pattern? Okay back to your regularly scheduled hurricane discussion (which you all are great at might I add!).


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wxman007
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Re: Tampa News Local Met [Re: troy]
      #26652 - Mon Sep 13 2004 06:48 PM

Depends on the News Director....here at my shop, it is my call to make..my management give me the freedom to make the calls that I deem necessary, and back me up all the way doing it. It is a VERY nice situation for me, and I know of very few shops who give people that much latitiude.

I can't really speak to anywhere else, because I am not there, but I would surmise that in the larger TV markets, there is a bit more pressure.

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LI Phil
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Re: Tampa News Local Met [Re: troy]
      #26653 - Mon Sep 13 2004 06:49 PM

Even up here, 1,500 miles away from Ivan...he's the number 1 story..

Does he even need hype?

You can cut the tension with a knife...we all gotta stay focused...at least until our eyeballs glaze over from looking at loops and getting loopy.

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Tarpon
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Re: Tampa News Local Met [Re: Orlando]
      #26654 - Mon Sep 13 2004 06:49 PM

I heard Phillips and the met on Bay News 9 also talk about the turn north. It seems like the next move was a sharp left. I am not one tenth as smart as you guys about all of this tracking. I am just reading these posts to get some opinions about this storm so that I can be ready to get out of Pinellas County if I have to. Thanks to all of you.

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Mozart
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Re: Found this Interesting [Re: RicaGa]
      #26655 - Mon Sep 13 2004 06:56 PM

Quote:

Cat V Hurricanes to make landfall in the US:

1 - Labor Day Storm - 1935
2 - Hurricane Camille - 1969
3 - Hurricane Andrew - 1992
4 - (speculation not wishcasting) Hurricane Ivan - 2004

Number of years between 1 & 2: 34
Number of years between 2 & 3: 23
Number of years between 3 & 4: 12

See the pattern?




Going by your reasoning, that would mean another Cat 5 next year as well.



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Rasvar
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more central Florida track on crack [Re: MrSpock]
      #26656 - Mon Sep 13 2004 06:57 PM

Was it Bay News 9 or WFTV 9 in Orlando? I just heard they hyped a "major change at 11" too. These guys are on crack.

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BubbaTB
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Re: Tampa News Local Met [Re: Orlando]
      #26657 - Mon Sep 13 2004 06:58 PM

I'm with you! If they have important information about the storm, they should give it now. obviously, they do not really have that kind of information, so in the long run they hurt themselves with this when tonight at 11pm their viewers discover the hype.

Best wishes to all,

BubbaTB


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LI Phil
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Re: Found this Interesting [Re: Mozart]
      #26658 - Mon Sep 13 2004 06:59 PM

>>> Going by your reasoning, that would mean another Cat 5 next year as well.

Nothing gets by Amadeus! LOL!

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spook
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Re: Tampa News Local Met [Re: Tarpon]
      #26659 - Mon Sep 13 2004 07:01 PM

Is it me or is it speeding up,and if it does speed up will that affect a more n,ne turn .

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