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ralphfl
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Re: Katrina Aftermath [Re: LisaMaria65]
      #52364 - Tue Aug 30 2005 02:14 AM

I don't think they were ever out of the cone all of that area was in the cone as far as the NHC track was concered.

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Big Red Machine
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Re: Katrina Aftermath [Re: MikeC]
      #52365 - Tue Aug 30 2005 02:19 AM

Mike, that levee breach with floodwaters rising is bad news. With all of the facts out there now, I am unsure why the news is not painting the true picture. It's not like this is internet conjecture either, its comments from the MAYOR of New Orleans. Scary.

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Big Red Machine
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OH NO [Re: Big Red Machine]
      #52366 - Tue Aug 30 2005 02:31 AM



OH NO.

Just confirmed on CNN. 2 block long levee breach unable to hold back Lk Ponch. Water rising an inch every 5 minutes. almost to 2nd story of Tulane Medical Center. WHITECAPS ON CANAL STREET. Tulane Medical Center may have to evacuate 1000 patients by air. Another hospital in process of evacuation by air. CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT NOW IN JEOPARDY.



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ralphfl
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Re: OH NO [Re: Big Red Machine]
      #52367 - Tue Aug 30 2005 02:34 AM

Did the lady not say that it was the second floor they had to evac from what i heard it was the second floor only.
Never heard her say 1000 just the second floor

And the other hospital had 90 they had to air vac

Edited by ralphfl (Tue Aug 30 2005 02:36 AM)


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Big Red Machine
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Re: OH NO [Re: Big Red Machine]
      #52368 - Tue Aug 30 2005 02:35 AM

I don't believe it. Barring a miracle stop... I can't imagine.
THIS MAY BE OUR WORST CASE SCENARIO.



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Big Red Machine
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Re: OH NO [Re: ralphfl]
      #52369 - Tue Aug 30 2005 02:36 AM

She said they would have to start evacuating because the generators are on the second floor. NOT JUST SECOND FLOOR. possible evacuation of entire hospital. If this breech is not fixed perhaps the water pressure will cause more breeches? and then...

Without generators hospital loses power and people on ventilators will die.

I hope I can come back on in 2 hours and realize I was being hysterical. I fear not.

Edited by Big Red Machine (Tue Aug 30 2005 02:37 AM)


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Re: OH NO [Re: Big Red Machine]
      #52370 - Tue Aug 30 2005 02:37 AM

But she never said 1k people the only number she stated was the 90 from the other hospital.

Edited by ralphfl (Tue Aug 30 2005 02:39 AM)


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Re: OH NO [Re: ralphfl]
      #52371 - Tue Aug 30 2005 02:39 AM

She said there were 1000 people in the hospital. Most are serious cases, so they need electricity. While perhaps all 1k may not have to evacuate, many will. Helicopter is the only way out she said. Trucks/ambulances/cars cannot reach hospital.

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Re: OH NO [Re: Big Red Machine]
      #52372 - Tue Aug 30 2005 02:40 AM

yah she said none could be taken out by boat.

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Big Red Machine
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Re: OH NO [Re: ralphfl]
      #52373 - Tue Aug 30 2005 02:41 AM

Maybe it's not as bad as I originally thought. I hope not. But from the interview (VP of the Tulane Medical Center) she sounded deadly serious.

Why isn't this on tv right now? Mods, I realize I've broken just about every rule the past few minutes, but it is my impression from this interview that the medical center is in dire straits. I KNOW this isn't incorrect info, the VP on Tulane Medical Center was on CNN saying waters were rising "faster than you can imagine." 1 inch every 5 mins. They had no flooding during the storm. This is all due to the breach. If I am wrong, please someone correct me.

Ralph, I really did just see that, right?? Did you see the interview too?

Edited by Big Red Machine (Tue Aug 30 2005 02:47 AM)


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Re: OH NO [Re: Big Red Machine]
      #52374 - Tue Aug 30 2005 02:48 AM

My mom just woke me up after seeing this on CNN.... I don't understand why the levvee at the 17th street canal broke now, not earlier, but yes, this is terrible.

It's not just the hospital that's in danger here... it's the whole CBD.

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Re: OH NO [Re: Big Red Machine]
      #52375 - Tue Aug 30 2005 02:49 AM

Okay I've been looking on other boards. Other people saw this too. I don't know why it's not on tv or the major sites yet. From another board I found this info.

That hospital is two blocks west of Canal Street, which borders the western side of the French Quarter and is five blocks east of the Superdome.

Guys if they can't fix this, things could get much, much worse.


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Re: OH NO [Re: Terra]
      #52376 - Tue Aug 30 2005 02:50 AM

Thank you Terra. This is CATASTROPHIC. This is occuring at night too, so people could be asleep with no way of knowing.

Why is this NOT on tv? This is outrageous

Edited by Big Red Machine (Tue Aug 30 2005 02:57 AM)


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Re: OH NO [Re: Big Red Machine]
      #52377 - Tue Aug 30 2005 02:57 AM

It is that 1 area which is buildings and the people that it is affecting is the ones in the hospital you heard it right but trust me they know about it there im sure.




Edited by ralphfl (Tue Aug 30 2005 02:58 AM)


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Re: OH NO [Re: ralphfl]
      #52378 - Tue Aug 30 2005 02:59 AM

Here is the only other info I can find. It's the first entry.
Flooding
The CBD appears to be in grave danger.


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Re: OH NO [Re: ralphfl]
      #52379 - Tue Aug 30 2005 02:59 AM

Going to bed just hope they get those people air vaced out if they need to but they were told by the police so the proper people im sure know about it.

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Re: OH NO [Re: ralphfl]
      #52380 - Tue Aug 30 2005 03:02 AM

I'm not a big blame the media guy. I think they usually do a pretty decent job. But they have blown this completely. New Orleans dodged nothing. Especially with this latest breach. I can't believe they are not showing this.

I guess I better go to bed too Ralph.

Thousands will die from this breach. Flooding at night while people sleep and have been told the worst is over. Catostrophic.

To top it off the media is fiddling while New Orleans is drowning. "Dewe Defeats Truman." The worst case really looks to finally becoming true.

Edited by Big Red Machine (Tue Aug 30 2005 03:21 AM)


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Re: OH NO [Re: Big Red Machine]
      #52381 - Tue Aug 30 2005 03:10 AM

This isn't over yet. Relaxing rules for info like this.

Edit: Tulane Hospital, not university


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Re: OH NO [Re: MikeC]
      #52382 - Tue Aug 30 2005 03:15 AM

From cnn.com a minute ago:

A levee holding back water sustains a two-block wide breach in New Orleans. Details soon.

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Me, or your damn lying eyes?
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mojorox
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Re: OH NO [Re: Big Red Machine]
      #52383 - Tue Aug 30 2005 03:15 AM

I saw it too. The mayor mentioned it but the interview with Tulane showed that there may be big trouble if the water is rising this fast. If they have patients on ventilators they have to have electricity unless they have a large staff of people in there to bag them manually. I hope what I am fearing does not come to pass. I have a real bad feeling about this.
On edit
I emailed cnn as a citizen journalist and directed them to the mayor of NO's interview. I don't know if anyone will read the email but dang.

Edited by mojorox (Tue Aug 30 2005 03:16 AM)


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