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Re: Category 2
      Tue Sep 20 2005 05:01 PM

A faster moving storm is not going to upwell as much water, no, but a storm of sufficient intensity is going to mix water over a large depth. For category 3/4 storms, that is about 70m in depth -- the waters over the central Gulf have not recovered from Katrina to that kind of depth, only to a near-normal value. This mixing occurs regardless of the storm's speed; it is a sole function of storm intensity and its influence on the underlying ocean.

Thus, it's not quite correct to say that because the storm is moving faster than Katrina, the recovery of the oceanic waters underneath the storm is not going to be a concern. It will be a concern and likely a limit upon the maximum intensity of the storm. Remember: Katrina was the exception rather than the norm; most storms do not come close to approaching their maximum potential intensity in the Gulf as a result of two factors: 1) shear and/or 2) upper oceanic heat content. Here, it's the latter that should play a role in limiting Rita's intensity -- likely to a more "manageable" cat 3/4 level than another monster.

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* Category 2 Hurricane Rita in the Florida Straits MikeCAdministrator Tue Sep 20 2005 05:01 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Hurricane Rita in the Florida Straits JYarsh   Tue Sep 20 2005 07:46 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Hurricane Rita in the Florida Straits jr928   Tue Sep 20 2005 08:15 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Hurricane Rita in the Florida Straits lunkerhunter   Tue Sep 20 2005 03:10 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Rita Heading for the Florida Straits Robert   Tue Sep 20 2005 01:14 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Rita Heading for the Florida Straits Beaumont, TX   Tue Sep 20 2005 09:53 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Rita Heading for the Florida Straits bigpapi   Tue Sep 20 2005 09:54 AM
. * * Re: Rita Nears Hurricane Strength Heading for the Florida Straits Beaumont, TX   Tue Sep 20 2005 09:08 AM
. * * Re: Rita Nears Hurricane Strength Heading for the Florida Straits Random Chaos   Tue Sep 20 2005 09:13 AM
. * * Re: Rita Nears Hurricane Strength Heading for the Florida Straits Cindi   Tue Sep 20 2005 07:35 AM
. * * Re: Rita Nears Hurricane Strength Heading for the Florida Straits Joshua   Tue Sep 20 2005 07:44 AM
. * * Re: Rita Nears Hurricane Strength Heading for the Florida Straits bigpapi   Tue Sep 20 2005 08:32 AM
. * * Re: Rita Nears Hurricane Strength Heading for the Florida Straits Random Chaos   Tue Sep 20 2005 09:02 AM
. * * miami@ 9... norcross thoughts on pressure..& Hurricane Status finally LoisCane   Tue Sep 20 2005 09:13 AM
. * * Re: miami@ 9... norcross thoughts on pressure..& Hurricane Status finally Beaumont, TX   Tue Sep 20 2005 09:18 AM
. * * texas LoisCane   Tue Sep 20 2005 09:23 AM
. * * Re: texas Psyber   Tue Sep 20 2005 09:31 AM
. * * Re: texas GuppieGrouper   Tue Sep 20 2005 09:49 AM
. * * Re: texas doug   Tue Sep 20 2005 11:13 AM
. * * Re: texas Hootowl   Tue Sep 20 2005 11:24 AM
. * * Re: texas Psyber   Tue Sep 20 2005 10:00 AM
. * * Re: texas pryord1   Tue Sep 20 2005 11:13 AM
. * * Re: texas Margie   Tue Sep 20 2005 10:22 AM
. * * Re: texas Psyber   Tue Sep 20 2005 10:38 AM
. * * Re: texas pryord1   Tue Sep 20 2005 11:18 AM
. * * radar Thunderbird12   Tue Sep 20 2005 10:34 AM
. * * ne quandrant just got drier? not up here in NMB or S Broward LoisCane   Tue Sep 20 2005 11:04 AM
. * * Re: ne quandrant just got drier? not up here in NMB or S Broward Psyber   Tue Sep 20 2005 11:38 AM
. * * Re: ne quandrant just got drier? not up here in NMB or S Broward pryord1   Tue Sep 20 2005 11:44 AM
. * * Re: ne quandrant just got drier? not up here in NMB or S Broward susieq   Tue Sep 20 2005 12:04 PM
. * * Re: ne quandrant just got drier? not up here in NMB or S Broward Psyber   Tue Sep 20 2005 12:28 PM
. * * Re: ne quandrant just got drier? not up here in NMB or S Broward pryord1   Tue Sep 20 2005 12:35 PM
. * * Re: ne quandrant just got drier? not up here in NMB or S Broward amonty   Tue Sep 20 2005 12:57 PM
. * * Re: ne quandrant just got drier? not up here in NMB or S Broward pryord1   Tue Sep 20 2005 12:59 PM
. * * Re: ne quandrant just got drier? not up here in NMB or S Broward Tazmanian93   Tue Sep 20 2005 12:42 PM
. * * Re: ne quandrant just got drier? not up here in NMB or S Broward Colleen A.   Tue Sep 20 2005 12:20 PM
. * * Re: ne quadrant just got drier? not up here in NMB or S Broward Multi-Decadal Signal   Tue Sep 20 2005 12:32 PM
. * * Re: ne quandrant just got drier? not up here in NMB or S Broward Random Chaos   Tue Sep 20 2005 12:03 PM
. * * Re: ne quandrant just got drier? not up here in NMB or S Broward Thunderbird12   Tue Sep 20 2005 11:18 AM
. * * Re: ne quandrant just got drier? not up here in NMB or S Broward doug   Tue Sep 20 2005 11:28 AM
. * * Re: ne quandrant just got drier? not up here in NMB or S Broward Margie   Tue Sep 20 2005 12:36 PM
. * * Re: ne quandrant just got drier? not up here in NMB or S Broward Psyber   Tue Sep 20 2005 12:42 PM
. * * Re: ne quandrant just got drier? not up here in NMB or S Broward Margie   Tue Sep 20 2005 01:03 PM
. * * Re: ne quandrant just got drier? not up here in NMB or S Broward pryord1   Tue Sep 20 2005 01:16 PM
. * * Re: ne quandrant just got drier? not up here in NMB or S Broward pcola   Tue Sep 20 2005 12:53 PM
. * * Re: ne quandrant just got drier? not up here in NMB or S Broward Psyber   Tue Sep 20 2005 01:13 PM
. * * 11am advisory Thunderbird12   Tue Sep 20 2005 11:25 AM
. * * Re: 11am advisory Margie   Tue Sep 20 2005 12:04 PM
. * * Re: 11am advisory Thunderbird12   Tue Sep 20 2005 12:26 PM
. * * Re: 11am advisory Steve H1   Tue Sep 20 2005 12:32 PM
. * * Re: 11am advisory Wanna-Be-Storm-Chaser   Tue Sep 20 2005 12:44 PM
. * * Re: 11am advisory pryord1   Tue Sep 20 2005 12:23 PM
. * * Re: 11am advisory oil trader   Tue Sep 20 2005 12:45 PM
. * * Re: 11am advisory ralphfl   Tue Sep 20 2005 01:06 PM
. * * Re: 11am advisory Psyber   Tue Sep 20 2005 01:26 PM
. * * Re: 11am advisory The Force 2005   Tue Sep 20 2005 01:36 PM
. * * Re: 11am advisory orlandocanewatcher   Tue Sep 20 2005 01:19 PM
. * * Re: 11am advisory ralphfl   Tue Sep 20 2005 01:23 PM
. * * Category 2 Random Chaos   Tue Sep 20 2005 01:25 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Margie   Tue Sep 20 2005 02:04 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 The Force 2005   Tue Sep 20 2005 02:10 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 lunkerhunter   Tue Sep 20 2005 02:09 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Margie   Tue Sep 20 2005 02:17 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 The Force 2005   Tue Sep 20 2005 02:31 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 The Force 2005   Tue Sep 20 2005 02:55 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Beaumont, TX   Tue Sep 20 2005 03:39 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 The Force 2005   Tue Sep 20 2005 03:45 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Margie   Tue Sep 20 2005 02:40 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 The Force 2005   Tue Sep 20 2005 03:02 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Clark   Tue Sep 20 2005 05:01 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 KATFIVE   Tue Sep 20 2005 07:20 PM
. * * recon interpretation Thunderbird12   Tue Sep 20 2005 07:39 PM
. * * Re: recon interpretation danielwAdministrator   Tue Sep 20 2005 07:49 PM
. * * New Advisory-edited danielwAdministrator   Tue Sep 20 2005 08:16 PM
. * * Re: New Advisory-edited Psyber   Tue Sep 20 2005 08:32 PM
. * * downward spiral HanKFranK   Tue Sep 20 2005 08:56 PM
. * * Re: downward spiral Beaumont, TX   Tue Sep 20 2005 10:04 PM
. * * Re: downward spiral Margie   Tue Sep 20 2005 10:02 PM
. * * Re: downward spiral Clark   Tue Sep 20 2005 10:13 PM
. * * Re: downward spiral lunkerhunter   Tue Sep 20 2005 10:35 PM
. * * Re: downward spiral danielwAdministrator   Tue Sep 20 2005 10:30 PM
. * * Re: downward spiral Random Chaos   Tue Sep 20 2005 10:31 PM
. * * Re: downward spiral Clark   Tue Sep 20 2005 10:38 PM
. * * Re: downward spiral Elaine H   Tue Sep 20 2005 10:33 PM
. * * Re: downward spiral danielwAdministrator   Tue Sep 20 2005 10:31 PM
. * * Re: downward spiral Random Chaos   Tue Sep 20 2005 09:03 PM
. * * Re: New Advisory-edited Random Chaos   Tue Sep 20 2005 08:42 PM
. * * Re: New Advisory-edited SirCane   Tue Sep 20 2005 08:47 PM
. * * WInds and Pressure danielwAdministrator   Tue Sep 20 2005 08:54 PM
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. * * Re: Rita Rita Rita JoeF   Tue Sep 20 2005 10:57 PM
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. * * Re: Rita Rita Rita lunkerhunter   Tue Sep 20 2005 10:39 PM
. * * Re: Rita Rita Rita WeatherNut   Tue Sep 20 2005 10:27 PM
. * * Re: Rita Rita Rita jr928   Tue Sep 20 2005 10:19 PM
. * * Re: New Advisory-edited Psyber   Tue Sep 20 2005 08:44 PM
. * * New Vortex danielwAdministrator   Tue Sep 20 2005 08:32 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Clark   Tue Sep 20 2005 07:38 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Beaumont, TX   Tue Sep 20 2005 06:37 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 nl   Tue Sep 20 2005 07:03 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 MissBecky   Tue Sep 20 2005 07:20 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Random Chaos   Tue Sep 20 2005 07:19 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Nutmeg   Tue Sep 20 2005 07:18 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 charlottefl   Tue Sep 20 2005 07:02 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 ShanaTX   Tue Sep 20 2005 07:28 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Random Chaos   Tue Sep 20 2005 03:11 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Ed in Va   Tue Sep 20 2005 03:07 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Kimberley Clark   Tue Sep 20 2005 03:17 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 The Force 2005   Tue Sep 20 2005 03:12 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Ed in Va   Tue Sep 20 2005 03:57 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 CoalCracker   Tue Sep 20 2005 04:27 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 WeatherNLU   Tue Sep 20 2005 04:38 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Kimberley Clark   Tue Sep 20 2005 05:06 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Random Chaos   Tue Sep 20 2005 04:33 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Ed in Va   Tue Sep 20 2005 04:45 PM
. * * 5pm advisory Thunderbird12   Tue Sep 20 2005 04:54 PM
. * * Re: 5pm advisory Psyber   Tue Sep 20 2005 05:01 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 ralphfl   Tue Sep 20 2005 04:51 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 StormKrone   Tue Sep 20 2005 05:01 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Rabbit   Tue Sep 20 2005 05:12 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 jusforsean   Tue Sep 20 2005 05:33 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 nl   Tue Sep 20 2005 05:49 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Random Chaos   Tue Sep 20 2005 06:03 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Lee-Delray   Tue Sep 20 2005 06:08 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 nl   Tue Sep 20 2005 06:09 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Chris Bryant   Tue Sep 20 2005 06:44 PM
. * * radar Thunderbird12   Tue Sep 20 2005 06:48 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Thunderbird12   Tue Sep 20 2005 06:14 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 nl   Tue Sep 20 2005 06:19 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 FireAng85   Tue Sep 20 2005 06:02 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Susan in Jupiter, FL   Tue Sep 20 2005 05:49 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Psyber   Tue Sep 20 2005 05:10 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Psyber   Tue Sep 20 2005 04:42 PM
. * * latest recon Thunderbird12   Tue Sep 20 2005 04:26 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Convergence   Tue Sep 20 2005 02:59 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 WeatherNut   Tue Sep 20 2005 02:55 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Random Chaos   Tue Sep 20 2005 02:51 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Lee-Delray   Tue Sep 20 2005 02:28 PM
. * * 12Z SHIPS output Thunderbird12   Tue Sep 20 2005 02:37 PM
. * * Re: 12Z SHIPS output Ed in Va   Tue Sep 20 2005 02:52 PM
. * * Re: 12Z SHIPS output Thunderbird12   Tue Sep 20 2005 03:07 PM
. * * Re: 12Z SHIPS output Convergence   Tue Sep 20 2005 03:05 PM
. * * Re: 12Z SHIPS output WeatherNut   Tue Sep 20 2005 03:02 PM
. * * Re: 12Z SHIPS output Convergence   Tue Sep 20 2005 03:10 PM
. * * Re: 12Z SHIPS output Random Chaos   Tue Sep 20 2005 03:01 PM
. * * tornado warnings Thunderbird12   Tue Sep 20 2005 02:41 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 The Force 2005   Tue Sep 20 2005 01:46 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Psyber   Tue Sep 20 2005 01:36 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 The Force 2005   Tue Sep 20 2005 01:43 PM
. * * consider this Rick on boat in Mobile   Tue Sep 20 2005 01:48 PM
. * * Re: consider this Jeffmidtown   Tue Sep 20 2005 01:53 PM
. * * Re: consider this The Force 2005   Tue Sep 20 2005 01:51 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Thunderbird12   Tue Sep 20 2005 01:46 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 The Force 2005   Tue Sep 20 2005 01:39 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Bloodstar   Tue Sep 20 2005 01:53 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 lunkerhunter   Tue Sep 20 2005 01:56 PM
. * * GFDL Thunderbird12   Tue Sep 20 2005 02:03 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 FlaMommy   Tue Sep 20 2005 01:56 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Lsr1166   Tue Sep 20 2005 02:13 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 MikeCAdministrator   Tue Sep 20 2005 02:15 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Psyber   Tue Sep 20 2005 01:59 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 FlaMommy   Tue Sep 20 2005 02:01 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Elaine H   Tue Sep 20 2005 02:15 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 FlaMommy   Tue Sep 20 2005 02:17 PM
. * * Re: Category 2 Psyber   Tue Sep 20 2005 01:46 PM
. * * Re: 11am advisory Steve H1   Tue Sep 20 2005 01:13 PM
. * * Re: 11am advisory Steve H1   Tue Sep 20 2005 01:07 PM
. * * Re: 11am advisory pryord1   Tue Sep 20 2005 12:55 PM
. * * Re: 11am advisory nate77   Tue Sep 20 2005 12:53 PM
. * * Re: ne quandrant just got drier? not up here in NMB or S Broward tpratch   Tue Sep 20 2005 11:09 AM
. * * Re: ne quandrant just got drier? not up here in NMB or S Broward Susan in Jupiter, FL   Tue Sep 20 2005 12:45 PM
. * * Re: ne quandrant just got drier? not up here in NMB or S Broward Steve H1   Tue Sep 20 2005 11:14 AM
. * * Re: radar Psyber   Tue Sep 20 2005 10:51 AM
. * * Re: radar Random Chaos   Tue Sep 20 2005 10:54 AM
. * * Re: Rita Nears Hurricane Strength Heading for the Florida Straits tpratch   Tue Sep 20 2005 07:40 AM
. * * Re: Rita Nears Hurricane Strength Heading for the Florida Straits MikeCAdministrator   Tue Sep 20 2005 07:40 AM

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