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MikeCAdministrator
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Re: Hurricane Sandy and the Northeastern US [Re: MikeC]
      #94189 - Mon Oct 29 2012 08:29 AM

Flooding ocurring in New York Harbor Webcam link. Multiple reports of flooding in Atlantic City, NJ, parts of the boardwalk have broken up along the north end.

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Re: Hurricane Sandy and the Northeastern US [Re: MikeC]
      #94191 - Mon Oct 29 2012 09:16 AM

Wanted to point out links are being updated on the frontpage throughout the day:

Cameras and more:
Follow Mark Sudduth from HurricaneTrack.com on the map (with video/radar and satellite) (tower recording) Also visit hurricanetrack.com for updates and awesome premium services.

Statue of Liberty Cams (including New York Harbor
Brooklyn Bridge Cam
New York Harbor webcam
Rockaway Beach, Long Island Cam
Point Pleasant Beach, NJ Live Streaming Camera
Ocean City, MD cam (Fager's Island)
Long Beach Island, NJ Webcam
Atlantic City, NJ Steel Pier Cam
Sea Ranch Resort in Kill Devil Hills, NC (Along OBX/Outer Banks)
Virginia Beach Webcams

NYT Sandy Cam (Recording)
Ocean City, MD (Fager's Island) (Recording)


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Random Chaos
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Re: Hurricane Sandy and the Northeastern US [Re: MikeC]
      #94192 - Mon Oct 29 2012 11:02 AM

Annapolis City Dock camera: http://www.annapolis.com/community/historic-annapolis-city-dock-web-cam/

Also, I heard that the Ocean City Fishing Pier has washed away - via local radio interview with CBS news crew in Ocean City.


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MikeCAdministrator
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Re: Hurricane Sandy and the Northeastern US [Re: Random Chaos]
      #94193 - Mon Oct 29 2012 11:11 AM

The latest recon still has sandy strengthening, now down to 937.5mb.

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Random Chaos
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Re: Hurricane Sandy and the Northeastern US [Re: MikeC]
      #94194 - Mon Oct 29 2012 12:21 PM

Vortex recon was 946mb. Not sure where the 937mb came from - saw it somewhere else also.

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CaneTrackerInSoFl
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Re: Hurricane Sandy and the Northeastern US [Re: Random Chaos]
      #94196 - Mon Oct 29 2012 12:31 PM

Extrapolated from HDOB if I remember correctly.

Edit: Adding the link to where it came from.

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Edited by CaneTrackerInSoFl (Mon Oct 29 2012 12:38 PM)


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HobbyistinNH
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Re: Hurricane Sandy and the Northeastern US [Re: Random Chaos]
      #94197 - Mon Oct 29 2012 12:36 PM



New York Harbor.....

My thoughts are with these folks...


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Re: Hurricane Sandy and the Northeastern US [Re: HobbyistinNH]
      #94198 - Mon Oct 29 2012 12:55 PM

Sandy's center is now visible on long range radar out of New Jersey.

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Re: Hurricane Sandy and the Northeastern US [Re: MikeC]
      #94200 - Mon Oct 29 2012 01:08 PM

It concerns me, that the NHC isn't modifying the track, to reflect the later and less intense turn thus far, and are just keeping the original track, as the most intense winds are to the south and west of center, and will likely track somewhere to the north of the 12 hour ago predicted path. This means that northern NJ will likely see more intense rain, wind, and likely more impacting a storm of us in boston. Yes it may be only 20-50 miles difference, but in a congested city coastline, it makes a difference. It makes a difference to us, as now it means the north shore is now likely to get flooding north of boston, instead of just the south facing beaches.

In the end, we will all be affected. I just wonder how affected the hurricane will be by the front, as deep as the hurricane part is.


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Re: Hurricane Sandy and the Northeastern US [Re: jkapust]
      #94201 - Mon Oct 29 2012 01:15 PM

I just checked the track. It's pretty much right on the NHC track, maybe a slight northward wobble, but pretty close.

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Re: Hurricane Sandy and the Northeastern US [Re: jkapust]
      #94205 - Mon Oct 29 2012 04:09 PM

It is also amazing that with a storm of this size within 4 hours, the NHC changed not only the direction dramatically but also the speed - from 18 to 28 mph.
I think they need better forecasting models, more frequent reporting or something. - This 4 hour period changed things dramatically (between the 11:00 AM Oct 29 Outlook and the 3:00 PM Outlook.
It is not funny how The Weather Channel is trying to cover this change. Their meteorologist photos are great (although they do what we should not). Sorry, just a rant. Doug


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Re: Hurricane Sandy and the Northeastern US [Re: Dougyd]
      #94206 - Mon Oct 29 2012 04:33 PM

But the acceleration westward was predicted...

What do you want the NHC to do? This has been a very well forecast storm thus far even in light of its unprecedented nature.

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Re: Hurricane Sandy and the Northeastern US [Re: CaneTrackerInSoFl]
      #94207 - Mon Oct 29 2012 04:48 PM

The turn and speed increase were forecast. Not sure what you're referring to???

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Re: Hurricane Sandy and the Northeastern US [Re: Random Chaos]
      #94225 - Tue Oct 30 2012 09:50 AM

The storm arrived on time, as predicted, and behaved exactly as advertised. Much to the surprise of too many people.
The only criticism I have heard from a knowledgable source (Bastardi) was that NHC declassified it too soon, as at land fall it was still very much a tropical system, albeit very sheared, and behaved accordingly. I have to say the picture made by AVN-infrared, as the center of circulation touched the New Jersey coast line at about 8:00 p.m. last night was classic...It showed a multi-layred cloud bank surrounding the small circulation center, which had become exposed by the shearing off of the higher cloud tops to the west. It was a classic view and I wish I had saved it. To me, it was still very much a tropical system at that exact moment.

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Edited by doug (Tue Oct 30 2012 09:53 AM)


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Re: Hurricane Sandy and the Northeastern US [Re: doug]
      #94228 - Tue Oct 30 2012 01:24 PM

GOES 13 loop of Sandy landfall: http://goes.gsfc.nasa.gov/goescolor/goeseast/hurricane2/movie/latest_ref.mov

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Re: Hurricane Sandy and the Northeastern US [Re: Random Chaos]
      #94233 - Tue Oct 30 2012 06:39 PM

Technical question: IF Sandy was declassified before the COC made land fall did a hurricane make land fall on the New Jersey shore last night?

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Re: Hurricane Sandy and the Northeastern US [Re: doug]
      #94235 - Tue Oct 30 2012 09:23 PM

I think they did declassify a bit early, but that is just from watching the news, and seeing the timing of the storm ect. We're getting the remnants of this "storm" now, like... the rain, and other bands ect. that arent even combined into the PTC anymore... its just a bunch of cold fronts coming through with remnants from storm according to the news... purple lightning... still somewhat windy... I pray those in NY, NJ. MD, CT and elsewhere are safe.

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Re: Hurricane Sandy and the Northeastern US [Re: doug]
      #94236 - Tue Oct 30 2012 09:41 PM

Quote:

Technical question: IF Sandy was declassified before the COC made land fall did a hurricane make land fall on the New Jersey shore last night?




From the top right corner of flhurricane page: "Number of days since last Hurricane Landfall in US: 1 (Sandy), in Florida: 2563 (Wilma)"

Officially, though, insurance co's etc. might argue for a more specific call on this...

I, for one, think the NHC and NWS made a very bad decision on how to handle this storm. Just sayin'

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Re: Hurricane Sandy and the Northeastern US [Re: srquirrely]
      #94238 - Tue Oct 30 2012 09:57 PM

As expected (unfortunately) Sandy will go down in the record books. It is really hard to see some of images out of this area. I like many others have family in NYC area and they received quite a bit of damage from talking with them this evening. It is crazy to here officials mention how global warming effected this storm???Are you kidding me that is just crazy. More like we are in an active period/cycle right now. My prayers go out to all those effected...

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Re: Hurricane Sandy and the Northeastern US [Re: MikeC]
      #94239 - Tue Oct 30 2012 10:57 PM

Post-tropical Sandy is still an ongoing event - located 50 miles ENE of Pittsburg at 30/21Z.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT...at 30/21Z

STORM WARNINGS REMAIN IN EFFECT OVER PORTIONS OF THE GREAT LAKES.
GALE WARNING ARE IN EFFECT ALONG PORTIONS OF THE MID-ATLANTIC AND
NORTHEAST COASTS.

FLOOD AND COASTAL FLOOD WATCHES...WARNINGS...AND ADVISORIES ARE IN
EFFECT OVER PORTIONS OF THE MID-ATLANTIC AND NORTHEAST STATES.

BLIZZARD WARNINGS REMAIN IN EFFECT ALONG THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF
THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS. WINTER STORM WARNINGS AND WINTER
WEATHER ADVISORIES REMAIN IN EFFECT FOR EXTREME WESTERN MARYLAND
AND SOUTHWESTWARD INTO EASTERN TENNESSEE...EASTERN KENTUCKY...AND
EXTREME WESTERN NORTH CAROLINA.

With consideration for the 'landfalling' questions (and in an attempt to keep myself on-topic), I've added a postscript to the Met Blog on Sandy.
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