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collegemom
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Re: Here it comes! [Re: swimaway19]
      #62215 - Sun Oct 23 2005 05:40 PM

LOL yes I would assume it's flat. I meant in terms of the Everglades (the water temp and content there).

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Re: Here it comes! [Re: collegemom]
      #62217 - Sun Oct 23 2005 05:42 PM

Anybody hear anything about Seminole County schools. Last I heard they were going to decided at 1030 today. Does no update = school on Monday???

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Re: Here it comes! [Re: swimaway19]
      #62218 - Sun Oct 23 2005 05:44 PM

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It is Florida..... no matter where you go its very flat... no mountains or even sizable hills....just sand dunes at the beach




Probably the closest thing to a hill are landfills in Broward and Miami-Dade counties. Otherwise, it is about as flat as you can find.

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latest from SPC [Re: Rasvar]
      #62219 - Sun Oct 23 2005 05:48 PM

Here is the latest from SPC on the tornado threat for today and tonight... basically it appears that the greatest threat will be in south Florida, with the alignment of the front in central FL not ideal for tornado formation, since storms will quickly move from the warm side to the cool side of the front, rather than along the front. As Wilma approaches, though, the tornado threat closer to the front will also increase:

...S FL...
LEAD CONFLUENCE BAND ASSOCIATED WITH Wilma SHOULD REACH THE WRN KEYS
BY MID AFTERNOON...AND SW FL BY LATE THIS AFTERNOON OR EARLY THIS
EVENING. COINCIDENT INCREASE IN LOW-LVL SHEAR STRENGTH/ HODOGRAPH
CURVATURE...COUPLED WITH RICH MOISTURE INFLOW /DEWPOINTS IN THE UPR
70S/...WILL ENHANCE POTENTIAL FOR EMBEDDED SUPERCELLS AND POSSIBLE
TORNADOES. THIS THREAT SHOULD FURTHER INCREASE AND SPREAD E ACROSS
THE SRN PART OF THE PENINSULA TONIGHT/EARLY MONDAY AS Wilma
ACCELERATES NEWD.

...CNTRL FL...
DESPITE WARM MID LEVEL TEMPERATURES...AFOREMENTIONED FRONT OVER
CNTRL FL MAY PROVIDE A FOCUS FOR SCATTERED TSTM DEVELOPMENT LATER
TODAY AS HEATING BOOSTS MLCAPE TO AROUND 1500 J/KG. BOTH LOW AND
DEEP SHEAR ALONG BOUNDARY WILL REMAIN MODEST UNTIL THIS EVENING
...WHEN FLOW BEGINS TO INCREASE ACROSS REGION. IN ADDITION...
BOUNDARY ORIENTATION IS SUCH THAT ANY STORMS THAT FORM LIKELY WILL
MOVE FROM WARM TO COOL SIDE FAIRLY RAPIDLY. THUS...ACTIVITY SHOULD
REMAIN LARGELY NON-SEVERE TODAY...ALTHOUGH HIGH PWS /2+ INCHES/ MAY
YIELD A WET MICROBURST OR TWO. BUT POTENTIAL FOR SUPERCELLS AND
ISOLATED TORNADOES WILL INCREASE ALONG BOUNDARY TONIGHT AND MONDAY
AS LOW LEVEL SHEAR STRENGTHENS IN CONJUNCTION WITH ARRIVAL OF
STRONGER FORCING FOR ASCENT WITH Wilma. INTERACTIONS CONDUCIVE TO
LOW LVL STORM ROTATION MAY ALSO OCCUR BETWEEN THE BOUNDARY AND
Wilma/S OUTER CONFLUENCE BANDS.


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Re: Here it comes! [Re: SteveieB]
      #62220 - Sun Oct 23 2005 05:49 PM

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Anybody hear anything about Seminole County schools. Last I heard they were going to decided at 1030 today. Does no update = school on Monday???




The following information pertains to Seminole County, it is from local6.com

CLOSURES:

Due to inland tropical storm warnings, potential for tornados, and high wind gusts associated with Hurricane Wilma, Seminole County Public Schools will be closed on Monday, October 24th, for students and all 10- and 11-month staff/personnel, including teachers and bus drivers.

Because of the need for shelters to be open at some schools, and the need for buses and other services in times of emergency, 12-month employees will be on duty at schools and support sites. Those 12-month employees who cannot work due to inclement weather conditions may take appropriate leave.

The Student Make-Up Day previously established and Board approved in the 2005-2006 Student Calendar, will be Wednesday, November 23, 2005.

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Re: Here it comes! [Re: Rasvar]
      #62221 - Sun Oct 23 2005 05:50 PM

We have some decent sized hills here in Citrus County too!!

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Wilma strengthening? [Re: MikeC]
      #62222 - Sun Oct 23 2005 05:51 PM

that eye is starting to clear up on the visible !!

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/float-vis-loop.html

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Re: Lake County Schools Closed [Re: Jamiewx]
      #62223 - Sun Oct 23 2005 05:52 PM

The weather here in Lake County (Eustis) is kind of erie today. If you look outside it looks like it may be very cold and ready to snow but humid as heck when you actually walk out into it. Can't imagine being further south right now and what the weather is over there.

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Re: Here it comes! [Re: collegemom]
      #62224 - Sun Oct 23 2005 05:54 PM

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I am not familiar with the topography of the projected landfall area. Is there anything there that could influence a sharper angle north?




The projected landfall area is very flat...imagine sawgrass as far as you can see in any direction with a fe "islands" of palm trees. The everglades is a basically a river. Well, the Southern part is. Naples is for the most part the entrance to the everglades. Naples is a mixture of dense Florida canopy and the sawgrass. The farther North you go, the more dense the foliage gets. when you get into North Central Fl, the terrain gets hilly (by hilly I mean 30-50 ft changes in elevation) and actually FL has their own mountain! I forget where it is, but it's like 50 mi or so North of Orlando. I hope that answers you question.

This concludes this geography lesson. Class dismissed.

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Re: Lake County Schools Closed [Re: COgal]
      #62226 - Sun Oct 23 2005 05:57 PM

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The weather here in Lake County (Eustis) is kind of erie today. If you look outside it looks like it may be very cold and ready to snow but humid as heck when you actually walk out into it. Can't imagine being further south right now and what the weather is over there.




The weather is Naples is now cloudy, winds picking up at 17 ESE gusting to 22 and it still feels humid; the pressure is starting to drop.


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Re: Here it comes! [Re: chase 22]
      #62227 - Sun Oct 23 2005 05:57 PM

Baynews9 is sayin pinellas county schools will be closed

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RMore closures [Re: funky]
      #62228 - Sun Oct 23 2005 05:58 PM

I didn't see it mentioned earlier, but UCF has just canceled all classes for Monday. http://www.ucf.edu to see for yourself.

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I hate posting something as general as this, but c’mon guys! It isn’t that difficult… If you’re under a hurricane warning, don’t go to school on Monday. Post this stuff in the current conditions forum.




In all fairness, it took UCF until 1pm to decide. Nevermind Orlando, there are many students like myself who would much rather stay with family in South Florida rather than head back to campus and deal with it there.

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Edited by leetdan (Sun Oct 23 2005 06:09 PM)


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Re: Wilma strengthening? [Re: funky]
      #62229 - Sun Oct 23 2005 05:59 PM

Yes I just saw the eye on Visible.She still continues to look better and better.The winds should be increased on the next update or later tonight.

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Dew Points at 1 p.m. [Re: chase 22]
      #62230 - Sun Oct 23 2005 06:00 PM

Earlier I posted the 10 a.m. dew points. Here are the 1 p.m dew points and changes since 10 a.m.:

Tallahassee 48 0
Gainesville 62 +5
Orlando 77 +2
West Palm Beach 78 0
Miami Beach 82 +1

Looks like the front was pushed back somewhat northward based on the +5 dew point increase at Gainesville. I'll keep tabs on this all day.

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Re: Here it comes! [Re: Kruz]
      #62231 - Sun Oct 23 2005 06:01 PM

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We have some decent sized hills here in Citrus County too!!




We do?
use PM for these comments. it's just clutter to make posts like this, and the site is sluggish enough right now with all the traffic. read the forum rules. -HF

Edited by HanKFranK (Sun Oct 23 2005 06:11 PM)


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topography [Re: leetdan]
      #62232 - Sun Oct 23 2005 06:02 PM

the river of air above the ground is what's guiding Wilma. land mass interaction is really only important when you have high, rugged terrain or a very slow moving system with weak atmospheric steering that can be tugged around by friction from land. the low, flat topography of florida isn't going to do much to warp the path of the storm.
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Re: Here it comes! [Re: Addicted2Cane]
      #62233 - Sun Oct 23 2005 06:03 PM

I hate posting something as general as this, but c’mon guys! It isn’t that difficult… If you’re under a hurricane warning, don’t go to school on Monday. Post this stuff in the current conditions thread.

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Edited by Lysis (Sun Oct 23 2005 06:04 PM)


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Re: Wilma strengthening? [Re: funky]
      #62234 - Sun Oct 23 2005 06:05 PM

The 12Z GFDL is quite a bit deeper with Wilma, bringing it down below 950 mb over the Gulf and around 950 mb at landfall. However, it shows fairly rapid deepening right away, forecasting the pressure to already be down to 947 mb by 18Z today (about right now), and that simply hasn't happened yet. The satellite presentation is still unimpressive and based on the recon it is still struggling to hold its own. The large outer eyewall and concentric eyewall structure is typically not associated with systems that intensify very rapidly. Some slow deepening is still possible in the storm' s current configuration, but even that has not happened yet.

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Re: Here it comes! [Re: ParrishNStPeteFL]
      #62236 - Sun Oct 23 2005 06:07 PM

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Baynews9 is sayin pinellas county schools will be closed




Just got the word that Volusia County is closed as well.

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Re: Hurricane Warnings for Parts of the Florida Peninsula [Re: MikeC]
      #62237 - Sun Oct 23 2005 06:08 PM

The University of Central Florida will be closed tomorrow (monday) as well. This means I get another week to study for my test.

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