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cjzydeco
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Loc: Vero Beach, FL 27.68N 80.40W
Re: Florida in the crosshairs - again! [Re: Katie]
      #30123 - Thu Sep 23 2004 09:18 AM

Quote:

Is there any chance I might get caught up in this storm on my return flight as we land?



If the forecast track verifies, the airport in Orlando would more than likely close late Saturday and your flight would be cancelled. They usually fly the planes out of Dodge when a hurricane is coming.


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Fletch
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Re: Florida in the crosshairs - again! [Re: Katie]
      #30124 - Thu Sep 23 2004 09:20 AM

I'm not sold on this due West movement. Looking at WV I would expect more of a WNW movement once it gets going again.

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Ricreig
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Loc: Orlando, Fl 28.56N 81.27W
Re: Florida in the crosshairs - again! [Re: Katie]
      #30125 - Thu Sep 23 2004 09:20 AM

Quote:

Just a general question for you all. I haven't had time yet this morning to do some searching online regarding Jeanne and her new track towards FL.

I am leaving for Chicago in the morning and returning on Sunday at 2. Is there any chance I might get caught up in this storm on my return flight as we land? I was just curious if I should try to get an earlier flight or a later flight. Or, if I should just wait it out another day in Chicago? My biggest concern would be travelling with my little girl from the airport home in bad weather. Any suggestions would be most helpful!

Katie


That's a tough call but my best guess is that by 2pm on Sunday, you might not have a choice but to wait it out in Chicago. Any time after dark on Saturday *could* result in a cancelled flight depending on Jeannes' actual track and position.

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Richard
A forecast is NOT a promise!


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leetdan
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Re: Florida in the crosshairs - again! [Re: Katie]
      #30126 - Thu Sep 23 2004 09:21 AM

Most of the airports closed a day in advance for the other storms, so really it depends on where you're flying to. MCO and PBI look to be more in the direct path at the moment, though that could easily change (along with the timeframe) as the day moves on. Keep your eyes peeled, and your options open.

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[witty phrase here]
08: 14/6/2


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Ormond Suzie
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hurricane supplies [Re: Redbird]
      #30127 - Thu Sep 23 2004 09:26 AM

Redbird - your suggestion of a portable mini-fridge is a good one, especially, as you said, for families who need to keep milk cold for their children.

Here's a low-tech solution to consider as well: milk (even chocolate or soy-based) is now available as individual-serving boxed drinks (much like those juicy juice boxes). It doesn't have to be refrigerated until it's opened and would usually be finished at one meal, it doesn't need to be mixed with water like dry milk, it's convenient for storage with your hurricane supplies. If you prefer it chilled, you can even throw some boxes in the freezer while you've still got power and let them freeze into small ice blocks. When I was a kid, the milk we got with our school lunches was often (accidently) frozen solid - tasted fine once it thawed. In fact, for Frances I made up my own individual servings of orange juice and soy milk and put them in the freezer instead of buying ice. Worked great at keeping things cool, at least for the shorter outage we had that time around.


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Lake Toho - Kissimmee
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Re: hurricane supplies [Re: Ormond Suzie]
      #30128 - Thu Sep 23 2004 09:29 AM

Freezer bags are excellent to make ice in.. They stack real good too so you jam your freezer full of em and it last for a long time.. Once the water thaws its also drinkable or can be used for dishes..

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Fletch
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Re: hurricane supplies [Re: Ormond Suzie]
      #30129 - Thu Sep 23 2004 09:31 AM

Headline from todays Sun Sentinel

Fire kills 5 inside boarded-up home in Homestead

For those of us, and I know there are many, that still have our shutters/plywood up, please be careful. 3 of the 5 people were kids. These storms don't even need to hit to cause problems.

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leetdan
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Re: hurricane supplies [Re: Fletch]
      #30130 - Thu Sep 23 2004 09:33 AM

Yeah... The boards we left up were only hard-to-reach, we made sure all the bedrooms were left accessible.

Sad to hear this happened

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Lake Toho - Kissimmee
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Re: hurricane supplies [Re: Fletch]
      #30131 - Thu Sep 23 2004 09:35 AM

The next big model run isnt until the 12Z, are the 6Z's out ?

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Ricreig
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Re: preparations [Re: scottsvb]
      #30132 - Thu Sep 23 2004 09:37 AM

REPEATING THE 8 AM EDT POSITION...25.6 N... 69.5 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...DRIFTING ERRATICALLY. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS...100 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 966 MB.


Scitt, or one of the more weather savvy, I don't remembrr this being 'expected' and I didn't see it coming last night. In the past, I've noticed that stops and drifts often preceeded direction changes. Any thoughts on the significance of this in terms of track changes?

Regardless of track changes, any time spent in the Ocean is more time for (hopefully) good things to occur.

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Richard
A forecast is NOT a promise!

Edited by Ricreig (Thu Sep 23 2004 09:40 AM)


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Wanna-Be-Storm-Chaser
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Loc: Deltona, FL 28.92N 81.22W
Re: Ivan [Re: MadDog]
      #30133 - Thu Sep 23 2004 09:38 AM

I know how you feel. I live in Deltona too. Still to much debris that needs to be picked up.

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I survived Jeanne, Charley, and Frances


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cocoa Beach
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Re: preparations [Re: Ricreig]
      #30134 - Thu Sep 23 2004 09:40 AM

After watching the Sat loops since 8am
No real movement noted, I think If some kind of Westward motion hasn't started at 5pm tonight, Jeanne will not be a threat to FL Central Coast, my guess is that she starts to upwell and fizzle.
That is my gut feeling which by the way was dead on for Charley and Frances.


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AgentB
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Re: hurricane supplies [Re: Fletch]
      #30135 - Thu Sep 23 2004 09:45 AM

Ah yes, a good 'ole minifridge. One of those and a charged battery backup, and you'll be good for a while.

I was surprised that Jeanne hadn't moved more in the 9hrs between 11pm Wed and 8am Thursday. She basically drifted south, came back a little north and drifted a little west. As of the 5am discussion the NHC had her tracking as far south as 25.4N(70.5/72.1W). It will be interesting to see if she does indeed track further south and stay along that line as she heads west. Hopefully this slight jog back to the north(25.5 to 25.6N) signals that she's done heading south. This morning I could see where she would head if she was moving WNW, and it appeared to be, at the time, towards the SC/GA border. However, the high pressure to the north of her isn't stationary and that's why the path will change. The 5am discussion yesterday, which had her off the coast of Florida, had her passing 70W at about 26N. If this does end up happening, which it could with the way she's sort of stationary right now, then we would probably see a shift of the paths back to the right a little bit.

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Ricreig
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Loc: Orlando, Fl 28.56N 81.27W
Re: preparations [Re: cocoa Beach]
      #30136 - Thu Sep 23 2004 09:45 AM

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..That is my gut feeling which by the way was dead on for Charley and Frances.



Your guts are as good as mine and you appear to have a good track record. I tend to agree that if movement doesn't start within 5-6 hours, it improves the forecast for Florida if for no other reason that the pros forecasts are also off and something happened unexpectedly. Whatever that might be, it is unlikely to be *worse* for those under the gun but could be for our neighbors.

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Richard
A forecast is NOT a promise!


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from Gainesville
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movement? [Re: Ricreig]
      #30137 - Thu Sep 23 2004 09:56 AM

After looking at the IR loop for the last 6 hours, it sure looks like the eye has obviously moved to the W, possibly to the WNW. Is this my imagination?

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Vladimirr
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Re: movement? [Re: from Gainesville]
      #30138 - Thu Sep 23 2004 09:59 AM

That's been my impression as well.

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LanceW
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Re: movement? [Re: Vladimirr]
      #30139 - Thu Sep 23 2004 10:01 AM

Looks like west to me, but I am just a newbie here...

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Wanna-Be-Storm-Chaser
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Loc: Deltona, FL 28.92N 81.22W
Re: preparations [Re: Ricreig]
      #30140 - Thu Sep 23 2004 10:01 AM

In the latest sat, is she moving somewhat like wnw instead of w?

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cjzydeco
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Loc: Vero Beach, FL 27.68N 80.40W
Re: preparations [Re: Wanna-Be-Storm-Chaser]
      #30141 - Thu Sep 23 2004 10:08 AM

If you look at just the latest motion, then it definately appears WNW. But if you look at the overall motion of the past 6 hours or so, the eye kinda seems to be wobbling around another axis. If that makes any sense.

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Terra
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Loc: Mandeville, LA
Re: preparations [Re: Wanna-Be-Storm-Chaser]
      #30142 - Thu Sep 23 2004 10:09 AM

Quote:

In the latest sat, is she moving somewhat like wnw instead of w?




I don't think she's finished wobbling yet....

And I guess I type slowly too!

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Terra M. Dassau, Ph.D.
(Chemistry, however, so don't think I'm an expert!)

Edited by Terra (Thu Sep 23 2004 10:10 AM)


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