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Re: Skeetobite Map Project
      Wed Dec 01 2004 08:12 PM

Richard, I haven't heard back from NHC yet, but will post in detaill when I do.

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Not happy with ANY of the NHC alternatives.

That's all I posted at first, then figured just complaining is not a good thing---one should offer an alternative if one is unhappy with what has been presented.

Graphics need to be more like JTWC, should also show swaths and probable path ellipses as now, except instead of just one ellipse, should show with percentages superimposed in the CEP circles--ie, one line/ellipse means there is an 80% probability the storm will move within that ellipse, next is 50%, and last ellipse shows the total probable error over the forecast period, just as is done now.

FWIW.

MM




A serious challenge to anyone seeking to disseminate information is how to best present the data in a fashion that holds the greatest value for the greatest share of your audience. No one (1) map, by NHC, Skeetobite or anyone else will give all of the relevant details for all parties. A number of new maps are required. Casual users want something pretty, enthusiasts want tons of data and those folks stopping by because they heard a hurricane is coming to their area need a graphical depiction of the specific threat that they can understand at a glance and take action.

We started adding comments to the maps because we found that the storms were so large in area that anyone living within the entire map was affected to one degree or another. This was especially true of Frances. These comments included; “Tropical Storm force winds extend 200 miles from the center of the storm. All areas on this map are affected”, “Hurricane force winds extend x miles from center”.

I believe that the accuracy of the NRL wind field maps combined with the forecast path, overlaid on a real street map is the best way to go. One major problem is that the NRL wind field maps are for winds occurring over the ocean, which is useless when trying to forecast wind fields over land.

Here is an inland wind field map by the NHC that should have much more prominence on their website.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gifs/GC13508.GIF
Users should have easy access to this map and should be able to zoom to the county level, at a minimum. These maps could be combined with the Skeetobite maps very easily. People don’t understand what is coming until you show them a street map with “123 anystreet” covered in red and you tell them that tonight is the night that pigs will actually take flight.

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* Tropical Storm Otto Ends the Unforgettable 2004 Hurricane Season MikeCAdministrator Wed Dec 01 2004 08:12 PM
. * * Southern atlantic Invest Bloodstar   Fri Dec 31 2004 05:58 PM
. * * Map update SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Fri Dec 17 2004 06:52 PM
. * * Re: Map update Ricreig   Sat Dec 18 2004 09:28 AM
. * * Re: Map update Storm Cooper   Sat Dec 18 2004 03:32 AM
. * * Re: Map update danielwAdministrator   Sat Dec 18 2004 09:02 PM
. * * Re: Map update Ricreig   Sun Dec 19 2004 08:45 AM
. * * Re: Map update HanKFranK   Mon Dec 20 2004 01:32 PM
. * * Santa, can I have a STS for Christmas??? MapMaster   Tue Dec 21 2004 03:10 PM
. * * Re: Santa, can I have a STS for Christmas??? Mapmaster   Wed Dec 22 2004 11:31 AM
. * * Re: Santa, can I have a STS for Christmas??? danielwAdministrator   Sat Dec 25 2004 11:46 PM
. * * Re: Santa, can I have a STS for Christmas??? HanKFranK   Wed Dec 22 2004 01:31 PM
. * * Re: Santa, can I have a STS for Christmas??? Ricreig   Wed Dec 22 2004 01:32 PM
. * * Merry Christmas To All! LI Phil   Thu Dec 23 2004 11:00 AM
. * * Re: Merry Christmas To All! Storm Cooper   Thu Dec 23 2004 02:15 PM
. * * Re: Merry Christmas To All! HanKFranK   Fri Dec 24 2004 01:11 PM
. * * Re: Merry Christmas To All! LI Phil   Fri Dec 24 2004 04:36 PM
. * * Re: Merry Christmas To All! James88   Fri Dec 24 2004 04:52 PM
. * * Re: Merry Christmas To All! Keith234   Fri Dec 24 2004 05:36 PM
. * * Re: Merry Christmas To All! HanKFranK   Fri Dec 24 2004 11:34 PM
. * * Re: Merry Christmas To All! danielwAdministrator   Sat Dec 25 2004 09:44 PM
. * * Re: Merry Christmas To All! HanKFranK   Sat Dec 25 2004 11:56 PM
. * * sleet, suspect lows, and tsunamis HanKFranK   Sun Dec 26 2004 10:48 AM
. * * Re: sleet, suspect lows, and tsunamis LI Phil   Sun Dec 26 2004 10:51 AM
. * * Weather Wrap-up Ed DunhamAdministrator   Sun Dec 26 2004 11:34 AM
. * * Re: Weather Wrap-up danielwAdministrator   Mon Dec 27 2004 07:49 PM
. * * Re: Weather Wrap-up Keith234   Sun Dec 26 2004 04:08 PM
. * * Florida Nor'easter yesterday Rabbit   Mon Dec 27 2004 02:08 PM
. * * Re: Florida Nor'easter yesterday LONNY307   Mon Dec 27 2004 04:09 PM
. * * Re: Florida Nor'easter yesterday Keith234   Mon Dec 27 2004 08:11 PM
. * * tsunami toll, final reports HanKFranK   Wed Dec 29 2004 11:53 PM
. * * Re: tsunami toll, final reports LI Phil   Thu Dec 30 2004 12:37 PM
. * * Re: tsunami toll, final reports Keith(234)   Thu Dec 30 2004 04:59 PM
. * * Re: tsunami toll, final reports LI Phil   Thu Dec 30 2004 05:05 PM
. * * Re: tsunami toll, final reports Keith234   Thu Dec 30 2004 05:56 PM
. * * Re: tsunami toll, final reports LI Phil   Thu Dec 30 2004 06:15 PM
. * * Re: tsunami toll, final reports Keith(234)   Fri Dec 31 2004 10:20 AM
. * * Re: tsunami toll, final reports LI Phil   Fri Dec 31 2004 03:08 PM
. * * Re: tsunami toll, final reports Keith(234)   Fri Dec 31 2004 07:53 PM
. * * Re: tsunami toll, final reports MikeCAdministrator   Fri Dec 31 2004 09:13 PM
. * * Re: tsunami toll, final reports HanKFranK   Fri Dec 31 2004 12:07 AM
. * * Re: tsunami toll, final reports Bloodstar   Fri Dec 31 2004 06:02 PM
. * * Re: tsunami toll, final reports LI Phil   Fri Dec 31 2004 09:20 AM
. * * Re: Merry Christmas To All! MikeCAdministrator   Sat Dec 25 2004 01:58 PM
. * * Ho Ho Ho! LI Phil   Sat Dec 25 2004 02:14 PM
. * * Re: Ho Ho SNOW? danielwAdministrator   Sat Dec 25 2004 09:32 PM
. * * Re: Map update MapMaster   Fri Dec 17 2004 10:22 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Otto Ends the Unforgettable 2004 Hurricane Season susheedoll   Wed Dec 01 2004 06:05 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Otto Ends the Unforgettable 2004 Hurricane Season Storm Cooper   Wed Dec 01 2004 11:36 AM
. * * Skeetobite Map Project LI Phil   Wed Dec 01 2004 12:19 PM
. * * Re: Skeetobite Map Project Ricreig   Wed Dec 01 2004 06:42 PM
. * * Re: Skeetobite Map Project mapmajor   Wed Dec 01 2004 07:21 PM
. * * Re: Skeetobite Map Project SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Wed Dec 01 2004 08:12 PM
. * * Re: Skeetobite Map Project LI Phil   Wed Dec 01 2004 08:43 PM
. * * Re: Skeetobite Map Project HanKFranK   Thu Dec 02 2004 12:17 AM
. * * Re: Skeetobite Map Project SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Thu Dec 02 2004 09:17 PM
. * * Re: Skeetobite Map Project LI Phil   Fri Dec 03 2004 05:01 PM
. * * Re: DG Forecast---- Map Master   Sat Dec 04 2004 01:03 PM
. * * Re: DG Forecast---- Keith234   Sun Dec 05 2004 07:02 PM
. * * argument HanKFranK   Sun Dec 05 2004 07:36 PM
. * * Re: argument Keith234   Sun Dec 05 2004 08:01 PM
. * * Re: argument LI Phil   Sun Dec 05 2004 11:47 PM
. * * Re: BOC? Mapmaster   Thu Dec 16 2004 02:19 PM
. * * Re: BOC? HanKFranK   Thu Dec 16 2004 05:14 PM
. * * Re: BOC? Ricreig   Fri Dec 17 2004 07:26 AM
. * * Re: BOC? MapMaster   Fri Dec 17 2004 09:33 AM
. * * Re: Skeetobite Map Project LI Phil   Wed Dec 01 2004 07:15 PM
. * * Re: Skeetobite Map Project James88   Wed Dec 01 2004 07:56 PM

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