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LI Phil
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Re: Politics [Re: Keith234]
      #34087 - Sun Oct 24 2004 06:28 PM

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I believe bush is ahead, by the way LI phil are you a democrat or a republican? If you don't mind me asking




Heh...Keith Jason, you seem very perceptive, waddya think? BTW, didn't I give you the link to my boss' website?

For the latest electoral college tallies...

BTW, I'll post this on the main boards as well, but on E-Day, (11/2), the E & N forum will become the Presidential forum...more to come on that!

E & N like D & R; or B & sK ??-danielw

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Edited by danielw (Sun Oct 24 2004 07:29 PM)


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Re: Politics [Re: LI Phil]
      #34088 - Sun Oct 24 2004 06:35 PM

Yeah, I just didn't remember. I'm what you would call politically inept!

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Re: Politics [Re: 52255225]
      #34089 - Sun Oct 24 2004 06:37 PM

What is there, 538 electoral college votes all together? How is that number arrived at?

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Re: Politics [Re: Keith234]
      #34090 - Sun Oct 24 2004 06:49 PM

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What is there, 538 electoral college votes all together? How is that number arrived at?




Actually, it's quite simple...

The number of electoral votes for each state is arrived at by calculating the number of Senators and Representatives from that state...the smaller states, like Montana & Wyoming, have 3 EVs; one Rep & 2 Senators (every state has 2 senators). The larger states, like NY, CA & TX, which have many Reps, have more EVs...thus, one can win the presidency simply by winning a majority in the most populus 19 states!

Remember, we do not live in a "true" democracy, but a Republic.

Which is why the founding fathers didn't quite trust the "rabble" (common man) to determine the fate of the nation, but to those representing the common man in the electoral college. This is why Gore, who won the popular vote, is not president today.

This is why the pols are spending the rest of the next week in Michigan, Florida & Ohio (and Pennsylvania). Because of the "winner take all" set up, if you win 50.1% of the vote in any of these states, you get their entire electoral vote.

Maybe the system needs changing...I'm not going down that path right now...but it's the system under which we play right now...and, if you ask me, it's worked pretty good since 1783.

JFK vs GWB! It's all good baby!

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Re: Politics [Re: LI Phil]
      #34091 - Sun Oct 24 2004 06:50 PM

I feel they should weigh the popular votes .25% less compared to the electoral votes. We have a lot of dumb people out there, and the countries faith should not be in those people's hands. Just my thoughts...

>>> countries faith

Think you mean FATE...although...Separation of Church & State, that's why this is such a GREAT Country!

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Re: Politics [Re: Keith234]
      #34093 - Sun Oct 24 2004 06:58 PM

Actually, and this will be my last post for a couple hours, it all goes back to a wonderful book written by Alexis de Tocqueville, "tyranny of the majority" which has been the major argument against such for the past 200 or so years.

It's always sour grapes for the loser of the election...of the popular vote...however, it's only happened 2 times in 228 years...so it's not usually a problem.

Damn J-E-T-S are about to lose a crusher to the Patsies... and I gotta go have dinner with my folks... back on here in 1-2 hours, if anyone is interested...

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Re: Politics [Re: Keith234]
      #34094 - Sun Oct 24 2004 06:59 PM

Thats funny! Sadly true though. maybe a history quiz at the polls for voter qualification.

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Re: Politics [Re: 52255225]
      #34096 - Sun Oct 24 2004 07:13 PM

I guess you could do that but then people would say it's unconsitiutional as it opposes popular soveringity.

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Re: Politics [Re: Keith234]
      #34097 - Sun Oct 24 2004 07:31 PM

Why is it the initials " JFK" give me goosebumps when I see them?

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Re: Politics [Re: LI Phil]
      #34098 - Sun Oct 24 2004 08:03 PM

I've read that book, it is wonderful but hard to follow sometimes.. a similar book comes to mind exposing the problems of each form of goverment;it's on the tip of my tongue?

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Re: Politics [Re: danielw]
      #34099 - Sun Oct 24 2004 08:08 PM

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Why is it the initials " JFK" give me goosebumps when I see them?




In a good way or a bad way???

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Re: Politics [Re: Keith234]
      #34100 - Sun Oct 24 2004 08:31 PM

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I've read that book, it is wonderful but hard to follow sometimes.. a similar book comes to mind exposing the problems of each form of goverment;it's on the tip of my tongue?




http://www.geekteacher.net/governments.html

This ain't the "book" you're thinking of, but the point is the same...

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Re: JFK [Re: LI Phil]
      #34101 - Sun Oct 24 2004 09:28 PM

Bad way I guess. Remember the day he got shot.

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Re: JFK [Re: danielw]
      #34118 - Mon Oct 25 2004 08:30 PM

Very sad day for the nation...



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