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mojorox
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Re: State of Emergency [Re: Colleen A.]
      #39182 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:33 PM

Colleen, I don't understand it either....

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Re: Hurricane Watches up For Keys, Tropical Storm Watch For Southern Florida Dennis [Re: Unregistered User]
      #39183 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:34 PM

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Hi! We'll be arriving in Destin Sat morning for vacation....anyone know anything about the stom and that area?




I live in Destin and it doesn't look so good right now. We're evacuating late Saturday/Early Sunday. We'll just have to wait and see.


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Re: State of Emergency [Re: Colleen A.]
      #39184 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:35 PM

Colleen i dont know either, but our local met just said that high off fla east coast
was found to be quite a bit weaker than prev. thought and should move east
bringing Dennis closer to fla


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Re: Latest GOM setup [Re: Storm Hunter]
      #39185 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:36 PM

Looking at this map, I see a weakness between the high's that runs right along the west coast of FL. Is this map a statement of current weather conditions or a forecast?

If the situation as presented in the map pans out, it looks like a West Coast scraper all the way to the Panhandle

--Lou


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twizted sizter
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Re: State of Emergency [Re: Colleen A.]
      #39186 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:36 PM

Having the high move to the east allows the chance for Dennis to move in closer to the west coast of Fl.

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Re: State of Emergency [Re: Colleen A.]
      #39187 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:37 PM

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So...basically what they are saying is that this will be CLOSER to the western Florida peninsula because the weak high pressure ridge is moving to the east?
I know I must sound like the stupidest person in the world, but I'm not quite sure EXACTLY whether this is GOOD or BAD for Central Florida, LOL!
Thanks for being so patient!




Collene, Im right with you. At times the met terminology really confuses me so I just keep reading and ask questions at times. I just to know plain and simple...how will Dennis effect west central florida if it brushes by etc etc etc.


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Critical Times [Re: Colleen A.]
      #39188 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:37 PM

Unbelieveable.

Since 2004, it's as if these storms have a fetish for Florida or something. I woke up this morning and saw the NW motion, perhaps thinking that it may be a wobble. Then I saw the model runs...and became a little more concerned. Obviously, the ridge is remaining in place SOMEWHAT, but Dennis' NW motion perhaps shows a repositioning of the ridge.

The next 24 hours are CRITICAL as to what this storm is going to do. Watching intently in Florida...


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Re: Hurricane Watches up For Keys, Tropical Storm Watch For Southern Florida Dennis [Re: iloathedennis]
      #39189 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:38 PM

Are they suggesting evacuation? The condo we're staying at is on the bay side I think the street name is Indian something . Any info would be greatly appreciated!

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Re: Latest GOM setup [Re: recmod]
      #39190 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:39 PM

Current conditions....mostly surfacs obs.... pressure/winds/temps...etc.

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Southwest North Atlantic: A subsection of the Tropical Surface Analysis covering the region from the Equator to 40°N, 40°W to 110°W. Issued four times a day at 0000, 0600, 1200, and 1800 UTC.

Caribbean Sea: A subsection of the Tropical Surface Analysis covering the region from 5°N to 25°N, 50°W to 95°W. Issued four times a day at 0000, 0600, 1200, and 1800 UTC.

Gulf of Mexico: A subsection of the Tropical Surface Analysis covering the region from 15°N to 35°N, 75°W to 105°W. Issued four times a day at 0000, 0600, 1200, and 1800 UTC.

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Storm Surge? [Re: recmod]
      #39191 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:39 PM

I've been reading this forum all day with interest (despite the fact that I'm not allowed to be on the Internet while at work). Am concerned that Ft. Myers will be in the dread right front quadrant, as the storm passes by to the south and west....

I had a question regarding storm surge. I have an aunt who lives on a canal that leads out to the GOM. How far/close does Dennis have to be before she will feel storm surge effects? The only data I've been able to find regarding storm surge is for a direct hit. Thanks!


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Re: State of Emergency [Re: Colleen A.]
      #39192 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:39 PM

Colleen. A weaker ridge would be bad for Central Florida. A direct hit is unlikely, IMHO. However, It puts us smack dab in some really heavy rain bands along with being in the tornadic quadrant of the storm.

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twizted sizter
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Re: Hurricane Watches up For Keys, Tropical Storm Watch For Southern Florida Dennis [Re: iloathedennis]
      #39193 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:39 PM

Destin is in the cone...if not a direct hit definite potential for bad weather...don't know if you're an out of stater or not but I'm sure you're there for the beach...definitly not good beach weather this weekend.

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Re: Hurricane Watches up For Keys, Tropical Storm Watch For Southern Florida Dennis [Re: iloathedennis]
      #39194 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:41 PM

Hi there everyone. Been just reading and not posting this season. Been a storm tracker since Hurricane Betsy in '65 and always plot and listen to all the broadcasts I can. We had an old forecaster in New Orleans that used the old Marks-A-Lot and poster paper, years ago, to draw his projections of what a particular storm would do. He had some old adages that stuck in my head over the years that more times than not, prove true. One of them was to avoid forecasts of any storm that is going to enter the Gulf of Mexico.

That place has a mind of its own and right now there are few steering currents that I can see. Some small ones, but sometimes when a storm gets to Cat 4 or 5, they do what they want, anyway. I suppose about Sat morning we'll all be up and taking notice, moreso than now. I do know that there are lines at the gas pumps and Wal Mart looks like the day after Thanksgiving sale. Go figure......


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Re: Hurricane Watches up For Keys, Tropical Storm Watch For Southern Florida Dennis [Re: twizted sizter]
      #39195 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:43 PM

As of right now, if the forecast pans out, Destin is not a place to be this weekend. God forbid they take another hit. Who knows what section of road and buildings would be washed away this time.

If I had a trip planned for Destin this weekend, I would probably cancel tomorrow if the forecast continues without a siginifcant jog to the west.

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let\'s chill out
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bull got the herd scared stiff [Re: Kevin]
      #39196 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:45 PM

Once had a very wise commander that once told me:

"son, don't SOIl your shorts until you actually see the enemy".

I think a lot of you central Florida folks are on here too much, scaring yourselves and others silly and using up space that the panhandle folks are gonna need.

I'm in central florida.. I'm ready as possible for anything. You should be too.

Good luck to all along the gulf.


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Re: bull got the herd scared stiff [Re: let\'s chill out]
      #39197 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:48 PM

i have to totally disagree with you...i for one are on here to teach myself things and learn from professionals and the ones who are very knowledgable....its not so much as scaring ourselves but being aware and keeping up to date....

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Re: bull got the herd scared stiff [Re: let\'s chill out]
      #39198 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:50 PM

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Good luck to all along the gulf.




Thankyou! We need all we can get.


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Rick on boat in Mobile
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category 5 before cuba? [Re: FlaMommy]
      #39199 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:51 PM

possible....extremely warm waters...but most likely a strong 4...5's are rare...

probably a 5 when Dennis gets in the gulf....


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Latest Vortex Message [Re: twizted sizter]
      #39200 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:51 PM

VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
Storm Name: Dennis (04L)
Mission Number: 04
Flight ID: AF304
Observation Number: 22
Time: 21:08:30Z
Latitude: 19°N
Longitude: 76.7°W
Location: 75 mi N of Kingston, Jamaica
Minimum height at 700 mb 2726 m
Est. Surface Winds Observed: NA
Distance and bearing from center to max surface wind: NA
Maximum flight level wind: SSE (161°) @ 139 mph
Distance and bearing from center to max flight level wind: 14 mi ENE (75°)
Sea level pressure: 956 mb
Max flight level temperature outside the eye: 45°F at 10023 feet
Max flight level temperature inside the eye: 61°F at 9984 feet
Dewpoint temperature inside the eye: 52°F
Eye character: OPEN N-E
Eye shape: Circular
Eye diameter: 17 mi
Fix determined by: Penetration Radar Wind Pressure Temperature at 700 mb
Navigation / Met Accuracy: 0.05 / 1 nm
MAX FL WIND 121 KT E QUAD 21:04:50 Z

I am not completely sure how to read these things.....but, aren't surface winds usually calculated as 90% of flight level measurements??? If so, this vortex message from 5:08 pm eastern time means that the surface winds are now around 125mph????

Any input from the pros who more fully understand this data would be helpful

--Lou


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Re: bull got the herd scared stiff [Re: let\'s chill out]
      #39201 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:53 PM

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Once had a very wise commander that once told me:

"son, don't SOIl your shorts until you actually see the enemy".

I think a lot of you central Florida folks are on here too much, scaring yourselves and others silly and using up space that the panhandle folks are gonna need.

I'm in central florida.. I'm ready as possible for anything. You should be too.

Good luck to all along the gulf.




Im not scared...really Im not! But if it wasnt for this site I would probably still listen to local mets and think...Tampa is all clear and will not have any impact from Dennis. I do not want to be caught off guard and then it is too late to leave if necesarry. This site is wonderful. These guys and gals know so much more than I and after years of reading and seeing systems nailed then if I read Tampa will get effected then I trust them. I dont think it is over reacting at all.


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