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JonB
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Re: Ike Landfall: Galveston [Re: Jane219ga]
      #85068 - Sat Sep 13 2008 08:56 PM

at 9:17 yesterday Ike had a reading 952 mb.

I have found numerous hurricanes that were 3 on the Saffir-Simpson scale with minimum pressures of 952, 953, 954. Very lucky the winds with Ike never caught up to his minimum pressure.

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Ed DunhamAdministrator
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Re: Ike Landfall: Galveston [Re: Jane219ga]
      #85069 - Sat Sep 13 2008 09:04 PM

Thanks for your concern, but we are fine and the 'quiet period' is normal. CFHC is primarily a site for tracking tropical cyclones in the Atlantic basin and for 'getting the word out' whenever a storm should threaten an area. I suspect that a lot of our contributors (and a big 'Thank You' to all of them) were up long into the wee hours of this morning monitoring the progress of Ike as the hurricane approached the Galveston area. Ike will soon become a Tropical Depression as the storm moves into southwestern Arkansas later this evening. Invests 91L and 92L are both not expected to develop - at least not for the next few days - since both Invest areas will be under the influence of strong windshear. So there really isn't anything to track for the moment and I'd guess that everyone is getting some well deserved rest. In the next couple of days we should all get a better idea of the scope of the damage that was inflicted by Ike and of the magnitude of the recovery effort.
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M.A.
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Re: Ike Landfall: Galveston [Re: Ed Dunham]
      #85074 - Sun Sep 14 2008 11:18 AM

I dont know if it is a mistake or not, Is Ike forcasted to become a storm again??? Looking at the forecast it has it upgraded to a storm in Canada. Is this possible? Or is that where the Canadian goverment takes over from the NHC?

It looks like we are going into a SLOWER period. I think everyone is in need of a little break. I would like to once again thank the mods and mets here for the spot on commentary.


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Re: Ike Landfall: Galveston [Re: M.A.]
      #85075 - Sun Sep 14 2008 04:24 PM

The system that was Ike is expected to strengthen again - but as an extratropical system, i.e., no longer tropical in nature. From the last NHC Discussion bulletin issued this morning:

"IKE WILL LOSE TROPICAL CHARACTERISTICS DURING THE NEXT 24
HOURS AS IT MERGES WITH THE FRONT. SOME RE-INTENSIFICATION IS
EXPECTED AFTER extratropical TRANSITION IS COMPLETE"

Cheers,
ED


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Re: Ike Landfall: Galveston [Re: Ed Dunham]
      #85077 - Sun Sep 14 2008 06:28 PM

Galveston reporter Video


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saltysenior
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Re: Ike Landfall: Galveston [Re: hurricf]
      #85084 - Mon Sep 15 2008 12:18 PM



Galv. tidal link on this site showed a peak recorded wind of 54 knts nne at about 2:am that morning at "Galv.Pleasure Pier''.......tv and others say 110......that's a big difference........... tide gauge recorded +13ft...that jives,but what's with the wind reports????


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Re: Ike Landfall: Galveston [Re: saltysenior]
      #85085 - Mon Sep 15 2008 03:35 PM

After a reprieve from Ike, here is a good collection of photos from around the area Link here. #11 especially reflects the event for me. Best to all those in the area, help is on the way from here as well.

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Re: Ike Landfall: Galveston [Re: MikeC]
      #85086 - Tue Sep 16 2008 01:26 PM

Here is a google earth overlay with aerial photos of Ike damage

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LoisCane
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Re: Ike Landfall: Galveston [Re: MikeC]
      #85093 - Thu Sep 18 2008 09:16 PM

There's a part of me that will always think of Ike as Invest 97. When reading what was written here .. written well too it made me remember a lot on the beginnings of Ike and many of this season's storms that have come together and been "late bloomers" vs Cat 2s and 3s crossing the Atlantic.

With a wave down in the Carib it behooves us to all remember that as this seems to the year where storms form on our side of the world.

Yup... Invest 97.

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Re: Ike Landfall: Galveston [Re: LoisCane]
      #85095 - Fri Sep 19 2008 12:03 AM

Never underestimate mother nature.

Gilchrist, TX and Crystal Beacha are gone.

http://coastal.er.usgs.gov/hurricanes/ik...h_TX_Loc1LG.jpg


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LoisCane
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Re: Ike Landfall: Galveston [Re: flahurricane]
      #85099 - Fri Sep 19 2008 03:41 PM

Interesting actually to look at that image and see where the structures remain. I wonder how many feet in that is... how much of a mile (fractions) and if the land there has an incline away from the beach.

Homes built on the beach line are not surprisingly washed away but a bit surprised actually so much survived further on the other side.

Am sure they are very damaged either way.

Thanks for the reminder... those of us in Florida (and Texas and Alabama..and...) need to remember.

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Early Saturday roundup [Re: LoisCane]
      #85106 - Sat Sep 20 2008 08:22 AM

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 AM EDT SAT SEP 20 2008

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

A WESTWARD-MOVING TROPICAL WAVE...ACCOMPANIED BY A SURFACE LOW
PRESSURE SYSTEM OVER THE EASTERN CARIBBEAN SEA...IS PRODUCING
WIDESPREAD CLOUDINESS AND SHOWERS OVER THE LESSER ANTILLES...AND
ADJACENT CARIBBEAN AND ATLANTIC WATERS. THIS SYSTEM IS SHOWING
SIGNS OF IMPROVED ORGANIZATION THIS MORNING...AND UPPER-LEVEL WINDS
ARE EXPECTED TO BECOME SOMEWHAT MORE FAVORABLE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE
DAYS FOR SOME ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR.

A BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE...ACCOMPANIED BY DISORGANIZED SHOWER
ACTIVITY...CONTINUES OVER THE SOUTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN SEA JUST EAST
OF NICARAGUA. UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE CURRENTLY UNFAVORABLE FOR ANY
SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER STEWART

Edited by danielw (Sat Sep 20 2008 08:47 AM)


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tcurtis
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Re: Ike Landfall: Galveston [Re: MikeC]
      #85272 - Sat Oct 18 2008 09:11 PM

Hi there Mike C,

I'm searching for documented figures on the maximum storm surges observed in Galveston's ship channel/bay at Pie r 21 and in the Gulf at the Pleasure Pier.

http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/geo.shtml?location=8771341 asserts that a couple of hours before landfall, the maximum tide was 9.78 feet--this before the recording stations ceased to record.

What is your source for the peak surge at Galveston (and where in Galveston was it measured) & for Bolivar?

You quote: The "surge at Galveston was just over 12 feet, with higher peaks, but not as bad as it could have been had the storm passed just west. It appears, at least for the downtown, the seawall was a good investment as it kept things from getting too bad there. But still vast amounts of damage happened, including the destruction of the historic Balinese room and the Galveston Memorial Monument to the infamous 1900 Hurricane. Port Bolivar, across the bay east of Galveston, had a 23 ft surge."

Thanks much,

tcurtis


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