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Tropical Storm Gordon Approaching North Gulf Coast
      #99459 - Mon Sep 03 2018 08:12 AM

7PM EDT Update 4 September 2018
Gordon is now a high-end Tropical Storm with maximum sustained winds in a few spots of about 70MPH. Recon is heading back in to see if any additional changes in intensity have occurred.

The cyclone may tighten up right before and/or into and/or just after landfall. This is to say, Gordon may become a more fully hurricane type of tropical cyclone at any time over the next six hours or so. A T.C. ramping up a full category into landfall is hardly unprecedented, and those in the Hurricane Warning should take it seriously, preparing for the worst, hoping for the best. Preparations should now be rushed to completion in the Hurricane Warning area.

As it is, clean doppler velocity scans at around 10,000' this this afternoon have been upwards of 90 MPH, and it is possible that Gordon will begin efficiently transferring these rates to the surface, at least in gusts. Wind gusts this high can cause significant damage to roofs, topple trees, snap power lines, roll trailers, etc.

During and after landfall, dangerous storm surge of up to three or four feet is expected. Surge this high can easily lift very heavy automobiles and send them uncontrollably up-current.

After landfall, Gordon's forward movement is forecast to slow down markedly, and both flash flooding and still some wind damage is likely well inland. Be prepared for power outages that may take some time to come back online. At least three days non-perishable food and many gallons of drinkable water per person always a good idea.

At least a couple of tornadoes are likely. Tropical cyclone tornadoes often strike with little or no warning. These tend to be EF 0s and 1s. But not always.

NHC:
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SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:

A Storm Surge Warning is in effect for...
* Shell Beach to Dauphin Island

A Storm Surge Watch is in effect for...
* West of Shell Beach to the Mouth of the Mississippi River
* East of Dauphin Island to Navarre

A Hurricane Warning is in effect for...
* Mouth of the Pearl River to the Alabama-Florida Border

A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for...
* West of the Mouth of the Pearl River to the Mouth of the
Mississippi River, including Lake Pontchartrain
* Alabama-Florida Border to Okaloosa-Walton County Line



-Ciel

7AM EDT Update 4 September 2018
Tropical Storm Gordon has held steady overnight and is making its run toward the Mississippi Gulf coast, most of the wind and convection associated with Gordon is on the east (sometimes well to the east) of the center of circulation, which has been exposed at times overnight.

Recorn recently found pressures of around 1001mb, so it still continues to gradually strengthen and probably has enough time to become a category 1 hurricane before landfall, thus hurricane warnings are up for the area. Impacts will likely be similar to Nate from last year. Small storms like Gordon, are susceptible to rapid intensity changes (both up and down), the upper level low weakening the southwest quadrant is moving away from Gordon this morning, so it is still worth watching. Those in the warning areas should prepare for a category 2 hurricane, and hope for less, but listen to local media and officials for your immediate area.

11AM EDT Update 3 September 2018

Hurricane Watches are now up along the northern Gulf coast for Gordon, from the Mouth of the Pearl River to the Alabama-Florida Border.

Gordon has continued to organize this morning ahead of schedule, but remains a Tropical Storm at the moment, with some strong wind reports from the Keys this morning. Recon is entering the system now to check it out.

Original Update
Tropical Storm Warnings are up for the Florida Keys and portions of S. Florida also in the North Gulf from AL/FL to Morgan City, LA as Tropical Storm Gordon forms near the Florida Keys this morning.

A 45MPH Tropcial Storm was what it was forecast to be in 36 hours from now at the 5AM Advisory. It's ahead of schedule.

The NHC upgraded based on some surface observations and radar, they will probably hold off any big forecast changes until the recon aircraft gets out to investigate it later today.

Gordon Event Related Links

Flhurricane Satellite Floater Animation of of Gordon - New for 2018


Animated Skeetobite Model Plot of Gordon


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SFWMD Model Plot (Animated Model Plot) SFWMD Hurricane Page


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Clark Evans Track Model Plot of Gordon (Animated!) Model Plots in Google Earth - In Google Maps
Clark Evans Intensity Model Plot of Gordon (Animated!)

Clark Evans Track Plot of Gordon

Other Model Charts from Clark

Clark Evans Top 10 Analog Storms for Gordon
More model runs on from RAL/Jonathan Vigh's page
NRL Info on Gordon -- RAMMB Info

Floater Satellite Images: Visible (Loop), IR (Loop), WV (Loop), Dvorak (Loop), AVN (Loop), RGB (Loop), Rainbow (Loop), Funktop (Loop), RB Top Loop)

Florence Event Related Links

Flhurricane Satellite Floater Animation of of Florence - New for 2018


Animated Skeetobite Model Plot of Florence


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SFWMD Model Plot (Animated Model Plot) SFWMD Hurricane Page


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Clark Evans Track Model Plot of Florence (Animated!) Model Plots in Google Earth - In Google Maps
Clark Evans Intensity Model Plot of Florence (Animated!)

Clark Evans Track Plot of Florence

Other Model Charts from Clark

Clark Evans Top 10 Analog Storms for Florence
More model runs on from RAL/Jonathan Vigh's page
NRL Info on Florence -- RAMMB Info

Floater Satellite Images: Visible (Loop), IR (Loop), WV (Loop), Dvorak (Loop), AVN (Loop), RGB (Loop), Rainbow (Loop), Funktop (Loop), RB Top Loop)

92L Event Related Links

Flhurricane Satellite Floater Animation of of 92L - New for 2018


Animated Skeetobite Model Plot of 92L


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SFWMD Model Plot (Animated Model Plot) SFWMD Hurricane Page


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Clark Evans Track Model Plot of 92L (Animated!) Model Plots in Google Earth - In Google Maps
Clark Evans Intensity Model Plot of 92L (Animated!)

Clark Evans Track Plot of 92L

Other Model Charts from Clark

Clark Evans Top 10 Analog Storms for 92L
More model runs on from RAL/Jonathan Vigh's page
NRL Info on 92L -- RAMMB Info

Floater Satellite Images: Visible (Loop), IR (Loop), WV (Loop), Dvorak (Loop), AVN (Loop), RGB (Loop), Rainbow (Loop), Funktop (Loop), RB Top Loop)


Mississippi/Alabama Gulf Coast Media/Links

WLOX TV 13 (ABC) Biloxi

WXXV TV 25 (Fox)Biloxi

WKRG TV 5 (CBS) Mobile

WPMI TV 15 (NBC) Mobile

WALA TV 10 (Fox) Mobile

WEAR TV 3 (ABC) Pensacola, FL

Newspapers

Mobile Register (Al.com) paper

Biloxi Sun Herald paper

Gulf Live

Radio (some)

News Talk 104.9 Biloxi, MS (Radio)

News talk 106.5 Mobile, AL (Radio)

Power Outage

Mississippi Power Outage Map

Alabama Power Outage Map

East Florida Links Southeast Composite Radar Loop (Latest Static) South to North:

Key West, FL Radar Long Range Radar Loop (Latest Static) Base (Static) 1 HR Rainfall (Static) Storm Total Rainfall (Static)

Miami, FL Radar Long Range Radar Loop (Latest Static) Base (Static) 1 HR Rainfall (Static) Storm Total Rainfall (Static)

Melbourne, FL Radar Long Range Radar Loop (Latest Static) Base (Static) 1 HR Rainfall (Static) Storm Total Rainfall (Static)

Jacksonville, FL Radar Long Range Radar Loop (Latest Static) Base (Static) 1 HR Rainfall (Static) Storm Total Rainfall (Static)


Caribbean/South East Coast Satellite Imagery


SFWMD Radar Loop of South Florida with storm Track


SFWMD Full Florida Radar Loop with Storm Track


Area Forecast Discussions: FLorida Keys - Miami/South Florida - Melbourne/East Central Florida - Jacksonville/Northeast Florida -

Northeast Gulf Links Southeast Composite Radar Loop (Latest Static)

Tampa Bay, FL Radar Long Range Radar Loop (Latest Static) Base (Static) 1 HR Rainfall (Static) Storm Total Rainfall (Static)

Key West, FL Radar Long Range Radar Loop (Latest Static) Base (Static) 1 HR Rainfall (Static) Storm Total Rainfall (Static)

Mobile, AL Radar Long Range Radar Loop (Latest Static) Base (Static) 1 HR Rainfall (Static) Storm Total Rainfall (Static)

Tallahassee FL Radar Long Range Radar Loop (Latest Static) Base (Static) 1 HR Rainfall (Static) Storm Total Rainfall (Static)

Northwest Florida Radar Long Range Radar Loop (Latest Static) Base (Static) 1 HR Rainfall (Static) Storm Total Rainfall (Static)

Gulf of Mexico Satellite Imagery

SFWMD Full Florida Radar (Includes east LA, MS,AL) Loop with Storm Track

Area Forecast Discussions: New Orleans - Mississippi/Alabama/Pensacola - Panhandle/Tallahassee - Tampa/West Central Florida
North Gulf Links North Gulf/Southern Mississippi Valley Composite Radar Loop (Latest Static) East to West:

Mobile, AL Radar Long Range Radar Loop (Latest Static) Base (Static) 1 HR Rainfall (Static) Storm Total Rainfall (Static)

New Orleans, LA Radar Long Range Radar Loop (Latest Static) Base (Static) 1 HR Rainfall (Static) Storm Total Rainfall (Static)

Lake Charles, LA Radar Long Range Radar Loop (Latest Static) Base (Static) 1 HR Rainfall (Static) Storm Total Rainfall (Static)

Houston/Galveston, TX Radar Long Range Radar Loop (Latest Static) Base (Static) 1 HR Rainfall (Static) Storm Total Rainfall (Static)

Gulf of Mexico Satellite Imagery

Area Forecast Discussions: Mississippi/Alabama/Pensacola - New Orleans, LA - Lake Charles, LA - Houston/Galveston, TX

Edited by cieldumort (Tue Sep 04 2018 07:05 PM)


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Re: Tropical Storm Gordon forms Near the Florida Keys [Re: MikeC]
      #99461 - Mon Sep 03 2018 10:41 AM

A recent storm report from NWS Key West showed 65mph sustained winds at Carysport Reef.

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Re: Tropical Storm Gordon forms Near the Florida Keys [Re: MikeC]
      #99462 - Mon Sep 03 2018 11:40 AM

Radar suggests the track is a bit east of the projected as exhibited on ahe SWFMD site

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Re: Tropical Storm Gordon forms Near the Florida Keys [Re: doug]
      #99464 - Mon Sep 03 2018 11:56 AM

Let us know what you are seeing locally at http://flhurricane.com/cyclone/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=99463&page=1&vc=1#Post994632

Recon is showing it continue to rapidly organize this morning, the 12Z GFS is all but worthless since it does not match whats going on right now.


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Re: Tropical Storm Gordon forms Near the Florida Keys [Re: MikeC]
      #99465 - Mon Sep 03 2018 01:28 PM

A little hint of an eye has appeared on the My Radar app on my IPad...could be an artifact

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Re: Tropical Storm Gordon forms Near the Florida Keys [Re: doug]
      #99466 - Mon Sep 03 2018 01:53 PM

Definitely has taken bit of a NNW jog past few hours, now center just west of Marco Island. Be interesting to see how long this movement continues before it resumes NW path.

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Re: Tropical Storm Gordon forms Near the Florida Keys [Re: Joeyfl]
      #99467 - Mon Sep 03 2018 02:17 PM

I think it is closer to NW as it is not parallel to the coastline which is essentially NNW. It certainly is not WNW. Can it gain intensity quickly over the really warm water? That’s what I will be watching now

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Re: Tropical Storm Gordon forms Near the Florida Keys [Re: doug]
      #99468 - Mon Sep 03 2018 02:24 PM

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A little hint of an eye has appeared on the My Radar app on my IPad...could be an artifact




See the same thing, but it must be an artifact, or a transient center clearing. Pressures are too high and winds are too low to support any real inner core of winds.

At least that's my on the feature

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Re: Tropical Storm Gordon forms Near the Florida Keys [Re: Bloodstar]
      #99469 - Mon Sep 03 2018 02:49 PM

I see quite a bit of shear in the radar presentation north an west of the low center not so much to the east and southeast

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Re: Tropical Storm Gordon forms Near the Florida Keys [Re: Bloodstar]
      #99470 - Mon Sep 03 2018 02:51 PM

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A little hint of an eye has appeared on the My Radar app on my IPad...could be an artifact



See the same thing, but it must be an artifact, or a transient center clearing. Pressures are too high and winds are too low to support any real inner core of winds.

At least that's my on the feature




The ambient SLPs are relatively high. 1004mb is thereby low on a relative basis. The last recon pass through Gordon found 4mb drop in just 3 hours. The eyewall has shown multiple clean velocity scans well into upper-end tropical storm force, but off and on, or if you like, consistently inconsistent - but also consistent with the 65 MPH (56 KT) sustained wind from the Mesonet site NWS Key West reported earlier this morning.

IMHO, it is more likely than not that this is the development of an inner core and incipient eye (Would put the odds of this above 95%). However, that said, Gordon is a small/mid-sized TC with a very small inner core, and will likely be subject to rapid fluctuations (up and down) of intensity.

The track ahead is actually one of generally favorable shear and hearty SSTs, so an overall strengthening trend possibly with episodes of R.I. looks on target. Cat 1/2 hurricane at landfall seems to me very plausible - less or even slightly higher - depending.

*Edited to correct for pressure drop. (4mb not 6mb - finalized in the second vortex message).

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Re: Tropical Storm Gordon forms Near the Florida Keys [Re: doug]
      #99471 - Mon Sep 03 2018 03:05 PM

The WV loop seems to demonstrate an override of dryer air from the NW which has inhibited development north and west.

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Re: Tropical Storm Gordon forms Near the Florida Keys [Re: doug]
      #99478 - Mon Sep 03 2018 09:36 PM

Gordon is moving a bit to fast, looks like the existing center is starting to be exposed (and shifting west overall). The Upper Level low to the SW is keeping that side of it from going, while the east is blowing up big convection. Pretty messy setup, I think strengthening has halted for now (it may likely weaken for the 11PM) There's a chance the center may reform to the east, it may get interesting again midday tomorrow.


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Re: Tropical Storm Gordon forms Near the Florida Keys [Re: MikeC]
      #99479 - Mon Sep 03 2018 10:38 PM



Third pass through has found pressure leveling out at around 1005, but winds increasing - now a more conclusive argument for 50KT and possibly 55KT at 11.

The shear, dry air, and rapid movement others have noted appear to be the only thing keeping Gordon from ramping up fast, but so far, they do not appear to be weakening the tropical cyclone. Caveat being Gordon's small inner core is certainly putting at risk along the track should at any time conditions become less hospitable, for a significant drop in intensity.

CIMSS analyzes shear of 25 knots just to the circulation's north, but so far, this is nowhere near the core. More importantly, that shear will probably ease up should, as expected, deeper convection blow up over a wider area, bolstering the upper-level high aloft (and thus fending off that shear, or even weakening the shearing ULL altogether).


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Re: Tropical Storm Gordon Approaching North Gulf Coast [Re: MikeC]
      #99484 - Tue Sep 04 2018 09:51 PM

Looks like Gordon has ingested a bit of dry air within the past hour - that relentless higher-than-forecast shear others have noted above taking a toll, no doubt. Very close to hurricane, but probably in the books as high-end T.S. Clean radar velocities of up to 80 MPH at 1,500' may easily still produce a hurricane-force gust here and there - just not as possible for sustained. The eyewall has been fanning out. Good sign for those in the inner core of Gordon's immediate direct path, but issues to come. Water rising rapidly now in places, etc.

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Re: Tropical Storm Gordon Approaching North Gulf Coast [Re: MikeC]
      #99485 - Tue Sep 04 2018 11:25 PM

Spoke too soon last time. Gordon is still deepening into landfall with winds increasing - at least just above the surface - might happen to get a note in real time, but at a minimum, absolutely now a candidate for post-season reanalysis.

For those in Gordon, best to treat this like a landfalling Cat 1, regardless. Solid data to back that up, too.


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