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MapMaster
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Re: Dust [Re: Lake Toho - Kissimmee]
      #45326 - Mon Jul 25 2005 01:53 PM

Thanks Toho, I was going to say the same....this is not an unusual, or unusually strong episode, of this phenomena. Unfortunately, media who don't know better act like it is something new! A local paper in N Fl actually ran a story that led readers to conclude that Florida was about to have sandstorm/duststorm.

MM


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damejune2
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Re: Tropical Storm Gert forms in the Bay of Campeche, Franklin Moves Out [Re: joepub1]
      #45327 - Mon Jul 25 2005 01:53 PM

Oh, sorry if we were off topic, but i thought we were talking about the tropics? We were discussing whether or not Franklin will make a loop back towards the Bahamas and Florida. I was wondering why some said it was moving SW when the updates still have it going ENE. We figured we would wait till the 5pm comes out and see what they say.

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Gloria 1985 (Eye passed over my house in...get this...northwestern CT!)


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ftlaudbob
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Re: Tropical Storm Gert forms in the Bay of Campeche, Franklin Moves Out [Re: damejune2]
      #45328 - Mon Jul 25 2005 01:53 PM

LATE BREAKING NEWS SINCE THE
ADVISORY WAS TRANSMITTED...THE AIRCRAFT JUST REPORTED A CENTRAL
PRESSURE NEAR 1000 MB...SO THE CYCLONE COULD BE A LITTLE STRONGER
THAN WE WERE ESTIMATING.

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Survived:
Gloria,Bob,Katrina,Wilma and a bunch of tropical storms.


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damejune2
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Re: Tropical Storm Gert forms in the Bay of Campeche, Franklin Moves Out [Re: ftlaudbob]
      #45329 - Mon Jul 25 2005 01:55 PM

Hey Bob - I like your signature. Sox fan all my life! Anyway, back to the tropics. What do you think Franklin will do? I see it going NE or E and out to sea and dissipating in 72-96 hrs.

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Gloria 1985 (Eye passed over my house in...get this...northwestern CT!)


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MapMaster
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Re:Frankliin [Re: Margie]
      #45330 - Mon Jul 25 2005 01:55 PM

Lets not be obstreperous!(sp?)

Smile

MM


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ftlaudbob
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Re: Tropical Storm Gert forms in the Bay of Campeche, Franklin Moves Out [Re: damejune2]
      #45331 - Mon Jul 25 2005 01:58 PM

Quote:

Hey Bob - I like your signature. Sox fan all my life! Anyway, back to the tropics. What do you think Franklin will do? I see it going NE or E and out to sea and dissipating in 72-96 hrs.


I love all Red Sox fans!I am not worried about Franklin,but it is a good storm to study........very interesting stuff.

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Gloria,Bob,Katrina,Wilma and a bunch of tropical storms.


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pedro
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Re: Tropical Storm Gert forms in the Bay of Campeche, Franklin Moves Out [Re: MikeC]
      #45332 - Mon Jul 25 2005 01:59 PM

Franklin appears to be getting stornger than it was this morning and pressure is dropping

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Lisa NC
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Re: Tropical Storm Gert forms in the Bay of Campeche, Franklin Moves Out [Re: damejune2]
      #45333 - Mon Jul 25 2005 02:00 PM

If you watch the vis sat loop, and place your mouse at center of cir, you will see the sw movement.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/float2-vis-loop.html

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MapMaster
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Re:E quad max winds= westward movement? [Re: NewWatcher]
      #45334 - Mon Jul 25 2005 02:03 PM

No, the HH aircraft does an X diagram flying across the storm, back and forth....they check each quadrant.....they indicate the max winds in each quad, one of which will end up (sometimes) being THE max wind...however, the observation of max winds has nothing to do with movement, other than, in a well organized storm, THE max winds will usually be in the 'right front' quandrant, which could be on different compass bearings, based on the actual movement of the storm.

If Franklin were (or is) moving SW, the right front quadrant would be the NW quadrant....however, the way Franklin is actually organized, I think most of the wind is east and s of the center.

He clearly is intensifying and becoming better organized, though.

MM


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Re: Tropical Storm Gert forms in the Bay of Campeche, Franklin Moves Out [Re: damejune2]
      #45335 - Mon Jul 25 2005 02:03 PM

damejune2:

Near the equator, from about 5 north and 5 south, the northeast trade winds and southeast trade winds converge in a low pressure zone known as the Intertropical Convergence Zone or ITCZ. Solar heating in the region forces air to rise through convection which results in a plethora of precipitation. The ITCZ is a key component of the global circulation system.
Weather stations in the equatorial region experience precipitation up to 200 days each year, making the equatorial and ITC zones the wettest on the planet. The equatorial region lacks a dry season and is constantly hot and humid.
The location of the ITCZ varies throughout the year and while it remains near the equator, the ITCZ over land ventures farther north or south than the ITCZ over the oceans due to the variation in land temperatures. The location of the ITCZ can vary as much as 40 to 45 of latitude north or south of the equator based on the pattern of land and ocean.
In Africa, the ITCZ is located just south of the Sahel at about 10, dumping rain on the region to the south of the desert.
The Intertropical Convergence Zone has been called the doldrums by sailors due to the lack of horizontal air movement (the air simply rises with convection). The ITCZ is also known as the Equatorial Convergence Zone or Intertropical Front.
There's a diurnal cycle to the precipitation in the ITCZ. Clouds form in the late morning and early afternoon hours and then by 3 to 4 p.m., the hottest time of the day, convectional thunderstorms form and precipitation begins.

If anyone has a problem with the grammer, blame Matt T. Rosenberg. He wrote it!


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MapMaster
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Re: Tropical Storm Gert forms in the Bay of Campeche, Franklin Moves Out [Re: Lisa NC]
      #45336 - Mon Jul 25 2005 02:09 PM

Put the lat/long lines in and the projected track overlay, and you can see that he is making a small counterclockwise loop (cycloid). Also, looks like any intensification is on hold, as the convection is shearing away again.

He is actually moving SSE at the moment as he moves through the loop.

MM


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ShanaTX
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Re: Tropical Storm Gert forms in the Bay of Campeche, Franklin Moves Out [Re: MapMaster]
      #45338 - Mon Jul 25 2005 02:35 PM

So it still looks like Bermuda will be the last land Franklin could affect? Hopefully he will lurch far enough away that they don't have a problem with him.

I'm kinda surprised he's lasted this long, and even more surprised that the hurricane hunter plane found that the pressure is now 1000 - slightly stronger than before...


Maybe Franklin is hanging around till TD8 shows up... he doesn't want us getting complacent...


'shana


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HanKFranK
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franklin stuck/waves coming down the pipeline [Re: MapMaster]
      #45339 - Mon Jul 25 2005 02:38 PM

franklin is hung in a no-mans land west of bermuda. doing another cycloidal jig-bob like last night; strangely the storm's pressure has fallen to it's lowest point this morning even though the storm is severely sheared. northerly shear doesn't hurt tropical cyclones the way southwesterly shear does... when they're stuck. hard to say which set of models is right.. some are still holding it put for 24 hrs or so and then sliding some of the ridging from that huge upper high over the eastern u.s. overhead and backing it west... others taking it north or northeast. most aren't hardly moving franklin for the next 24, so it'll probably stay within 100 miles of 31/70 for the time being. since the storm will likely linger for the next few days, it's likely that we'll have another cyclone active.
the wave near 55w right now isn't very perky and there's no model support for it to deepen... the gyre has almost completely spun down now. twd has a weak low with it again, but probably no dice. i thought this would develop a few days back... didn't work. back near 32w a substantial wave with a low on its axis is plugging west.. drawing in subsidence like the one before it, but not nearly as much. a number of models are developing this one... it has a good chance to make harvey. of the globals have a weakness in the east atlantic and have tried turning it up.. probably rubbish. there should be some decent ridging across the basin for this one... weakness lingering near the atlantic seaboard for the next few days before backing inland. we'll see. another wave is just coming off.. looks rambunctions, too. some of the globals have a cutoff low in the east atlantic subtropics late this week/weekend... that'll have to be watched also if it verifies (fish spinner fodder).
with that wave chain over africa the first two weeks of august look to have a couple more systems in the offing.
HF 1937z25july


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scottsvb
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Re: franklin stuck/waves coming down the pipeline [Re: HanKFranK]
      #45341 - Mon Jul 25 2005 03:02 PM

Anyone watch JB video?? Mine seems to be stuck on his landfall points. Anyone else? zzzzzzzzzzzz

Edited by scottsvb (Mon Jul 25 2005 03:03 PM)


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NewWatcher
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Re: franklin stuck/waves coming down the pipeline [Re: scottsvb]
      #45342 - Mon Jul 25 2005 03:11 PM

I just watched it yes, whatcha wanna know?

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Pam in Volusia County

According to Colleen A ... "I AM A HURRICANE FREAK"
2007 Predictions 16/9/6


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schmoo
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OT question -- NHC Forecasters [Re: NewWatcher]
      #45343 - Mon Jul 25 2005 03:14 PM

Sorry this is off topic...
I am curious if being an NHC forecaster is considered an esteemed position in meterology.

Thanks!


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scottsvb
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Re: franklin stuck/waves coming down the pipeline [Re: NewWatcher]
      #45344 - Mon Jul 25 2005 03:14 PM

I guess its my comp at home here. I dont get to see more then the first min of it. I hear the rest but his screen is stuck on lanfall points. Maybe jbs video is stuck. Watch again and let me know or anyone who recently watched it.

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NewWatcher
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Re: franklin stuck/waves coming down the pipeline [Re: scottsvb]
      #45345 - Mon Jul 25 2005 03:15 PM

Yes i just watched it, and it was fine for me, just 4 or 5 mins ago.

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Pam in Volusia County

According to Colleen A ... "I AM A HURRICANE FREAK"
2007 Predictions 16/9/6


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Ryan
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GERT [Re: NewWatcher]
      #45346 - Mon Jul 25 2005 03:25 PM

could Gert re-emerge and become an EPAC storm?

No. It's already dissipated across central Mexico; it'd have to move SW across some of the highest terrain on the continent to even make it to a region in the Pacific that might support something. --Clark

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2006 Atlantic Season Summary:
Bad, But Not AS Bad.

Life's a Storm, Watch Your Back

Edited by Clark (Mon Jul 25 2005 07:48 PM)


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damejune2
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Re: franklin stuck/waves coming down the pipeline [Re: NewWatcher]
      #45347 - Mon Jul 25 2005 03:42 PM

Where can i view the JB video?

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Gloria 1985 (Eye passed over my house in...get this...northwestern CT!)


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