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Frank P
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Re: Frank P - riding it out... [Re: Unregistered User]
      #27607 - Wed Sep 15 2004 03:58 PM

thanks Steve, I need to watch that and see if it continues... I don't have much margin for error right now....

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Re: Frank P - riding it out... [Re: Steve]
      #27608 - Wed Sep 15 2004 03:58 PM

Hope you stay safe over there steve.

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models [Re: Frank P]
      #27609 - Wed Sep 15 2004 03:58 PM

AVN takes Jeanne to the east of the Bahamas at 6 days, and develops 91L to a Cat II or III hurricane, out near 40W

CMC takes Jeanne into the Keys at 5 days and near Panama CIty at 6 days, and develops 91L into a hurricane, also keeping it far to the east

GFDL has Jeanne taking a track similar but north of Georges in 1998, and hitting Miami in 5 days as a strong Cat II; takes 91L to the NW and NNW as a Cat I

NOGAPS takes Jeanne on a track similar to Dennis in 1999, including the stalling off of NC, in 6 days; it does not develop 91L, but shows something behind it

UKMET develops 91L and takes it NW, but it takes Ivan inland, moves it back out into the Gulf, has Jeanne rotating around it, getting near NC, and moving SW

Strange UKMET forecast


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Re: Convective Tail... [Re: scottsvb]
      #27610 - Wed Sep 15 2004 03:58 PM

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Edited by Storm Cooper (Wed Sep 15 2004 04:11 PM)


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jth
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Re: Frank P - riding it out... [Re: Frank P]
      #27611 - Wed Sep 15 2004 03:59 PM

You better watch real close. Ivan seems to have jogged a bit west in the past hour. Looks to be west of Mobile bay now.

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Re: Ivan Strength [Re: jth]
      #27612 - Wed Sep 15 2004 04:00 PM

I am in Maryland listening to steaming audio of WPMI in Mobile. The uninformed host of this radio station talk show is having a running discussion with callers about closing or not closing windows in your home for the approach of Ivan. He says the response is about 50/50.

I believe the correct answer is to close windows, but I have not yet found an official source for this information.
Can anyone help?

It is unbelievable the number of people who calling into this talk show who don't seem to have a clue what to do!

Thanks,

Bob


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leetdan
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Re: Frank P - riding it out... [Re: Frank P]
      #27613 - Wed Sep 15 2004 04:02 PM

Good to hear

The codes were completely overhauled down here after Andrew, and frankly I'm amazed just how much of a difference they make. You hear the older buildings shifting and creaking around you, but in a newer building you can barely even hear it, nevermind feel it.

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LI Phil
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Re: Ivan Strength [Re: rhendryx]
      #27614 - Wed Sep 15 2004 04:05 PM

re the streaming audio from Mobile...

Ya got a link to it you can post?

I would think that for anyone who hasn't boarded up their windows it's not going to matter...they'll be open one way or another.

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leetdan
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Re: Ivan Strength [Re: rhendryx]
      #27615 - Wed Sep 15 2004 04:06 PM

CLOSED!

What point is there in shuttering your house otherwise? The point is to isolate the things (most importantly, the people) inside the house from the wind and elements. Opening the windows is counter-intuitive, not to mention dangerous.

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Frank P
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Re: Frank P - riding it out... [Re: jth]
      #27616 - Wed Sep 15 2004 04:07 PM

jth, watching like a hawk down here... good news bp now 940 mb.... boy, that's a lot better than the 910 mb this thing had at one time.... max flight level winds down a little too..

RABBIT, get your butt in gear and weaken this damn thing right now.....

looks like I might not get hurricane force winds till about 5-6 tonight, so I still have some time to monitor for the west trends....


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Re: Ivan Strength [Re: rhendryx]
      #27617 - Wed Sep 15 2004 04:09 PM

"All of the doors and windows should be closed (and shuttered) throughout the duration of the hurricane."

Quoted from the NHC FAQ

There is a lot of information in the NHC FAQ, some of it interesting and a little humorous (like the methods thought of to try and destroy hurricanes). Worthwhile reading for anyone.

Bill

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scottsvb
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Re: Frank P - riding it out... [Re: Frank P]
      #27618 - Wed Sep 15 2004 04:09 PM

I guess I really didnt pay close attention on how to spell his name,,,sorry.

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Rabbit
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Re: Frank P - riding it out... [Re: scottsvb]
      #27619 - Wed Sep 15 2004 04:11 PM

anyone think the UKMET scenario is possible?
has anything like that really happened anytime recently, or at all?

BTW, I am forecasting Jeanne to miss the state by 30-50 miles, and Ivan appears, if it stays on its current track, that it will hit just west of Dauphin Island


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Justin in Miami
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Re: Frank P - riding it out... [Re: Frank P]
      #27620 - Wed Sep 15 2004 04:12 PM

Frank you have about 50-60 miles of error based on the current forecast track that brings the storm into Mobile Bay...at least that's what is says on my map program on computer....if that verifies you will get the western eyewall.

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Re: Frank P - riding it out... [Re: Frank P]
      #27621 - Wed Sep 15 2004 04:12 PM

good luck Frank, and stay in a safe place. I am praying for all those in Ivan's path every day.

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RABBIT! [Re: Rabbit]
      #27622 - Wed Sep 15 2004 04:13 PM

Think we're concentrating on Ivan for now...can you work that Rabbit Voodoo Hex for Frank?

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Re: Frank P - riding it out... [Re: Rabbit]
      #27623 - Wed Sep 15 2004 04:14 PM

No idea Rabbit, that's a downright zany track.

I can't remember the last time two cyclones directly interacted with / fed into each other, my guess would be during the rush of storms in '98. It'd be fascinating to watch how the convective remnants of Ivan interact with the convection and outflow of Jeanne.

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Re: Frank P - riding it out... [Re: Frank P]
      #27624 - Wed Sep 15 2004 04:17 PM

glad to see the bp going up !! Maybe that will help my bp (blood pressure) to go down. Looks like me and the idiot are staying put. I'm as prepared as we can get. Eating what will prob. be my last warm meal, and then have to make a quick rescue run to get a rabbit in a cage out of someone's yard since they left it there. Wind picking up here -- gusting maybe up to 20mph; no rain at my house yet. Here's a link to our local radar and the eye is clearly seen. http://www.intellicast.com/Local/USLocal...mp;prodnav=none Rain bands should be here within the hour.
I'll keep y'all posted as I can !


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Rabbit
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Re: RABBIT! [Re: LI Phil]
      #27625 - Wed Sep 15 2004 04:18 PM

Do you really want me to say much about Ivan? It changes course every time I do
I told everyone it would hit Trinidad--It hit Grenada
I told everyone it would move west into South America--it bounced north
I told everyone it would hit Jamaica--it detoured south
I told everyone it would continue west into the Yucatan--it turned towards Cuba
I told everyone it would move west and hit the Isle of Youth or go to the east--it veered to the west again
I told everyone it would hit Louisiana--it turned north again
I told everyone it would hit Pensacola--it again turned west
I said a few minutes ago that it would hit Mobile Bay--as My earlier post said, now it might go west of there

What i say seems to change the hurricane to the opposite direction or strenght
Cat 5 at landfall
lets see if it can weaken now


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Kdubs
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Keep your windows closed [Re: leetdan]
      #27626 - Wed Sep 15 2004 04:18 PM

I agree with you leetdan. Keep your windows CLOSED.

A couple examples of why...

1) During Charley, a friend of mine had his windows open to "equalize the pressure " between the inside and outside of his home. The result = the wind made the pressure so great inside the home, it had leverage to lift his roof off. It came back down in the same place, but now sits detached from the frame of his home. The walls are covered in mold and the drywall is rotting. He has been forced to move to another property. His home will have to be completely remodeled after having the roof reattached.

2) During Frances, my father went outside to video the effects of the wind. He left the front door open and a gust of wind came in, went around two 90deg turns in the hallway and sent two ceiling light fixtures smashing to the ground. We are still picking up glass off the floor.

Having your windows can be extremely dangerous.

Be safe...

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