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News Talkback >> 2004 News Talkbacks

clyde w.
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From NWS Melbourne
      Thu Sep 02 2004 04:14 PM

Great discussion from the Melbourne NWS office. Here's and excerpt:

FRI-SUN...CURRENT TPC TRACK IS IN FINE SHAPE AND EXPECTED IMPACTS
WELL PUT FORTH. HAVE BEEN WITNESSING SEVERAL TROCHOIDAL WOBBLES TODAY
DUE MAINLY TO INTENSE EYEWALL CONVECTION ROTATING AROUND THE NORTH
SIDE OF THE SYSTEM...AND PERHAPS OWING TO A LITTLE WEAKNESS AT
H30-H20 HEIGHT FIELDS FROM THE ELONGATED CARCASS OF THE TUTT LOW
THAT HAD BEEN IN FRONT OF FRANCES SEVERAL DAYS AGO. THE MEAN LAYER
RIDGE TO THE NORTH REMAINS MODERATELY STRONG FROM 400MB AND
BELOW...AND EXTENDS WEST OF 80W.

THE SLOW FORWARD SPEED AND LARGE WIND RADII PORTEND A LONGER PERIOD
OF WIND/SURGE IMPACTS OVER A WIDER AREA. THIS ALSO HAS A VERY HIGH
POTENTIAL TO RESULT IN SOME VERY...VERY HIGH 2-3 DAY RAINFALL TOTALS.
THE NATIONAL/REGIONAL GUIDANCE SUGGESTS BASIN *AVERAGE* RAINFALL
TOTALS OF NINE INCHES...WITH LOCAL AMOUNTS OF 20 INCHES OR SO...
ACROSS THE WHOLE OF ECFL BY THE TIME ALL IS SAID AND DONE. THIS IS
VERY DEPENDENT ON FRANCES' TRACK...AND ESPECIALLY HER FORWARD SPEED.

***AS THIS LARGE...POWERFUL...AND VERY DANGEROUS HURRICANE
APPROACHES THE COAST...SEVERAL VERY IMPORTANT POINTS TO USERS NEED
BE MADE HERE***

1) BEACUSE OF THE OBLIQUE ANGLE AT WHICH FRANCES IS EXPECTED TO
APPROACH THE COAST...EMPHASIS *STILL* SHOULD NOT BE PLACED ON THE
POINT OF THE PROJECTED LANDFALL OF THE CENTER. FRANCES' WIND FIELD
IS VERY LARGE: TROPICAL STORM FORCE OR GREATER WINDS ENCOMPASS MORE
THAN 50,000 SQUARE MILES. PREPARATIONS SHOULD BE MADE THROUGHOUT THE
HURRICANE WATCH AREA ASSUMING A *DIRECT* HIT FROM A MAJOR HURRICANE.

2) ATTEMPTING TO EXTRAPOLATE SHORT TERM (1-3HR) TROCHOIDAL WOBBLES
INTO A LONGER TERM MOTION IS PRONE TO BE ERRONEOUS...ESPECIALLY
GIVEN THE CURRENT FORWARD SPEED...WHICH IS ABOUT 10 MPH LESS THAN
HURRICANE CHARLEY WAS MOVING AT LANDFALL.

3) FOR THOSE LOOKING FOR COMPARISONS TO FLOYD...THE SYNOPTIC PATTERNS
BETWEEN FLOYD AND FRANCES ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. THERE IS NO
SHORT WAVE TROUGH OF SIGNIFICANT AMPLITUDE OVER OR APPROACHING THE
SOUTHEAST UNITED STATES OR WESTERN ATLANTIC. SEE REFERENCES TO THE
MEAN RIDGE EARLIER IN DISC.

4) FOR USERS OF OUR GRIDDED WIND PRODUCTS...THE WIND FORECASTS
REMAIN CAPPED AT 50 KNOTS IN THE 37 TO 72 HOUR TIME FRAME DUE TO
FORECAST UNCERTAINTY AT EXTENDED RANGES...AND 34 KNOTS PAST 72
HOURS. THIS RESULTS IN SOME UNUSUAL DOWNWARD JUMPS IN SPEEDS ON
FRIDAY NIGHT...AND AGAIN ON SUNDAY MORNING. AS HURRICANE IMPACTS
MOVE TO WITHIN THE 36 HOUR TIME FRAME...WIND SPEEDS WILL BE RAMPED
UP SIGNIFICANTLY.

ALL RESIDENTS SHOULD RUSH TO COMPLETION THEIR HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS
PLANS. OUTER RAINBANDS COULD APPROACH THE SE COAST BY FRIDAY MORNING
...WITH TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS IMPINGING ON THE MARTIN/ST. LUCIE
COAST LINES AS EARLY AS FRIDAY AFT0ERNOON. RAIN & WIND WILL INCREASE
FROM SE TO NW ACROSS CWA WITH THE GREATEST IMPACT EXPECTED SATURDAY.
AS WITH HURRICANE CHARLEY...THE POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR DAMAGING WINDS
TO SPREAD FAR INLAND...WITH INLAND WINDS HAVING THE POTENTIAL TO
RIVAL OR EXCEED THOSE EXPERIENCED SEVERAL WEEKS AGO.

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* It Shifts Left MikeCAdministrator Thu Sep 02 2004 04:14 PM
. * * From NWS Melbourne clyde w.   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:14 PM
. * * Re: From NWS Melbourne Colleen A.   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:24 PM
. * * Re: From NWS Melbourne clyde w.   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:30 PM
. * * 5pm just in HCW   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:32 PM
. * * Re: 5pm just in RevUp   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:37 PM
. * * looks nice in boca Domino   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:39 PM
. * * Re: From NWS Melbourne HCW   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:19 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left bob07   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:44 PM
. * * blink HanKFranK   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:03 PM
. * * Re: blink jth   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:10 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left DroopGB31   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:53 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Rabbit   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:00 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Mark Bendiksen   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:58 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left wxman007   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:56 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left andy1tom   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:10 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left DroopGB31   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:04 PM
. * * Thoughts.... wxman007   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:13 PM
. * * question from Gainesville guestfromGville   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:49 PM
. * * Re: question from Gainesville wxman007   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:55 PM
. * * Re: question from Gainesville Terry51   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:21 PM
. * * Re: question from Gainesville Terry Johnson   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:21 PM
. * * SWIMMING POOL SCREEN CAGES Lake Toho - Kissimmee   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:59 PM
. * * Shelters safe or leave completely? ShadowWind   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:07 PM
. * * Re: Shelters safe or leave completely? RevUp   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:20 PM
. * * Re: Frances - did she make the turn ticka1   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:06 PM
. * * Re: Frances - did she make the turn MrSpock   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:20 PM
. * * Re: Frances - did she make the turn jth   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:32 PM
. * * Re: Frances - did she make the turn MikeCAdministrator   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:33 PM
. * * MLB AFD wxman007   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:41 PM
. * * Re: MLB AFD clyde w.   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:58 PM
. * * Re: MLB AFD wxman007   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:59 PM
. * * Re: MLB AFD bmw   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:04 PM
. * * Re: Frances - did she make the turn Jeffmidtown   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:39 PM
. * * Re: Frances - did she make the turn Ronn   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:19 PM
. * * Re: SWIMMING POOL SCREEN CAGES Jeffmidtown   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:06 PM
. * * Re: Thoughts.... Wxwatcher2   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:47 PM
. * * Cape Coral Wendell   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:24 PM
. * * Interesting coincidences.... Londovir   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:57 PM
. * * Pinpoint Weather.... wxman007   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:32 PM
. * * Re: Pinpoint Weather.... Wxwatcher2   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:41 PM
. * * Re: Pinpoint Weather.... jth   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:47 PM
. * * Strom Surge Map for Space Coast Rubber Ducky   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:25 PM
. * * Interesting discussion from NWS MLB Jamiewx   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:38 PM
. * * Re: Pinpoint Weather.... Shawn W.   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:46 PM
. * * Re: Pinpoint Weather.... UPPERLEVEL WINDS   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:25 PM
. * * Re: Pinpoint Weather.... fred08   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:41 PM
. * * Re: Pinpoint Weather.... DroopGB31   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:55 PM
. * * Re: Pinpoint Weather.... Orlando, FL   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:03 PM
. * * Re: Pinpoint Weather.... wxman007   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:52 PM
. * * Re: Pinpoint Weather.... Shawn W.   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:54 PM
. * * Flood Watches Extended in Florida Colleen A.   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:19 PM
. * * Re: Pinpoint Weather.... Colleen A.   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:45 PM
. * * Re: Pinpoint Weather.... wxman007   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:44 PM
. * * Max Mayfield Colleen A.   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:54 PM
. * * Re: Cape Coral DroopGB31   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:32 PM
. * * Scary2 LI Phil   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:23 PM
. * * New Vortex... wxman007   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:20 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left HCW   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:50 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left LI Phil   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:00 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left HCW   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:22 PM
. * * Models SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:56 PM
. * * P.S. SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:59 PM
. * * Scary... LI Phil   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:48 PM
. * * Re: Scary... jth   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:59 PM
. * * Re: Scary... alan   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:59 PM
. * * Re: Scary... LI Phil   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:05 PM
. * * Re: Scary... SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:10 PM
. * * Re: Scary... alan   Thu Sep 02 2004 03:07 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left bob07   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:35 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left J Thomas   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:30 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left pjoo   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:44 PM
. * * Airport Ops at Orlando Fredric   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:40 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Londovir   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:39 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left alan   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:38 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left scottsvb1   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:42 PM
. * * Why would it stall alan   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:39 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left HCRay   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:35 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left DroopGB31   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:44 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left crm9501   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:22 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left HCW   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:23 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left andy1tom   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:32 PM
. * * Thanks, Mike LI Phil   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:25 PM
. * * Re: Thanks, Mike DJINFLA   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:49 PM
. * * Re: Thanks, Mike Shawn W.   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:31 PM
. * * Re: Thanks, Mike eligrace   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:48 PM
. * * Re: JB *Teal61   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:45 PM
. * * OK.... wxman007   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:50 PM
. * * Re: OK.... SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:57 PM
. * * Re: OK.... wxman007   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:03 PM
. * * Re: OK.... doug   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:17 PM
. * * Re: OK.... MikeCAdministrator   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:21 PM
. * * Eye Replacing SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:30 PM
. * * Dvorak's LI Phil   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:20 PM
. * * Re: Thanks, Mike HCW   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:33 PM
. * * Re: Thanks, Mike Bloodstar   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:42 PM
. * * Re: traffic fred08   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:38 PM
. * * Re: Thanks, Mike Shawn W.   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:36 PM
. * * Re: Thanks, Mike SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:47 PM
. * * Palm Beach County WXMAN RICHIE   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:45 PM
. * * Re: eywall john03   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:59 PM
. * * Re: Palm Beach County alan   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:49 PM
. * * Re: Palm Beach County andy1tom   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:03 PM
. * * Re: Palm Beach County SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:10 PM
. * * Re: turning north, please please please Rasvar   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:14 PM
. * * Latest thoughts WXMAN RICHIE   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:59 PM
. * * Track Comparison - Andrew, Floyd, Frances, Donna Bev   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:07 PM
. * * Re: Track Comparison - Andrew, Floyd, Frances, Donna Londovir   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:23 PM
. * * Re: Track Comparison - Andrew, Floyd, Frances, Donna Artsy Fartsy   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:23 PM
. * * Update LI Phil   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:11 PM
. * * Re: Update SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:14 PM
. * * Stuart, fl Robert   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:49 PM
. * * Re: Stuart, fl CASps   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:58 PM
. * * Re: Floyd/Andrew/Frances overlay Artsy Fartsy   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:44 PM
. * * Re: Floyd/Andrew/Frances overlay MikeCAdministrator   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:47 PM
. * * Re: Thanks, Mike alan   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:41 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left nervous/curious   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:17 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Sadie   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:10 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left kelcot   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:14 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Kruz   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:21 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:24 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left GulfSide   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:51 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Shawn W.   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:36 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left AgentB   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:50 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left kelcot   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:42 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left andy1tom   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:54 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left kelcot   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:57 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left andy1tom   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:13 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Jeffmidtown   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:46 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left kelcot   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:53 PM
. * * Frances, Floyd and Andrew LI Phil   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:01 PM
. * * Re: Frances, Floyd and Andrew SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Thu Sep 02 2004 02:58 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Jeffmidtown   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:56 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left alan   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:42 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Wxwatcher2   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:29 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left UGAdawgz   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:43 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left TAZMAN   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:35 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:24 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left ticka1   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:20 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Terra D   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:39 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Ed G   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:52 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:10 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:16 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left eligrace   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:13 PM
. * * Miami Beach told to evacuate Jeffmidtown   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:09 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Colleen A.   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:40 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left ned1316   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:10 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:06 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left JimAnderson   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:19 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left HCW   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:18 AM
. * * Various Thoughts Colleen A.   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:00 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Ricreig   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:12 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left TAZMAN   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:19 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left DroopGB31   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:37 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left RevUp   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:00 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:45 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left deborah2002   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:04 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Frank P   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:27 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left dzinermw   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:05 AM
. * * my thoughts and questions LoisCane   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:30 AM
. * * Re: my thoughts and questions Chelsie   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:47 AM
. * * Re: my thoughts and questions Proflhb   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:32 AM
. * * Re: my thoughts and questions Chelsie   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:34 AM
. * * Re: my thoughts and questions c ray   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:45 AM
. * * Re: my thoughts and questions Ricreig   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:51 AM
. * * Re: my thoughts and questions c ray   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:13 PM
. * * Jacksonville Update Proflhb   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:40 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left storm1   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:20 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left scottsvb1   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:32 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Felix   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:05 AM
. * * Advice from Punta Gorda Proflhb   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:09 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left mojorox   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:39 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left jth   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:42 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left cooljunkie   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:10 AM
. * * to high rise junkie lois   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:11 PM
. * * Re: to high rise junkie MikeCAdministrator   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:13 PM
. * * Charley Lessons... the hard way. Bev   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:36 PM
. * * Yikes! LI Phil   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:46 PM
. * * Re: Yikes! Shawn W.   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:01 PM
. * * Re: Yikes! doug   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:57 PM
. * * Re: Charley Lessons... the hard way. RAD,not logged   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:41 PM
. * * Re: Charley Lessons... the hard way. alicia   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:56 PM
. * * Re: Charley Lessons... the hard way. lilyv   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:02 PM
. * * NW all the way! SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 01:07 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left MikeCAdministrator   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:16 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Frank P   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:21 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left trinibaje   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:26 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Ed in Va   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:28 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left luki   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:15 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Frank P   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:59 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left ticka1   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:25 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Bocagirl   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:23 AM
. * * Hobson's Choice in coastal Brevard RubberDucky   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:09 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Shawn W.   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:38 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Mousie5   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:51 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left skippy1   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:22 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left scottsvb1   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:25 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left skippy1   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:29 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left scottsvb1   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:27 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left GuppieGrouper   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:25 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left lis   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:43 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left NLBJAX   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:07 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left jth   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:12 PM
. * * News from Jacksonville Proflhb   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:48 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Humanriff   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:05 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left crm9501   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:48 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left skippy1   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:12 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Fingers1116   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:59 AM
. * * decision day... nickyd   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:10 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left anony   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:41 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left TAZMAN   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:43 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left LisaP   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:40 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Cocoa Beach   Thu Sep 02 2004 12:44 PM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Ricreig   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:04 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left RevUp   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:27 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left GuppieGrouper   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:57 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Rmh   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:51 AM
. * * Re: It Shifts Left Shawn W.   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:49 AM

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