typhoon_tip
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Hmm, they did say in the 11pm that the inner eyewall was finally giving up and the outer eyewall was beginning to contract.
No, but the latest recon indicates it has:
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URNT12 KNHC 230338
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 23/03:24:50Z
B. 26 deg 10 min N
090 deg 19 min W
C. 700 mb 2406 m
D. NA kt
E. NA deg nm
F. 311 deg 107 kt
G. 219 deg 018 nm
H. 919 mb
I. 11 C/ 3050 m
J. 17 C/ 3044 m
K. 15 C/ NA
L. CLOSED
M. C30 no mention of the inner eyewall here!
N. 12345/ 7
O. 0.02 / 1 nm
P. AF309 2018A OB 17
MAX FL WIND 125 KT NW QUAD 01:50:40 Z
INNER EYEWALL REMNANT VERY RAGGED FROM E-W
http://twister.sbs.ohio-state.edu/text/tropical/atlantic/URNT12.KNHC
11 PM EDT THU SEP 22 2005
FLIGHT LEVEL WIND DATA AND RADAR OBSERVATIONS FROM THE AIR FORCE
HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT THE CONCENTRIC EYEWALL
CYCLE MIGHT BE NEARING COMPLETION. THERE IS NOW ONLY A SINGLE
FLIGHT LEVEL WIND MAXIMUM AT A RADIUS OF ABOUT 20 N MI...ASSOCIATED
WITH THE OUTER EYEWALL THAT THE AIRCRAFT RADAR INDICATE IS SLOWLY
CONTRACTING... WHILE THE INNER EYEWALL CONTINUES TO DETERIORATE.
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Thunderbird12
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The 11pm discussion did mention that there was only one wind maximum (rather than two seperate maximums) on the last recon pass, so the latest recon report of only one eyewall follows nicely from that observation.
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gman
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Yes, I just looked at latest loop and it appears as though she resumed previous track. ANYONE: Any indication from someone with recent data whether the high pressure is rebuilding or ceased its retreat to east?
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collegemom
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"daytime" heating about today was 100 so where were you?
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collegemom
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then again it's late and we all might be a bit frayed/farked. It's time for a short nap. From central Arkansas I will crack a window and keep an ear tuned Friday thru Sunday. God Bless us each and every one.
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Thunderbird12
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The 00Z appears to be a little further west with its landfall forecast, though still north of Galveston. It also continues to take the vorticity remnant of back into the Gulf after a few days inland. I think we can safely assume that the steering currents will basically collapse for awhile after it makes landfall, so somebody could get a lot of rain. Exactly where it drifts will be difficult to say.
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Margie
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Waveland, right on the coast, reported 52 people missing, they couldn't find any bodies for those folks because they were washed out to sea.
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Bad news from Jackson County, MS.
My brother just called to find out some info about the weather. Serious flooding has already occured in Gulf Park Estates area of Ocean Springs, cutting off some residents from escape, and no one in that area seems to know anything about 's surge. There are people camping out on their slabs in tents, all along those tiny subdivisions along the coast there in the west county. A lot of the coastal areas, if houses are left habitable, don't have power. Also my brother said the land lines went out today so no one has any phone service, that includes the sheriff's dept.
They have no teletype or any way to have received any info from the NWS.
So he did not know about the high tide/surge being caused by . I let him know to expect 5-8 ft. The trouble is I don't know how much of that has already arrived and how bad its going to get. I'm afraid people are going to have problems overnight and not know about the flooding until it is happening to them.
He said that they are getting a stiff SW breeze over 20mph.
My brother did notice this aft before he went to work: water washing over Beach Blvd in Pascagoula. He didn't know about getting this much water though.
Right now he's trying to pick his way around into these areas if he can get in, to see if anyone needs to be rescued. He couldn't get into Gulf Park because all the roads to get in there are already underwater; he just took a causeway to the next subdivision to the east to try to see if he finds anyone there.
I have to think that the water is going to continue to rise some more tonight? Looks like they're going to get more water than was mentioned in the warnings (warnings that no one down there could receive).
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Katrina's Surge: http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/Katrinas_surge_contents.asp
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Storm Hunter
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thought this was an interesting article.....
Blast a hurricane away? Forget about it!
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Wx Data: KFLPANAM23 / CW8771
2012== 23/10/9/5 sys/strms/hurr/majh
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KATFIVE
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Any sense of how 's windfield compares to Kat's? She looks very big
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Margie
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I'm a little busy trying to get help for my brother.
Why don't you look it up yourself on the TPC website?
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Katrina's Surge: http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/Katrinas_surge_contents.asp
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Storm Hunter
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the water here in PCB is high, i went down to the beach about 20mins ago and water is up to the Condos/dunes/houses....you can't see the beach anymore....waves around 6-10 ft from what i could tell.
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PColaDogg
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KATFIVE, Jeff Masters said this on his Weather Underground blog:
"I expect that the area of extreme storm surge from will be less than 's, since is a smaller storm."
That said, I don't know to what degree is smaller. I suspect that now that she's more or less through an EWRC, she'll continue to get bigger. Whether she reaches Kat size, I dunno.
I'd like to find something that would let me compare them (and other storms like , , maybe even as far back as Camille), preferably graphically, but I don't know of any such thing yet.
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Storm Hunter
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pressure is up more..... also open in eyewall
URNT12 KNHC 230534
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 23/05:07:30Z
B. 26 deg 23 min N
090 deg 33 min W
C. 700 mb 2432 m
D. NA kt
E. NA deg nm
F. 043 deg 112 kt
G. 311 deg 020 nm
H. 921 mb
I. 11 C/ 3052 m
J. 16 C/ 3045 m
K. 16 C/ NA
L. OPEN W
M. C30
N. 12345/ 7
O. 0.02 / 1 nm
P. AF309 2018A OB 22
MAX FL WIND 132 KT NE QUAD 03:31:30 Z
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Edited by Storm Hunter (Fri Sep 23 2005 01:40 AM)
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nate77
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KHOU.com is reporting that outter bands has reached LA.
Port Forchuida and Golden Meadows have 52 Mile Gusts this hour.
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Storm Hunter
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almost can see the shear about to kick in
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8shr.GIF
so much for Probabilities
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/tropical/climo/ns_prob_sep.htm
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Edited by Storm Hunter (Fri Sep 23 2005 01:45 AM)
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Storm Hunter
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sats back... can see a ragged west side of storm.... goes with open eyewall on west side..... over all appearance looks weaker than before... i think she has once last chance with the eddy vortex when she passes it, but i think shear and dry air will start affecting her midday today....and on.....
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DEBRN77
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If you hear anything from your brother please let me know, my son is there he is suppose to be leaving in the morning for the Panhandle. You have me worried now
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Margie
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OK, got my brother connected with NWS NOLA for storm surge info. They are also going to get high tide tonight and it will be an additional 2-3 feet.
At about 24 hours before landfall, 's windfield was as follows: hurricane-force winds extended out 105 miles from the center, and tropical-storm-force winds extended out 205 miles from the center. These distances increased before landfall, as well (to 125mi & 230mi, when the eye was still 2 hours south of NOLA at 8am).
However before landfall the western side of the storm was attenuated greatly, so damaging winds did not extend out that far to the west of a line running along, say, Jefferson Parish, LA.
By comparison, right now is at 80mi and 205mi respectively, about 24 hours from landfall.
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Katrina's Surge: http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/Katrinas_surge_contents.asp
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Margie
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If you hear anything from your brother please let me know, my son is there he is suppose to be leaving in the morning for the Panhandle. You have me worried now
Well the big concern are folks that are now living in tents on their slabs, who may be asleep when the water comes in. Does your son have a home that was washed away by 's surge in that area?
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Katrina's Surge: http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/Katrinas_surge_contents.asp
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DEBRN77
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No, my son is an insurance appraiser, he is staying in a RV in Bilioxi.
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