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LoisCane
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question on jeanne's current movement and strength [Re: Clark]
      #29350 - Sun Sep 19 2004 10:48 PM

1... dont think shes going north anymore. Not sure if she stopped or is looping here at this spot or moving a drop west, wnw, nw... but not too north. Last frames on loop are either eye oh im sorry... center is circulating on itself and looks like movement or is movement. maybe just a trend but gee not trending ne

2.. strength has to be higher than has been given, look at the presentation of the storm and what seems to be a rapidly developing CDO

3.. can see Ivan's ghost moving w to sw across the state.. read melbourne wxr statement.. it reads like all the outlaw forecasters have been saying

4... think that everyone has understimated this girl from the get go

and.... now is not a good time to be in denial or to be a wishcaster

believe it was supposed to take a few days to look this good.

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LoisCane
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ps on karl [Re: LoisCane]
      #29351 - Sun Sep 19 2004 10:57 PM

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/watl-wv-loop.html

sorry but that movement looks for a while to be north of due west not wNw ... am sure its going to go wnw and going to curve but its making its way west and not a whole lot north if you ask me

so will be a player here even if it guiding jeanne

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Re: ps on karl [Re: LoisCane]
      #29352 - Sun Sep 19 2004 11:04 PM

I was just checking the forcast points on the Loops and the center is not going in the direction of the forecast points. The center is headed to the left of the next forecast point and is definitely not turning a hard right at this time. Unless some one has a dyslexic screen problem, we have a storm that has totally ignored the forecast at this point. It is soooo scarey. What if nobody is home at the NHC and the computers are in charge?

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Re: Ivan ?? [Re: Clark]
      #29353 - Sun Sep 19 2004 11:07 PM

Local met from Biloxi stated on tonights weather that a piece of energy from Ivan's remnants would be causing increasing winds out of the east 15-20 mph as well as an increase in shower activity along the MS coast late Mon and Tues... then he pointed to the sat picture to where the remnants of Ivan were located, in the south Ga area is where he kinda pointed, of which all I saw was crystal clear skies... then he said at the moment there was no weather associated with this piece of energy....and would probably develop as it entered the GOM....

It had to be the strangest forecast I've seen in while, in a year of strange tropical forecasts.... go figure...

I don't know what worse, watching the Saints or waiting for a Cat 3 hurricane to hit you...... both are pretty stressful....


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GuppieGrouper
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Re: Ivan ?? [Re: Frank P]
      #29354 - Sun Sep 19 2004 11:13 PM

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I don't know what worse, watching the Saints or waiting for a Cat 3 hurricane to hit you...... both are pretty stressful....



I would imagine that both are pretty bad however, at least in one case you would probably like to try again to see if this time You could win.

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Re: question on jeanne's current movement and strength [Re: LoisCane]
      #29355 - Sun Sep 19 2004 11:17 PM

Ivan's ghost is a mere area of voricity and a cloud swirl. If that can develop, re-develop then this season is really "A Season from Hell" something coming back from the dead, creeps me out. The comment I said about Isabel, I don't and I mean don't think that the next storm will be a CAT 5 in any way shape or form. I'm just saying that could take a somewhat a simliar track to that Isabel. I'm not just saying this and having no reason to back it up, that's just plain stupid. Here is my reason, the ensembles have the ridge breaking by Japan this could teleconnect with the ridge in the east, breaking this down would allow a hit in the north; the Carolinas. We have seen time and time again a big new england wheel high governing the tropics and directing storms to Florida. I'm simply sepculating that the model's have been trending more to troughs then to the overall ridges in general. Just my take on the next storm, and by the way teleconnection's are usually somewhat far off from the real deal.

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JB is not the only one! [Re: Keith234]
      #29356 - Sun Sep 19 2004 11:26 PM

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/hgx/productview.php?pil=HGXAFDHGX&version=0

I guess there are others who are just as crazy as JB!!!!


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Frank P
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Re: Ivan ?? [Re: GuppieGrouper]
      #29357 - Sun Sep 19 2004 11:26 PM

GG.... well they did win today, but even when they win, its like they lose... strange huh.... hope Steve doesn't read this.... hehe

heck, I'm still trying to figure out our local mets forecast from 6.... and I still can find any remnant of Ivan heading this way, maybe its a stealth system.....


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Re: ps on karl [Re: GuppieGrouper]
      #29358 - Sun Sep 19 2004 11:26 PM

"What if nobody is home at the NHC and the computers are in charge?"

perish the thought Guppie! but thats a darn good question


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Re: JB is not the only one! [Re: SoonerShawn]
      #29359 - Sun Sep 19 2004 11:30 PM

Shawn, what the hell is a BEAR watch? ya'll watch for bears in Texas?

Sounds pretty dangerous...

Warning BEAR watch in effect... Bears may be approaching your area within 24-36 hours.... Please monitor the progress of this BEAR watch for further updates....


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Re: JB is not the only one! [Re: SoonerShawn]
      #29360 - Sun Sep 19 2004 11:33 PM

That's crazy, having "pops" at 30 perent is a sign that they're not to sure about that forecast. I just don't see this storm maintaining it's self.

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I need some info from Pensacola - looking for a friend [Re: Frank P]
      #29361 - Sun Sep 19 2004 11:38 PM

Is there anyone here from Pensacola? I need some info on the area off W. Michigan - I can't get in touch with a friend on Boulder Ave.
Does anyone have any info on damage, phone availability, etc?
Thanks very much!

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My apologies... [Re: LI Phil]
      #29362 - Sun Sep 19 2004 11:38 PM

I may have been too harsh in my comments about Accuweather and if so, I apologize. I realized that I don't know much about Accuweather.com beyond what is presented in the free portion of their site, which offers very little in the way of information as to why such a track is possible. From an outsider who may not even know about other sites like NOAA and this one, basically you are getting a snapshot of a concept of an unsure thing, that seems much more sure when put into graphic form. It is that that I think Accuweather does wrong, which is to put up a track 7 days in advance in a system that has not followed any of the paths it has been estimated to go. It just causes undue worry that far out.

Anyway, didn't mean to rattle any feathers if I did.


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Frank P [Re: Frank P]
      #29363 - Sun Sep 19 2004 11:39 PM

I was thinking the same thing!

I told you that JB is not the only one on something.

I don't know what the heck is going on.


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Re: I need some info from Pensacola - looking for a friend [Re: belleami]
      #29364 - Sun Sep 19 2004 11:40 PM

http://www.pensacolanewsjournal.com/

There is a lot of info here and should help you out. I have someone there and most phone service is out but the power situation is really getting better.

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Re: I need some info from Pensacola - looking for a friend [Re: Storm Cooper]
      #29365 - Sun Sep 19 2004 11:59 PM

Thanks, I was cruising that site - the damage is unbelievable. I feel so lucky here,
I will keep checking in, and looking for more info.
God bless

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Re: Charter Member of the JB fan Club [Re: Keith234]
      #29366 - Sun Sep 19 2004 11:59 PM

Phil/Keith.... what's the connection.... same hometown... Keith in high school and Phil knows it.... farther/son?

Too bad I was too late to give insight on CNs.... as an atmospheric chemist, finally something I can talk about and have a clue as to what's going on!

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Re: Charter Member of the JB fan Club [Re: Terra]
      #29367 - Mon Sep 20 2004 12:04 AM

No connection here between us and we live in two different towns Deer Park and Mineola but not that far away. I have talked to him and said I was in high school which I am, that's how he knows.

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Re: I need some info from Pensacola - looking for a friend [Re: belleami]
      #29368 - Mon Sep 20 2004 12:07 AM

try these other active boards

http://www.momsview.com/discus/messages/board-topics.html For Gulf shores

http://users.boardnation.com/~waff/index.php?board=12 Alabama

http://p207.ezboard.com/fcityfreqfrm1 (for Orange Beach)
http://members.boardhost.com/hurricanecity/

http://www.pensacolasgreatest.com/MessageBoard.html Pensacola

http://www.digitalcity.com/pensacolafl/communityguidelines/ Pensacola


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Re: Charter Member of the JB fan Club [Re: Keith234]
      #29369 - Mon Sep 20 2004 12:08 AM

Terra, I'm the only one on these boards allowed to stir the pot!

As Keith said, we live close, but not that close---probably 30 miles apart...you may have noticed the lat/lon similarities, I didn't take mine out three decimal points, but if I did, they'd look farther apart.

Lets keep it on the weather...I got a hankering Jeanne has a couple of surprises in store...I'm NOT buying the NHC forecast for a minute...still not gonna make any kind of a forecast because I've had my fill of crow for a while.

Let's see where she is in the morning..

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