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Disaster Master
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Re: Superdome [Re: Ryan]
      #52080 - Mon Aug 29 2005 10:27 AM

26.750 people in Super Dome. Even during a Saints home game it only sits 54000 . Hundreds of thousands in not a correct statement.

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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: MikeC]
      #52081 - Mon Aug 29 2005 10:27 AM

Quote:

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Confirmed levee break as well..at the French quarter...one of the worst fears confirmed.

ETA...Age you beat me to it..yes he's still down there.




I'm hearing this too from another source. But anyone have any clue as to severity?




Is this really a levee BREAK? or do they really mean a breech? There would be a big difference I think.


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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: SEFL]
      #52082 - Mon Aug 29 2005 10:31 AM

Break / Breech a Structural leeve would break. Most of the breeches are in the dirt leeves. Extent of flooding is unknown until weather clears.

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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: Disaster Master]
      #52083 - Mon Aug 29 2005 10:33 AM

Fox says it is a break, with 8 ft. of water all around there.

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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: SEFL]
      #52084 - Mon Aug 29 2005 10:33 AM

downtown Mobile is under water.. as much as 12' of water is covering downtown from Mobile Bay.

Reported by WKRG


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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: NewWatcher]
      #52085 - Mon Aug 29 2005 10:35 AM

By structural im talking about something that was engineered. like a log leeve in the 1800's. or an engineered concrete leeve/dam now days. Most of the protection for N.O. is in the form of Dirt leeves.

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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: Disaster Master]
      #52086 - Mon Aug 29 2005 10:42 AM

Disastmast, that's awful news to hear. Even if all the pumps were working it sounds like they couldnt't pump as fast as the water is coming in...and there may be no place to pump it.

As the eye wall comes ashore in western coastal MS, reported 100+mph all along coast to Biloxi, 90+ gust in Pascagoula, TS winds in Hattiesburg.

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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: RedingtonBeachGuy]
      #52087 - Mon Aug 29 2005 10:44 AM

MOBILE BAY WEB CAM
looks like hell!

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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: Disaster Master]
      #52088 - Mon Aug 29 2005 10:45 AM

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By structural im talking about something that was engineered. like a log leeve in the 1800's. or an engineered concrete leeve/dam now days. Most of the protection for N.O. is in the form of Dirt leeves.




Shepard Smith on the phone was reporting from Bourbon Street and said there was no flooding. I saw a visual that said there was a "break" in the levee at Lake Ponchatrain---that I don't believe.


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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: Disaster Master]
      #52089 - Mon Aug 29 2005 10:46 AM

Dirt leeves in several area are being breeched (breeches is when water flows over the top of leeve).
Have not heard about any breaks in structural leeves around pump facilitys. Bay-St.Loius is now in the eye.
Bilouxi will feel the eye wall pretty soon. Im waiting on a call from Bathesda Md. regarding flooding estimates up to this point. will update.


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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: SEFL]
      #52090 - Mon Aug 29 2005 10:48 AM

just wondering...has anyone heard from frank p? i sent him a pm yesterday with my phone #, but i don't think he ever got it...

at work now, so no tv, but on the radio things sound really bad...any new reports on flooding in NO, biloxi & mobile?

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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: native]
      #52091 - Mon Aug 29 2005 10:49 AM

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Confirmed: Beaux Rivage casino has water coming in through 2nd floor windows!!

GOD BLESS THEM ALL.




For those who don't know... the Beau Rivage is a casino in Biloxi, MS. I am afraid that with all the focus on LA and NO... deserved of course... that people are not completely aware of the slamming that Biloxi is getting.

I've been to the Beau Rivage and other casinos there... Most are on the waterfront and Treasure Bay actually sits on the water...

Wish we had more reports from there...

Also, it is strange to hear SOME reports that Katrina is "only" a CAT 3 now... hmmmm... shows perspective sometimes alters our verbiage... ONLY and CAT3 don't belong together in my book!! <g>


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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: Disaster Master]
      #52092 - Mon Aug 29 2005 10:51 AM

Maybe ill just stay off the conference calls with FEMA and watch fox news
Reports are scattered and not all are confirmed.


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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: StormKrone]
      #52093 - Mon Aug 29 2005 10:59 AM

Looks like my brother in Pascagoula was trying to call me on a land line, it said the number was unavailable, but the connection only lasted a couple seconds and I haven't been able to get him back on his cell. It says all the circuits are busy but that could also mean the cell phone towers down there. They've had a lot of wind.

There hasn't been much info at all about the situation with regards to flooding in Jackson Cty but it sounds like Biloxi got quite a bit of flooding, also the highest rainfall on the coast so far as peaked at Biloxi. I heard Hwy 90 under 7 feet of water.

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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: Disaster Master]
      #52094 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:01 AM

Remember that most of the information being given right now is .. subject to change and updates.

Radars are down in New Orleans and Slidell.

Reports of deaths are unconfirmed and reports of confirmed deaths will come in and in like the tide.

Thanks for the coverage here.. watching like everyone on TV on every channel back and forth

Home today because the library where I work STILL DOESNT HAVE ELECTRIC ...4 days after Katrina hit North Miami Beach.

So.... lost more money but.. watching history being made here.
Oh..and school is STILL OUT in Miami Dade where the movie stars danced at the Arena which did have power and showed a picture of Miami that says to places up north.. Come On Down.

Amazing how this hurricane is hitting several states at the same time and readjusting the reality that only Florida gets hit by hurricanes that was prevalent last year.

Hopefully everyone living in any area from Texas to Maine that can be affected by an Atlantic Cane is reading this board carefully and learning how to prepare.. because it can happen anywhere.

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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: Margie]
      #52095 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:02 AM

I have heard the same thing about 90. hwy 90 in gulfport area is partially washed out. 7foot of water and the eye wall is just now getting to bilouxi.

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Re: Hurricane Katrina Makes Landfall in SE Louisiana as a Category 4 Storm [Re: MikeC]
      #52096 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:05 AM

Sitting in the dark in very west Mobile, AL (almost to the Mississippi boarder). Only one tree down so far - it landed on my fence that just got fixed from Ivan. Some of my neighbors have lost pieces of roof. I've got water all over in my attic. It seems my ridge vents have failed.

I've only got about 3 hours of battery time let. I had forgotten how painfully slow dialup was.

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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: LoisCane]
      #52097 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:07 AM

Pascagoula has frequent wind gusts 70-90mph right now. Gusts in the 60s in MOB, 120-125 Gulfport-Biloxi.

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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: Disaster Master]
      #52098 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:11 AM

The biggest worry with the dirt levees being breeched/ broken is that erosion then takes over exacerbating the damage ten fold, and unless there is a large team with the necesarry equipment the whole lot could be washed away

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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: Disaster Master]
      #52099 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:11 AM

Shephard Smith reporting listening to emergency radios & reports of people on their roofs ????? because the flooding in their homes is so bad...lesser of 2 evils? Couldn't imagine.

Officals did confirm a levee on the lake did break...expect flooding south of the French Quarter.


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