HanKFranK
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i've posted the link to this article below. the other night i was searching through articles in the journal of climate and came across the official document. from limited information available, time-series weather charts of the region were reconstructed... most of the article involved accounts from san diego describing the conditions and their progression in the nature of a passing tropical cyclone. makes me wonder what else chris landsea will dig up. whats even cooler is that one of the faculty at USC that i know was referenced as contributing... reckon i'll have something to ask him about next time i talk to him.
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http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20050112-9999-2m12cane.html
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Clark
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There was an article in the Bulletin of the AMS about that system as well back in the November issue; it may well be very much like that in the Journal of Climate. They were hyping up that story in particular because the annual AMS conference was in, of all place, San Diego in January.
It's an easy & interesting read for those into global hurricane history, not just that of the Atlantic. For those interested, you *should* be able to get a PDF copy here: http://ams.allenpress.com/pdfserv/10.1175%2FBAMS-85-11-1689
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danielw
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Thanks. A most interesting article. I would have never suspected a tropical storm of any magnitude in the SouthWest. Chris Landsea et al certainly do a fine job!
Clark and Hank, you need to start on your manuscripts so you can publish as soon as you graduate!
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Clark
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Daniel -- there are a few other documented examples of such storms, but they are pretty rare. It's almost got to be perfect conditions -- much like me seeing snow in Tallahassee, except a bit more rare -- for a storm to make it intact to California. Sea surface temperatures need to be pretty warm, the storm needs to be fairly strong as it begins to recurve to the north and northeast, and the storm needs to be moving rapidly to maintain its intensity. The closer the storm parallels the Baja coast, the more likely it is to make it further north due to warmer sea surface temps.
I'm not sure if there is any data about the storm from well to the south, but I'd bet it was a pretty strong (cat 3+) storm off of the coast of Mexico. It'd be interesting for the sheer effect to see something like it again someday (albeit staying offshore so as to spare a very highly developed SW Cali coast!), but I don't see it as very likely.
As for publishing...in due time!  If it all works out, it's going to be some very good stuff...and some initial stuff could come as early as later this year.
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hurricane_run
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neither did I
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Ed Dunham
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Actually, if my memory is still fairly accurate, one of the most active locations for tropical cyclone activity in the southwestern U.S. is Yuma, Arizona - check it out. If a storm comes up the Gulf of California (which is a rare event), it does not encounter cooler water. I think that they've had two or three events in Yuma.
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Ed, they do tend to get some storms up in Arizona that traverse the Gulf of California (I can recall a few tropical storm-force cyclones in the area), though they are limited by the narrow expanse of water in the region. It's almost akin for those storms to those passing directly through the Caribbean Islands (e.g. Georges 1998), albeit not quite the same in manner. The trip up the other side of the Baja, though, is practically death for a storm.
Most memorable for me, however, was Atlantic TC Claudette -- I think 2003 -- that made landfall in S. Texas as a weak hurricane. It continued to the west for several days, bringing large amounts of rain across the Rio Grande basin, with no forcing to lift its remnants to the north. Finally, as it reached southern California, it met with a trough to lift it towards the north and into the midlatitudes. That is certainly a rare event, an interesting one at any rate.
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HanKFranK
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guess that was nora in '97 being referred to. i've seen reference on kathleen in 1976 also. i did talk to cary (prof. here who was referenced in the article). when the research was being done he sort of laughed the idea of a san diego hurricane off, but the author put all the data together and came up with a really good case in the end. if ya want to eyeball another weirdo pacific storm, check out the hurricane in the subtropics in 1975. that's about as out-of-place as, say, a hurricane in brazil.
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