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Colleen A.
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Turns, Twists & Tempers
      Tue Sep 14 2004 11:39 AM

If anyone looked at the picture they just showed on the Weather Channel, it certainly looked to be going NORTH at THAT PRECISE MOMENT IN TIME.
People are allowed to say what they see, and I don't think that meto was "wishcasting" anything.
As far as the storm not turning, at this point, I think that the NHC is becoming more confident in it's track and I do not think that Ivan will make a hard right and turn into Tampa Bay. That being said, today is Tuesday, landfall is supposed to occur around Thursday. That's 2 days away. I believe with Frances 2 days out they were forecasting it to possibly move up the coast of the Carolinas, and even some people here were agreeing with that forecast. The bottom line is this: Frances turned, Charley turned. When did they turn? Charley turned about 4 hours before he was supposed to hit Tampa. Frances turned and kept everyone on their toes for about 12 hours. I don't think it was until she almost made landfall that they were able to nail the precise place. Two days out, a little shove to the north, maybe a little bit of of turn to the east and the forecast changes again for a whole lot of people. I'm not say this is going to happen, I'm saying it's POSSIBLE. Hopefully, the models have a good handle on this thing right now and we're only 2 days away so I don't see a huge track shift coming in the future.
Tarpon---this is kind of ironic, but you posted about Dennis Phillips and how irresponsible his comments were last night. I watched him and he said "IF THIS NORTHWARD MOVEMENT CONTINUES, AND IT COULD BE JUST A JOG, THEN I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE A CHANGE IN THE TRACK TO THE RIGHT". He was correct about the models not getting the new info because it had just started that trend. At 5:15pm, only two of the models had the new info and they DID swing it to the right. However, if you listened to him during the following hours, he corrected himself many times, as he was doing updates every 1/2 hour. I was watching the game and I saw him. At 12:something, he said it WAS JUST A JOG. I don't think he was being irresponsible. The reason I say it is ironic is because when I was on him about Frances, you were defending him as being one of the best out there. Go figure. Just like us, he saw the northward movement, too. Then it moved again to the NW.

I think all Floridians are a little uncomfortable and testy right now. We've been on STORM ALERT mode for over a month. Nerves are frayed, tempers are flaring and these things bring out the best and worst of us. We need to try and remember that when posting to one another. We're all in the same boat. I know I said a lot of prayers last night asking that this storm comes in well below a Cat 5 because after seeing two come directly over me, a Cat 1 isn't any fun either.

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* Hurricane Watches Up from Morgan City, LA to St. Marks Florida MikeCAdministrator Tue Sep 14 2004 11:39 AM
. * * Good Link to a Moored Bouy close to Ivans path cocoa Beach   Tue Sep 14 2004 10:40 AM
. * * Hurricane, storms, depressions & waves SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Tue Sep 14 2004 01:15 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane, storms, depressions & waves Steve hirschb.   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:37 AM
. * * Jean as fish? Ed in Va   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:38 AM
. * * Ready in Mobile HCW   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:38 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Watches Up from Morgan City, LA to St. Marks Florida 103177   Tue Sep 14 2004 01:06 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Watches Up from Morgan City, LA to St. Marks Florida Redbird   Tue Sep 14 2004 11:42 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Watches Up from Morgan City, LA to St. Marks Florida anon   Tue Sep 14 2004 11:51 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Watches Up from Morgan City, LA to St. Marks Florida ddrehman   Tue Sep 14 2004 11:56 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Watches Up from Morgan City, LA to St. Marks Florida anon   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:28 PM
. * * NEW THREAD!!! LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:01 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Watches Up from Morgan City, LA to St. Marks Florida USFTampa   Tue Sep 14 2004 01:10 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Watches Up from Morgan City, LA to St. Marks Florida Clark   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:33 AM
. * * Updated maps - NHC Advisory 47 SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:51 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Watches Up from Morgan City, LA to St. Marks Florida KornR   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:45 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Watches Up from Morgan City, LA to St. Marks Florida BillD   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:08 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Watches Up from Morgan City, LA to St. Marks Florida BillD   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:29 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Watches Up from Morgan City, LA to St. Marks Florida meto   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:42 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Watches Up from Morgan City, LA to St. Marks Florida BabyCat   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:11 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Watches Up from Morgan City, LA to St. Marks Florida LI Phil   Mon Sep 13 2004 10:48 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Watches Up from Morgan City, LA to St. Marks Florida LI Phil   Mon Sep 13 2004 10:53 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Watches Up from Morgan City, LA to St. Marks Florida rule   Mon Sep 13 2004 10:52 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Watches Up from Morgan City, LA to St. Marks Florida Frank P   Mon Sep 13 2004 10:55 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Watches Up from Morgan City, LA to St. Marks Florida danielwAdministrator   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:16 PM
. * * Repost dani   Mon Sep 13 2004 10:53 PM
. * * Repost on new ETA MrSpock   Mon Sep 13 2004 10:55 PM
. * * Re: Repost on new ETA Steveunplugged   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:11 PM
. * * Re: Repost on new ETA MrSpock   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:18 PM
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. * * Good Luck! Justin in Miami   Tue Sep 14 2004 10:08 AM
. * * Hunkering Down tpratch   Tue Sep 14 2004 09:16 AM
. * * Re: Repost on new ETA Steve   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:32 AM
. * * Re: Repost on new ETA jth   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:41 AM
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. * * Hey Mike RedingtonBeachGuy   Tue Sep 14 2004 09:15 AM
. * * Re: Hey Mike MikeCAdministrator   Tue Sep 14 2004 09:27 AM
. * * Re: Hey Mike AdmittedHacker   Tue Sep 14 2004 10:04 AM
. * * Re: Hey Mike Nobody important   Tue Sep 14 2004 09:49 AM
. * * Re: Hey Mike JackLove   Tue Sep 14 2004 09:58 AM
. * * Re: Hey Mike mlamay   Tue Sep 14 2004 09:22 AM
. * * Re: Hey Mike Tarpon   Tue Sep 14 2004 10:00 AM
. * * Re: Hey Mike scottsvb   Tue Sep 14 2004 10:06 AM
. * * Re: Hey Mike tpratch   Tue Sep 14 2004 10:05 AM
. * * Re: Repost on new ETA jth   Tue Sep 14 2004 09:12 AM
. * * Re: Repost on new ETA Tallahassee   Tue Sep 14 2004 09:15 AM
. * * Re: Repost on new ETA JackLove   Tue Sep 14 2004 09:52 AM
. * * Re: Repost on new ETA Ed in Va   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:47 AM
. * * Recon dani   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:31 AM
. * * Re: Repost on new ETA Novice   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:21 AM
. * * Re: Repost on new ETA jth off   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:42 PM
. * * Re: Repost on new ETA MrSpock   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:37 PM
. * * I'm Confused! SoonerShawn   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:24 PM
. * * Re: Repost on new ETA LI Phil   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:23 PM
. * * Re: Repost on new ETA scottsvb   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:23 PM
. * * Re: Repost on new ETA Frank P   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:17 PM
. * * Re: Repost on new ETA clyde w.   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:17 PM
. * * Watch/warning width BeachBum   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:47 PM
. * * Re: Repost on new ETA BabyCat   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:22 PM
. * * Re: Storm Surge and Waves danielwAdministrator   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:35 PM
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. * * Re: Storm Surge and Waves BillD   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:47 PM
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. * * Re: Recon danielwAdministrator   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:58 PM
. * * Re: Storm Surge and Waves BabyCat   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:42 PM
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. * * Re: Repost on new ETA jth off   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:50 PM
. * * Re: Repost on new ETA meto   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:54 PM
. * * Re: Repost on new ETA jth off   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:01 AM
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. * * storm surge BabyCat   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:15 AM
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. * * Re: Repost on new ETA Colleen A.   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:17 AM
. * * Re: Recon Eye Fix danielwAdministrator   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:12 AM
. * * OOZ GFS... wxman007   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:56 PM
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. * * Re: Center danielwAdministrator   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:37 AM
. * * Re: Musings at 1:45AM chinook   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:43 AM
. * * Re: Musings at 1:45AM MrSpock   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:43 AM
. * * Re:1000z Update danielwAdministrator   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:20 AM
. * * Re: OOZ GFS... jth off   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:03 AM
. * * Re: OOZ GFS...Upon Further Inspection... wxman007   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:08 AM
. * * 00z NOGAPS wxman007   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:14 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS mud1967   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:29 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS Clark   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:38 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS mud1967   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:54 AM
. * * would you? waatcher   Tue Sep 14 2004 01:01 AM
. * * Re: would you? ShanaTX   Tue Sep 14 2004 01:18 AM
. * * Re: would you? danielwAdministrator   Tue Sep 14 2004 01:05 AM
. * * Re: would you? waatcher   Tue Sep 14 2004 01:18 AM
. * * Re: would you? danielwAdministrator   Tue Sep 14 2004 01:30 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS USFTampa   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:21 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS scottsvb   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:19 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS tenavilla   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:29 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS Wxwatcher2   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:33 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS tenavilla   Tue Sep 14 2004 09:51 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS mlamay   Tue Sep 14 2004 09:54 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS Ronn   Tue Sep 14 2004 10:43 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS Wxwatcher2   Tue Sep 14 2004 10:52 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS meto   Tue Sep 14 2004 10:56 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS STORM CHASER   Tue Sep 14 2004 11:04 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS richisurfs   Tue Sep 14 2004 11:09 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS meto   Tue Sep 14 2004 11:12 AM
. * * Turns, Twists & Tempers Colleen A.   Tue Sep 14 2004 11:39 AM
. * * Re: Turns, Twists & Tempers Tarpon   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:19 PM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS richisurfs   Tue Sep 14 2004 11:16 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS doug   Tue Sep 14 2004 11:33 AM
. * * NEW THREAD LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 11:34 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS rmbjoe1954   Tue Sep 14 2004 11:11 AM
. * * TS Jeanne Justin in Miami   Tue Sep 14 2004 10:49 AM
. * * Strengthening prior to landfall??? jth   Tue Sep 14 2004 10:56 AM
. * * Re: Strengthening prior to landfall??? tenavilla   Tue Sep 14 2004 11:02 AM
. * * Re: Strengthening prior to landfall??? doug   Tue Sep 14 2004 11:13 AM
. * * Re: Strengthening prior to landfall??? tpratch   Tue Sep 14 2004 11:10 AM
. * * Re: Strengthening prior to landfall??? richisurfs   Tue Sep 14 2004 11:12 AM
. * * 11am update tpratch   Tue Sep 14 2004 10:51 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS jth   Tue Sep 14 2004 10:47 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS tpratch   Tue Sep 14 2004 10:49 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS Spectrum24   Tue Sep 14 2004 10:07 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS richisurfs   Tue Sep 14 2004 10:52 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS Tarpon   Tue Sep 14 2004 10:37 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS anonymous   Tue Sep 14 2004 09:58 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS MrSpock   Tue Sep 14 2004 10:36 AM
. * * TV out of New Orleans Wxwatcher2   Tue Sep 14 2004 10:41 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS Elaine H   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:43 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS scottsvb   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:34 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS tenavilla   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:48 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS scottsvb   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:38 AM
. * * Clark, MrSpock   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:28 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS Clark   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:41 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS scottsvb   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:42 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS Clark   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:48 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS scottsvb   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:51 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS scottsvb   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:40 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS jth off   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:27 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS scottsvb   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:29 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS jth off   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:18 AM
. * * Re: 00z NOGAPS kelcot   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:16 AM
. * * Re: OOZ GFS... MrSpock   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:07 AM
. * * Re: OOZ GFS... danielwAdministrator   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:02 AM
. * * Miss Sound waves Frank P   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:17 AM
. * * Re: OOZ GFS... Kent   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:06 AM
. * * Re: OOZ GFS... SoonerShawn   Tue Sep 14 2004 12:05 AM
. * * Re: Repost on new ETA Steve   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:56 PM
. * * Re: Repost on new ETA LI Phil   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:14 PM
. * * Re: Repost on new ETA Wxwatcher2   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:24 PM
. * * Re: Repost on new ETA DroopGB31   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:34 PM
. * * Keys are windy Kdubs   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:44 PM
. * * Scotts Post... LI Phil   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:28 PM
. * * Re: Repost on new ETA Colleen A.   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:05 PM
. * * Re: Repost on new ETA LI Phil   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:08 PM
. * * Re: Repost on new ETA kirdona   Mon Sep 13 2004 11:12 PM

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