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WeatherNLU
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Re: Changes in Charley Track?? [Re: andy1tom]
      #19570 - Thu Aug 12 2004 08:36 PM

Well there is without a doubt a westerly component to the storm still. The motion is called NNW, so it has not made the turn yet and judging by the last few frames there was a slight jog back to the NW. We shall see.

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Alex K.
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latest vortex message [Re: Unregistered User]
      #19571 - Thu Aug 12 2004 08:39 PM

If someone has posted this already i appologize
000
URNT12 KNHC 122307
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 12/2307Z
B. 21 DEG 28 MIN N
82 DEG 10 MIN W
C. 700 MB 2890 M
D. 65 KT
E. 042 DEG 027 NM
F. 120 DEG 95 KT
G. 021 DEG 009 NM
H. 976 MB
I. 12 C/ 3079 M
J. 18 C/ 3074 M
K. 8 C/ NA
L. OPEN SSE
M. C15
N. 12345/7
O. 0.1/ 2 NM
P. AF984 0703A Charley OB 21
MAX FL WIND 95 KT NE QUAD 2304Z. EYE HAS BECOME MORE CIRCULAR
BUT STILL OPEN SSE... COMPRISED OF TWO MAIN BANDS WHICH OVERLAP
CREATING DBL EYEWALL FEATURE, NNW THRU E.


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andy1tom
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Re: Changes in Charley Track?? [Re: WeatherNLU]
      #19572 - Thu Aug 12 2004 08:39 PM

thats what i was refering to. been out of the loop for a while but at lunch the wc and local tv were saying it should start to turn n by this afternoon..

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cyclone_head
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Re: Changes in Charley Track?? [Re: cyclone_head]
      #19573 - Thu Aug 12 2004 08:39 PM

This statement is somewhat why I posted earlier. It does seem to be a "quandry".

***UNFORTUNATELY...THERE IS SOMETHING OF A QUANDARY WITH THE
LATEST NHC MODEL GUIDANCE. THE NEW GFDL AND UKMET RUNS HAVE MADE A
WIDE TURN 75 TO 150 NMI LEFT OF THE PREVIOUS FORECAST TRACK...AND
MOST OF THE OTHER GLOBAL MODELS AND NHC MODELS HAVE ALSO MADE A
WESTWARD SHIFT. HOWEVER...THE 6- AND 12-HOUR GFDL AND UKMET
FORECAST POSITIONS ARE ALREADY 30 TO 60 NMI WEST OR LEFT OF THE
CURRENT POSITION AND MOTION. A STRONG UPSTREAM TROUGH NOTED DIGGING
SOUTHEASTWARD OVER THE NORTHWESTERN GULF OF MEXICO IN WATER VAPOR
IMAGERY SHOULD HELP TO BLOCK ANY SIGNIFICANT WESTWARD MOTION. BASED
ON THE DEVELOPING WESTERLY TO SOUTHWESTERLY SYNOPTIC FLOW PATTERN
OVER THE GULF...AND AN APPARENT LEFT BIAS BY MOST OF THE MODEL
GUIDANCE...THE OFFICIAL TRACK IS JUST AN UPDATE AND EXTENSION OF
THE PREVIOUS TWO FORECAST TRACKS.


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BillD
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Re: 5pm discussion/implications [Re: joepub1]
      #19574 - Thu Aug 12 2004 08:40 PM

I guess I used the wrong wording, I didn't mean they were doing it on purpose, just that it seemed so unusual for it to be that way for any other reason. If it is a server problem, then they have misconfigured their replication, load should not affect something like that if it is configured properly. No answers from the site because of load? Yes, inaccurate data? No.

Something is definitely broken on their site.

Bill


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javlin
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Re: Changes in Charley Track?? [Re: andy1tom]
      #19576 - Thu Aug 12 2004 08:44 PM

The front is to strong for it to go much further W.It looks to me like Charley is being good in the aspect of following the general path.I eluded the other night about a 3>5 degree move to W would be the breaker.The ULL to the W made sure that Charley went no further.Tension down there has to be tight.

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New Thread [Re: javlin]
      #19577 - Thu Aug 12 2004 08:50 PM

John C. let me (!) put up a new thread. Y'all (or all y'all) can head on over there now. I'll never live up to their standards, but I can try...

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Re: New Thread [Re: LI Phil]
      #19588 - Thu Aug 12 2004 09:05 PM

I have to give props to the on air Meteorologist on TV 28 in Tampa. Using a simple paper map, he gave one of the best explainations of the effects of various landfalls I have seen in a while.

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Re: Bonnie Stays a Tropical Storm Changes in Charley Track [Re: MikeC]
      #19837 - Fri Aug 13 2004 10:15 AM

I feel sorry for the people in america with all those storms.I live in canada and ive never seen a tornado or a hurricane before.I hope that the hurricane isnt bad and doest kill anyone.

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