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Rick
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Re: lotsa rain
      #5391 - Thu Sep 26 2002 02:32 AM

Yup! Lily's a persistant little gal, ain't she! Got a drive to survive! I don't think she's finished yet!

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Carl
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Re: lotsa rain
      #5392 - Thu Sep 26 2002 03:22 AM

The NHC deserves a lot of credit for their landfall forecast of Izzy. They pretty much nailed the landfall in SE LA. I complain about them all the time (and still don't think they measure up to the days of Neil Frank), but they got this one right and should be commended. Too bad the same can't be said for the Weather Channel--hopeless since John Hope is gone. Steve Lyons is probably trying to turn Izzy towards Mobile in his sleep right about now. BTW, what did the lake look like today Steve?

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Frank P
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Biloxi Getting Pounded Right now 2:30 am CDT
      #5393 - Thu Sep 26 2002 03:40 AM

Just came back from the beach... Gee I had to walk across the street... (nearly arrested by Biloxi's finest)

This is the highest tide I've seen in Biloxi since Camille.... Gulf water was at the sea wall in front of my house approaching the second step... (three total).... I've never seen it hit the second step... may get into HWY 90 before its done... I guarantee that there are many areas of HWY 90 in MS under water right now.... along with a plethora of businesses....this has to be at least 8 feet above sea level... maybe 9

Large sections of piers were floating everywhere hitting the seawall... probably from casinos.. street lights still on, what an unbelievable sight....

Treasure Bay Casino broken loose from morings... being held in check with cables

Large section of East end of Biloxi under water... mandatory evacuations.

Even Elena with her 100+ winds DID NOT PUT TIDE THIS HIGH AT SEAWALL AT MY HOUSE....((first step)

This storm is going to do much greater damage than was anticipated....

Winds have to be 50+ with gusts to 60....

Going back to the beach..... will post an update if I return.. hehe and still have power....

Edited by Frank P (Thu Sep 26 2002 03:42 AM)


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Dan
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Izzy
      #5394 - Thu Sep 26 2002 03:47 AM

Check out this radar. The eye (or whatever it is now) is over land according to this radar.

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/radar/loop/DS.p20-r/si.klix.shtml


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Rick
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Loc: Wisconsin
Re: Izzy
      #5395 - Thu Sep 26 2002 04:05 AM

Wow! That's a dead on bullseye!

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Anonymous
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Hey Scottsvb...
      #5396 - Thu Sep 26 2002 04:07 AM

Think it was all hype? Check out this list of closings as of 8:52pm. Keep in mind these are only major routes listed. Almost every street in town has some water in it. Totals will end up 12-17" in spots. I don't know how many homes were flooded, but it's probably in the hundreds or thousands. All that will come out in reports tomorrow. If I can find a link to some good pictures, I'll post it.

Orleans Parish Closures/Impassable Roads:

Downman Road and Haynes Boulevard underpass
Chef Menteur Highway and Downman Road
Canal Boulevard from Navarre Avenue to Florida Boulevard
Conti Street at City Park Avenue
Dwyer and Crowder boulevards
Earhart Expressway
Camp Street Exit
Lakeshore Drive
I-10 at Metairie Road
Pontchartrain Expressway and Claiborne Avenue
I-10 and Louisa
I 6-10 and Paris Avenue entrance
2900 Tulane Avenue
100-200 blocks of Baronne
1500 block of Canal Street
Annunciation and Magazine
Earhart from Claiborne Avenue to Simon Bolivar
100 block of Burgundy
Julia Street from Camp to the river
Conti and Royal
Carrollton Avenue from St. Charles to Claiborne
3200 and 3400 block of Tulane Avenue
LaSalle and Poydras
Most of the Downtown Development District
MacArthur Blvd. From Holiday to Kabel
General DeGaulle from Holiday to the Crescent City Connection

Jefferson Parish Closures:
Old Hammond Highway Bridge over 17th Street Canal
Highway 45 floodgate at north side of Jean Lafitte Park
Destrehan Avenue at floodgate
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You get the idea. Most of the city is still impassible. This is a flooding event that's been going on for about 12 hours. That's pretty intense if you ask me - not just hype.

Tomorrow there should be some major stream/river flooding in St. Tammany Parish (Northshore) into Southern MS. It will get worse as the rivers crest toward the weekend.

http://www.nola.com/hurricane/gallery_index.ssf

That's a link to some photo galleries, but doesn't really focus on how it was in the city. I'll try to find those on another spite.

Steve


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Anonymous
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Here are some more good photos...
      #5397 - Thu Sep 26 2002 04:14 AM

http://www.wwltv.com/local/slideshow4/slideshow01.htm

If the link doesn't work, just go to WWLTV.com and click, "View Images from Flooding." WWLTV.com pretty much otherwise sucks as they require registration to read everything. But the images are in unregistered domain.

Steve


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WXMAN RICHIE
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ISIDORE
      #5398 - Thu Sep 26 2002 04:59 AM

Hi Steve,

5 a.m. center of Isidore 20 miles SW of New Orleans moving north at 16 mph. Should be right over YOUR house at 6 a.m. Stay dry.


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Anonymous
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Thanks Richie...
      #5399 - Thu Sep 26 2002 05:17 AM

It's all good. Rain's picking back up again.

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/radar/loop/DS.p37cr/si.klix.shtml

As you can see (4:10CDT), there is another band cutting across now. I think we'll get another 3-5" before the eye is out of here. The worst case for the city would be for Isidore to stall for a couple of hours. As you can see from the radar image (3:14-3:54), the center looks more like just east of Houma than 20 miles SW of NO. It didn't move too much during that sequence (not N 16/hour as TPC has repoted anyway. Tomorrow's a washout. I'm going to dry my rockports and the inside of my car when the rain finally stops. Work owes me some cleanup time since they're responsible me having to do it to begin with
Steve


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57497479
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Re: Here are some more good photos...
      #5400 - Thu Sep 26 2002 06:07 AM

Thoughts and prayers go out to everyone that is feeling the brunt of Izzy.
The slide show was un believable. Thank God Izzy was tamed down before comming ashore.
Toni

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It pays no attention to criticism

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Bruce
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Loc: Palm Bay, Florida
Re: Here are some more good photos...
      #5401 - Thu Sep 26 2002 06:38 AM

Boy, have you got some rain out of this 12 to 14 inches and still raining Good luck!

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Floridacane
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Loc: Palm Bay, Florida
Re: Here are some more good photos...
      #5402 - Thu Sep 26 2002 07:56 AM

Rick in Mobile, How are you hanging in there? Weather Channel just stated a tornado near Mobile, just checking in, hope your ok!

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What's brewin' everyone?
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Southern4sure
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Mobile update
      #5403 - Thu Sep 26 2002 09:48 AM

torrential rains, high winds, roads closed due to flooding, trees blown over, half the city is closed, and we have hours to go.

Just heard of a tornado spotted.

I think I would rather have the eye over me.......


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Frank P
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Biloxi update
      #5404 - Thu Sep 26 2002 11:07 AM

Pressure 29.19mb, winds ~45-50 mph at 9:30

Tide has gone down at least 2 -3 feet since high tide at 1:30 am.

Treasure Bay Casino suffered considerable damage... both main access entrance piers gone..

MS Coast Colliseum pier ~300 ft... gone... Colliseum is one mile from my house to the east... about 150 ft of the pier (in broken up sections about 10-15 feet in length) is lying next to the sea wall right in front of my house... I sat in my lawn chair in my front yard at edge of HWY 90 during the height of the tidal surge and watched large sections of the pier smashing into one another in the surf... quite a sight .... we have not gotten much rain at my house since early this morning, just wind and high tides...

Had this system been delayed another 24 hours it could have been a whole lot worse.... I'm sure for many, esp in NO it was bad enough.... most of the many rivers in the area are all expected to crest sometime tomorrow well above flood stage (4-6 feet)


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HanKFranK
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up the coast..
      #5405 - Thu Sep 26 2002 11:11 AM

breeze and showers here in tallahassee so far. cloud deck is maybe 1500' and moving along fairly quickly. was kind of hoping we'd get a rainband to kick the wind up some, that hasnt come through yet.
this morning.. lili is looking better again. very finicky storm. i would say that it looks as convectively organized as i've ever seen it, but unsure of the exact center, even on visibles. dont think it's open, though.. looks closed. right around 15/72.
kyle is going to be interesting to watch. according to modeling it starts meandering south and weakening next few days. 72 hr out it is a tropical storm and near 25/60.. with the ridging in the east i dare say that if it survives the rough period it will start working it's way towards the east coast.
underneath and west of kyle, lili will probably be trying something. modeling has taken it over to the gulf mostly, or maybe central america. barring the global model idea that it nudges north to the bahamas and then comes east, most likely will be meandering by cuba and the NW caribbean early next week.
11am stuff is probably issued now. probably no big changes.
HF 1513z26september


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Anonymous
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Well...
      #5406 - Thu Sep 26 2002 11:29 AM

Hope you are all staying safe and dry along the gulf coast....looks like you folks in the Tennessee Valley are gonna get a good dump as well. Hang in there...

As for Lili, the NHC has issued its last advisory for now. The storm has dissipated into a remnant low. Its hilarious to me, as a hurricane newbie, that as I look at the visible and the IR, I see a rotation beginning, and convection flaring around a "center,".....it looks better organized to me than it has in days! And yet, it is now now longer anyting but a low, which "may" regenerate. Shows you how much I know.

Still, I am going with the UKMET and the NOGAPS. This thing is gonna wind itself up, and head wnw, turn nw, and cross into the bahamas as a minimal hurricane. We will see.


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Brett
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Re: Well...
      #5407 - Thu Sep 26 2002 11:30 AM

Didn't mean to be anon there. Last post was from me.

Brett
Miami


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Rasvar
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Re: Well...
      #5408 - Thu Sep 26 2002 12:11 PM

Lili sure is looking like she wants tos be Izzy's twin sister.

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Anonymous
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Re: Well...
      #5409 - Thu Sep 26 2002 12:13 PM

Agree Brett, she looks better now and the forecast track moving it to the SW of Jamaica is hosed. If anything she's (or the wave) moving 315 degrees now. Again as was thinking the same thing, NOGAPS and UKMET may have this right on. NOGAPS develops a stronger system though. If it gets into the bahamas the ridge will pull it westward. Let's watch! CHeers!! Steve H.

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Anonymous
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Correction
      #5410 - Thu Sep 26 2002 12:22 PM

UKMET has a stronger Lili not the NOGAPS. Sorry. Cheers!! Steve H.

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