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Robert
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Re: Hurricane Rita Heading for the Florida Straits [Re: MikeC]
      #55434 - Tue Sep 20 2005 05:14 PM

If you go to weather underground animated radar from key west you can see the annular eye in the center rotating around just packing the wall on the south side.


http://www.weatherunderground.com/radar/...mp;showlabels=1


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Re: ne quandrant just got drier? not up here in NMB or S Broward [Re: Margie]
      #55435 - Tue Sep 20 2005 05:16 PM

He's only the mayor of the biggest party city in the USA. He certainly wasn't expecting to have to deal with a problem of this magnitude- not after so many "good" years of no tropical action for the NO area. He's running on pure adrenaline now with very little direction. This, of course, is only my opinion.

Boy, sat rad looks pretty healthy to me right now. A good-looking system (if you can call it that).

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Re: 11am advisory [Re: ralphfl]
      #55436 - Tue Sep 20 2005 05:19 PM

I agree Ralph, I live in Orlando and we just started getting some of the feeder bands and the wind is gusting here anywhere from 23-28mph.....

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Re: 11am advisory [Re: orlandocanewatcher]
      #55437 - Tue Sep 20 2005 05:23 PM

Fox news just said its a cat 2 storm now.Guess they got a paid guy inside.

Love the guy they interviewed in key west.He basiclly told them its not coming here its going to texas or mexico.


Boy the news got off that fast something good they dont want to report.

Edited by ralphfl (Tue Sep 20 2005 05:23 PM)


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Category 2 [Re: ralphfl]
      #55438 - Tue Sep 20 2005 05:25 PM

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Fox news just said its a cat 2 storm now.Guess they got a paid guy inside.





No, it's official. 1:15pm update. Category 2.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCUAT3+shtml/201711.shtml


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Re: 11am advisory [Re: ralphfl]
      #55439 - Tue Sep 20 2005 05:26 PM

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#3 they are talking right now about the models and all the talk is about it may go to N.O. they just said 3 good models show it going there.I cannot find 1 MIND YOU 1 that shows this storm going there.






God if they're forcasting on fox like that, CNN(which is wayyy more inflamitory than fox is) must be forcasting a N/E hit on NO. Personally I think the jetstream would have to drop like 2000 miles and come up into the s-w of Rita to give it enough power to make it go north enough to hit NO but thats just my wild forcasting.

I think it's important that people realize that Rita is going to build some in the next 2-3 days, that no matter where you are in the north part of the GOM, you are going to get a little bit of storm surge. The levees in NO are damaged and quite possibly cannot take even CAT1 storm surges without being broken in places which have not been shored up.

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Re: Category 2 [Re: Random Chaos]
      #55441 - Tue Sep 20 2005 05:36 PM

TS to CAT2 in under 3 hours...ouch. I have to say that thats a bit quicker than I thought it would. Just like someone flipped a switch as it passes the Florida straits. The water vapour loop just showed a fairly noticable increase. The eye hasn't even properly formed yet...this could really grow...

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The Force 2005
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Re: 11am advisory [Re: Psyber]
      #55442 - Tue Sep 20 2005 05:36 PM

Who are they that you are refering too?

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Re: Category 2 [Re: Psyber]
      #55443 - Tue Sep 20 2005 05:39 PM

Katrina did exactly what Rita has done. Explode rapidly.

Did it occur to anyone that Katrina has Rita in it!!! HUMMMM


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Re: Category 2 [Re: Psyber]
      #55444 - Tue Sep 20 2005 05:43 PM

The eye is increasing to develope a very well orginized wall feature. Ever present on SAT and RADAR.

Hold on to your hats, it's going to be wild for the next couple of days. I still think with all that is happening with the atmospheric conditions, that N.O should not let their guard down for any reason. Not to say Rita will be on your doorstep, but to peek every so often through the window.


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Re: Category 2 [Re: The Force 2005]
      #55445 - Tue Sep 20 2005 05:46 PM

The official intensity forecast has been bumped up to 95 knots (110 mph) in 6 hours and 105 knots (120 mph, cat 3) in 18 hours, then maintaining 105 knots until landfall.

Edited by Thunderbird12 (Tue Sep 20 2005 05:47 PM)


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Re: Category 2 [Re: The Force 2005]
      #55446 - Tue Sep 20 2005 05:46 PM

Katrina took longer to build than Rita has so far. If Katrina hadn't stalled and then gone N N/E like it did, it would have hit about where Rita is heading except it wouldn't have been nearly as strong is Rita is getting. Katrina took about a day longer to get to 100mph winds and was a day more west then Rita is now.

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Re: Category 2 [Re: Random Chaos]
      #55447 - Tue Sep 20 2005 05:46 PM

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS HAVE REACHED 100 MPH...160 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. Rita IS NOW A CATEGORY TWO HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. SOME STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST DURING THE
NEXT 24 HOURS.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 30 MILES... 45 KM... FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 120 MILES...195 KM.

LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE REPORTED BY A RECONNAISSANCE PLANE WAS 978 MB...28.88 INCHES

That is a huge drop in presure.


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Rick on boat in Mobile
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consider this [Re: The Force 2005]
      #55448 - Tue Sep 20 2005 05:48 PM

they delayed a few hours or more before finally agreeing the hurricane was, in fact a hurricane. (from Joe Bastardi...it irritated him early this morning that they didn't consider it a hurricane....) that is why there is an "apparent explosion"....it is simply going through a normal escalation into a cat 4-5 hurricane....

remember

gulf of mexico.

high SST's....

New Orleans could get hit as easily as anyone else. the models have swung twice since I logged on this morning.

they will swing again...

if anyone thinks they are out of the woods...it is wishful thinking....


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Re: consider this [Re: Rick on boat in Mobile]
      #55449 - Tue Sep 20 2005 05:51 PM

Rick,

Joe was furious that the NHC was not reporting the Rita had reached CAT 1 by the 8AM advisory, but they were going on what the RECON was delivering. Now, we see the onslaught taken place, and agree with you, with an intense and strengthening hurricane, she will eventually make her her own winds to steer as well, so that is something the models have to take into an account.

Edited by The Force 2005 (Tue Sep 20 2005 05:52 PM)


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Jeffmidtown
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Re: consider this [Re: Rick on boat in Mobile]
      #55451 - Tue Sep 20 2005 05:53 PM

Steve Lyons on TWC just said that they found a central pressure of 976mb in Rita.....(sheesh, she's not a lovely meter maid is she? Beatles song...)

Also on the Drudge Report it has Number Nine as the headline, would this be the 9th storm to hit the US or the Ninth Hurricane to form?


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Re: Category 2 [Re: The Force 2005]
      #55452 - Tue Sep 20 2005 05:53 PM

I hesitate to call it exploding... it's intensifying, but... what i think you're seeing is a system that was poised to strengthen, being held back by the interaction with the bahamas. It's free of that influence, and now it's simply gotten to the strength it probably woud have been without land interaction. (In otherwords, the disruption of the inner core has lessened, so the system is able to take better advantage of the positive environment.

Now, if they find it a cat 3 by 11pm, I might be more willing to say it's exploding

I know Katrina just happened, but can we avoid Katrina-like Comparisons for now? Just like Camille, I think Katrina should be the flhurricane equivalent of invoking "Godwin's Law"

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Re: Category 2 [Re: Bloodstar]
      #55453 - Tue Sep 20 2005 05:56 PM

well here in Riverview we just got lil taste of Rita....we had some heavy rain and 30 mph gusts....enough to wake up my 2 yr old from a nap...anyone think we will get anything more than just those type of conditions in the Tampa area?...

hope no one took this lightly in the keys....stay safe

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Re: Category 2 [Re: Bloodstar]
      #55454 - Tue Sep 20 2005 05:56 PM

Rick,
Gulf SST's are lower than with Katrina although they are still warm. Florida Bay is very warm and is fueling this burst.

now
then


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Re: Category 2 [Re: FlaMommy]
      #55455 - Tue Sep 20 2005 05:59 PM

Flamommy,

there's nothing that shows Rita doing anything other than heading out into the GOM.(away from Tampa).

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