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Ophelia Moves Away For Now
      #54463 - Fri Sep 09 2005 09:51 PM

Saturday - 6PM Update
Ophelia just about stationary, however, west northwesterly wind shear and drier air are doing a number on the convection on the west side of the hurricane and could expose the low level center this evening. No change to the NHC Hurricane Watch.
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Saturday - Noon Update
Ophelia is a hurricane again and a Hurricane Watch has been issued for portions of the South Carolina and North Carolina coast. See my comments in the Resident Meteorologist Discussions Forum for details.
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Ophelia has begun to move away from the Florida coastline, to the north. The loop around back to the US is still expected, but is now more likely for the South Carolina coastline, although all areas in the southeast coast will want to watch this system over the next few days.



The storm weakened back to a Tropical Storm yesterday evening and is now back to Hurricane Status this evening. Conditions will start to improve over Florida throughout the evening.

More to come later.



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Re: Ophelia Moves Away For Now [Re: MikeC]
      #54465 - Fri Sep 09 2005 10:03 PM

Just to let everyone know that has been emailing, I'm very very very behind in emails right now, and unfortunately I can't respond to everyone. If you were having issues logging in make sure you read the information on the login page about passwords, spam blockers, and the like.

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Re: Ophelia Moves Away For Now [Re: MikeC]
      #54466 - Fri Sep 09 2005 10:30 PM

Is that a upper low to the se of ophelia? And will this effect her track any? if so how?

Edited by dolfinatic (Sat Sep 10 2005 12:58 AM)


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Re: Ophelia Moves Away For Now [Re: MikeC]
      #54467 - Fri Sep 09 2005 10:35 PM

I'm sorry, but based on latest satellite loops, I just don't see the northern motion that is supposed to be happening. If anything, I see more of a due east or north of due east moton in the last satellite iamges.

I am not one to post frequent and pointless posts here, although I monitor this forum closely, but I simply just don't see the northern component to the NHC's track forecast. Perhaps I am victim of satellite loop hallucination, however I doubt it. I clearly see a more eastern motion than the LATEST NHC motion of NE.

What are some other meteoroligical opinions on the more "current" trends?


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Re: Ophelia Moves Away For Now [Re: MikeC]
      #54468 - Fri Sep 09 2005 10:40 PM

I see the same motion like a E/NE or due E motion mabe the computer model are going to pick on that later.

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Re: Ophelia Moves Away For Now [Re: hurricane expert]
      #54469 - Fri Sep 09 2005 11:19 PM

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I see the same motion like a E/NE or due E motion mabe the computer model are going to pick on that later.




I see LOTS of dry air intruding on the western side of Ophelia right now. The "hurricane" status may be short lived.

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Re: Ophelia Moves Away For Now [Re: Hugh]
      #54472 - Sat Sep 10 2005 12:01 AM

I just checked the loops and eiher the red color crayon broke, or the cloud tops are really warming up rapidly.
If there was not more to storms than cold cloud tops I would think this is not even a good TS at this point. As for direction, she is seemingly turning in one place and disintegrating or imploding at the same time. It is a head scratcher trying to see what is going on with only the infrared to look at at night.

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Re: Ophelia Moves Away For Now [Re: crpeavley]
      #54473 - Sat Sep 10 2005 12:23 AM

I think what we need to do here is not look at every little satellite loop but look at this storm over a period of time....like where it is relative to this time yesterday. It is now sitting at 30.0 N whereas yesterday, at this time, it was sitting at 28.5N or something like that. It's moving slow and the NHC never said it was going to do anything but move slow. It does have an easterly movement but it is also obviously moving north. Thats why they said movement was north"east''. I really think considering the nature of this storm and the fact that the models have been all over the place, the NHC has done a really good job calling this one so far. Believe me, they are seeing everything we are seeing and more.

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Re: Ophelia Moves Away For Now [Re: Hugh]
      #54474 - Sat Sep 10 2005 12:37 AM

From looking at this loop Washington WV it looks as if Ophelia is being pinched between the dry air to the W & NW and the ULL to her southeast....kind of like squeezing a grape between your thumb and forefinger.

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Re: Ophelia Moves Away For Now [Re: Daytonaman]
      #54481 - Sat Sep 10 2005 01:30 AM

The latest recon fix puts it at 30.1 N, 77.4 W, which is already further east than it was supposed to get at any point in the forecast track from the last advisory. It would be funny if it just kept going out to sea after all of this, but we probably won't get that lucky.

There has been another burst of convection near the center, albeit a relatively small one. Latest recon had it at 983 mb, which is about where it was before. At this stage of its development, it doesn't need really intense convection to maintain itself, but it won't intensify too much without increasing the convection from where it was earlier.


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Re: Ophelia Moves Away For Now [Re: Thunderbird12]
      #54482 - Sat Sep 10 2005 02:19 AM

Need a reality check here. Is there no real feeling that Ophelia could amount to a serious East Coast threat to someone? Or are people not really paying attention, both here, in the media and in the public? I live in Hilton Head, on the SC coast- a barrier island. Nearly everyone I spoke to today was surprised there even was a storm- the local media is treating it in passing "A tropical system may threaten the low country early to middle of next week. Now to sports . . . " When I last checked, there were like 29 browsers on here- what is there normally when a hurricane is this close to the coast?

Anyway, very curious. Our County Emergency Management head has announced that the storm may threaten our area earlier than originally thought, and may be calling a voluntary evacuation tomorrow, with a state-ordered mandatory as early as Sunday. Only place I have "stumbled" across that is on our town newspaper's website.

Maybe I worry too much.


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Reality [Re: SC Bill]
      #54483 - Sat Sep 10 2005 02:28 AM

So right you are...maybe because all eyes are still tuned to Katrinas after effects? Maybe the fact that the intensity & track are downplayed & uncertain? Maybe the it won't/doesn't/hasn't happened in long time mentality? If anything those ideas should have been squashed after last week...even last year..heck who would of thought 5 storms..seems we always forget little Bonnie..would have hit Fl in a span of 7 weeks?

I know I'm watching...out of interest as well as safety..especially after this year...these storms have not gone by the book at all...some lessons bear repeating unfortunatly.


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Re: Reality [Re: twizted sizter]
      #54484 - Sat Sep 10 2005 02:49 AM

Looking at the latest wv imagery, it looks like a big part of ophelia has split off and is heading ne. Does anyone else see that and is it possible that the models were picking up on this as the ne movement that she was supposed to take? Because it really looks like she is moving east mostly. Also could a new low form off of the cast off to the Ne?
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Re: Reality [Re: dolfinatic]
      #54485 - Sat Sep 10 2005 03:00 AM

Im on the FL/GA border, can i breath easier tonight? any thoughts?

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Re: Reality [Re: Adam]
      #54486 - Sat Sep 10 2005 03:10 AM

I'm wondering that too, Adam. I'm just down from you in Jacksonville. I'm concerned that it's gone more east than northeast or north-northeast and (according to Deegan) the NHC doesn't seem too concerned with that. I, like others here, have thought all along this would be a FL/GA border or up to Brunswick. I keep expecting the models to start to shift.

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Re: Reality [Re: disneyfanfl]
      #54487 - Sat Sep 10 2005 03:13 AM

UNTIL YOU ARE COMPLETELY OUT OF THE CONE YOU SHOULD KEEP AN EYE ON THE STORM! It appears that you are still in the cone of error. You never know!

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Re: Reality [Re: weatherwatcher2]
      #54488 - Sat Sep 10 2005 03:15 AM

of course, anything is possible!

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Re: Reality [Re: Adam]
      #54489 - Sat Sep 10 2005 03:35 AM

REPEATING THE 11 PM EDT POSITION...30.4 N... 77.0 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTHEAST NEAR 9 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS... 75 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 985 MB.

The above is from the 11 pm advisory-- from stationary to 9 mph-- that's trucking along for a storm, isn't it?

A question: how far north before the water gets cool enough to really hamper further strengthening?


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Re: Reality [Re: gailwarning]
      #54490 - Sat Sep 10 2005 03:50 AM

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A question: how far north before the water gets cool enough to really hamper further strengthening?




Well, Maria is trucking off towards Iceland and still has 60mph winds. Ophelia has more issues with wind shear than water temps for a while.

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Re: Reality [Re: StormHound]
      #54492 - Sat Sep 10 2005 04:02 AM

For those who forcasted for the storm not to move much further north than 30-31, do you still feel that way? I read that from more than one poster on this site. The forecast made a lot of sense to me. I would love to hear an update from any of you regarding your prediction. I am interest edin learning if you still believe it won't move further north and where you feel it will eventually make landfall.

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