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Kevin
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Next 72 hours are very clear...
      #4518 - Sat Sep 21 2002 03:30 AM

but I'm thinking NHC could be wrong from 36-72 hours. I'd say a slow WNW movement instead of W. After 72 hours, as Avila said, the real trouble begins.

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Bruce
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Re: if it has stalled
      #4519 - Sat Sep 21 2002 03:33 AM

Good one

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Re:Wishcasting etc.
      #4520 - Sat Sep 21 2002 03:33 AM

So that's what happened to peanuts You've been here all along.

I agree with you and I've said much the same in past posts.

We have two things to deal with. One is that we get a lot of anonymous posts from people that are trying to cause trouble or just get a reaction. For that reason I am opposed to anonymous access, but its not my board.

The other is that for just about everyone this can be an emotionally stressful situation, and people say things they probably wouldn't normally say.

I think we all have to be careful what we say and in particular be careful about how we react to others comments.

Bill


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Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore
      #4521 - Sat Sep 21 2002 03:36 AM

jason thanks so 72 hours out hurr centerr thinks north turn plus models also if this think dont speed up cental culf could be in trouble this is going to be close thanks for the info

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Re: Discussion...
      #4522 - Sat Sep 21 2002 03:37 AM

In FrankP's post following yours, the situation is described very accurately (kudos to that TV guy!). The amount of westward drift and the timing of the ejection of that UL over the Bahama's IS the forecast issue. That is what it gonna push it west (if it ever does!), and the replacement of it with high pressure is what will drive Izzy N or NE...which that model data I posted earlier jives with.

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Re:Wishcasting etc.
      #4523 - Sat Sep 21 2002 03:46 AM

I've been taught three things this week:
1)A poster can be accused of being a "wishcaster" if they think the storm might hit them.
2)Some people get mad when they think the storm is going to miss them (this is bad news?) and lash out at the above.
3)Cuban radar really, really, really sucks.

Joe in JAX


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Frank P
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Re:Wishcasting etc.
      #4524 - Sat Sep 21 2002 03:58 AM

good post Joe... let me add a couple of more

stress levels are going to increase tremendously on this board once the system decides who is going to get blasted... people who post on this web page take this stuff quite serious, are very knowledgable, and do a great job overall... yeah there some wishcasting but NO ONE really wants a Cat 3 or 4 to hit them, no one in there right mind...

I'm like Shawn.... sure a smalll weak Cat 1 every now and then is fun and not all that bad, but starting taking about a major... I think not....

everyone is also going to be worn out... we're still days away from landfall and I've been getting about 5 hours of sleep per night the last couple of nights... now what happens when and if it really get serious as far as getting a real threat......

I would tell everyone to get as much rest as they can, but I wouldn't be practicing what I'd be preaching.... so it time to strap on the mojo gang cause it's only going to get worse for some of us.... somewhere


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Re:Wishcasting etc.
      #4525 - Sat Sep 21 2002 04:07 AM

Very well put Frank, It is going to be a long week for many of us ........ EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED

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Speaking of wishcasting
      #4526 - Sat Sep 21 2002 04:11 AM

If you look at http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/nwatl-wv-loop.html long enough, you'd swear Izzy is being pushed backward....

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joepub1
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Re:Wishcasting etc.
      #4527 - Sat Sep 21 2002 04:12 AM

Agree on everything you said. Good time to get ready for the worse, hope for the best. It always was in somebody else's hands anyway.

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Re:Wishcasting etc.
      #4528 - Sat Sep 21 2002 04:14 AM

wth you guys talking about earlier on a N or even NE turn on radar, i been looking at the last 6 hour havana loop and it shows it still moving generall wnw over last 6 hours. Talk about hype and nonsense gees. Also this thing is moving around 7-8 mph. Lets get real, it wont come up to anyone if at all for the next 3 days. Lets watch and make some TRUE insights on what we see and data and links to give out.

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Bruce
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Re:Wishcasting etc.
      #4529 - Sat Sep 21 2002 04:16 AM

Joe, very true!!

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joepub1
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Re:Wishcasting etc.
      #4530 - Sat Sep 21 2002 04:31 AM

See above comment on Cuban radar. Maybe Fidal WANTS them to think it's moving WNW?
Anyway, Key West long range radar site hasn't updated in over an hour? I think I'll go get some sleep. My eyes are spinning counter-clockwise.
Good night everybody.
Joe in Jax
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troy2
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Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore
      #4531 - Sat Sep 21 2002 04:33 AM

In reply to:

AFDEYW

FLORIDA KEYS AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE KEY WEST FL
1011 PM EDT FRI SEP 20 2002

. WINDS OVER THE AREA HAVE BEEN GENERALLY ESE
OVER THE AREA THIS EVENING...A BIT HIGHER OVER WESTERN
PORTIONS...NEARER IRENE...WHERE THEY'RE RUNNING AROUND 20 TO 25 KT
OVER THE WATER AND AROUND 20 MPH ON THE ISLANDS. WINDS OFFSHORE THE
MIDDLE AND UPPER KEYS ARE AROUND 15 TO 20 KT.





Can tell those guys are tired...Irene was mentioned in place of Izzy.
well its bed time...no more 5 hours of sleep for me...well for now atleast


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Bruce
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Re:Wishcasting etc.
      #4532 - Sat Sep 21 2002 04:34 AM

Frank you got it. Some of us do get into this. Over the last 3 season or so, I've seen some pretty hot "Debates" on this site. It's the best.

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PaulyAce2002
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Re:Wishcasting etc.
      #4533 - Sat Sep 21 2002 04:34 AM

TWC had up on its 11pm "Drifting Northwestward"...

Now of course I don't trust TWC that much, but tomorrow is another day..


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Re:Wishcasting etc.
      #4534 - Sat Sep 21 2002 04:41 AM

speaking of TWC, Im watching the sat images...anyone notice Isidore getting smaller?

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troy2
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92l
      #4535 - Sat Sep 21 2002 04:42 AM

92l is lookin better tonight. Maybe it will give us another swirl to stare at.
troy
ok now its bedtime, for real this time

Edited by troy2 (Sat Sep 21 2002 04:43 AM)


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Frank P
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Re: Speaking of wishcasting
      #4536 - Sat Sep 21 2002 04:43 AM

Richard I've been watching the IR loop and I can't detect if its moving or not... deep white convection not moving but I'm not sure where the eye is.... hard to tell... could be stationary but I'm not sure... I'm getting delirious and need some sleep...

Bruce... gotta love it dude....


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jlauderdal
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Re: Speaking of wishcasting
      #4537 - Sat Sep 21 2002 04:46 AM

Its not moving!! Time to turn out attention to the East..we have a player out there!

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