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HanKFranK
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      Fri Oct 28 2005 03:35 PM

i'm going to keep hedging on beta moving onshore nicaragua. i think it'll do it in spite of whatever else may be going on around it... too much model consensus showing the westward turn, and there already seems to be a bend nw in the track today. should move onshore further north, closer to the honduras/nicaragua border, and move west in such a fashion as to remain onshore and weaken. may get gummed up and stop just a little inland as there's a chance that low pressure will try to form further east and northeast with the lesser shear and wave energy being banked into the eastern edge of beta's envelope. like some have said and even a disco or two mentioned, some degree of binary interaction is likely, whether the other feature develops or not. beta has had a hard time strengthening so far, so this may have already happened to a degree (91L to the east perhaps kinking the trades up and weakening convergence around beta). the models are showing less of an energy hand-off to the mid latitudes now, so whatever ends up in the nw caribbean, whether a vestige of 91L or beta or perhaps something else entirely... may get stuck up there for a day or three.. waiting on another amplification in the westerlies to pick it up. i'd say that the best bet right now is that beta moves inland and that the feature up there doesn't quite have what it takes to develop, but there's still a chance of another feature forming, or beta getting far enough north to lodge in the nw caribbean.
the wave near 45w needs to be watched for days down the road. it's going to be moving into the caribbean in a couple of days under favorable upper-air conditions, and already has a decent gyre and occasional spotty convection. the globals track it though none are developing it, but i'd suspect that in the first few days of november we'll have at least an invest out of this one as well.
i'm not going to sound the trumpet for the season ending any time soon. we're in SOI positive which favors stronger global trades and an enhanced subtropical ridge. with the blocking setting up in eastern europe that the accuweather guys were talking about yesterday, it figures that ridging near the east coast will start setting up shop in the coming week or two. such a thing tacked onto the existing subtropical ridge which has been keeping the caribbean active would perhaps open the gate for any caribbean mischief to come harass the u.s. (in reduced late-season form, of course). florida needs to keep an eyeball on the caribbean for the next week or two, at least.
HF 1935z28october

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* Tropical Storm Beta and other areas. MikeCAdministrator Fri Oct 28 2005 03:35 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Beta and other areas. Beach   Fri Oct 28 2005 09:42 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Beta and other areas. wulrich   Thu Oct 27 2005 05:15 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Beta and other areas. Margie   Thu Oct 27 2005 05:21 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Beta and other areas. Thunderbird12   Thu Oct 27 2005 05:27 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Beta and other areas. Margie   Thu Oct 27 2005 06:10 PM
. * * Other areas? danielwAdministrator   Thu Oct 27 2005 08:06 PM
. * * Beta danielwAdministrator   Thu Oct 27 2005 08:16 PM
. * * Re: Beta Margie   Thu Oct 27 2005 08:40 PM
. * * Re: Beta Clark   Thu Oct 27 2005 09:08 PM
. * * Re: Beta Beaumont, TX   Thu Oct 27 2005 09:00 PM
. * * Nicaragua Population danielwAdministrator   Thu Oct 27 2005 09:40 PM
. * * ODT danielwAdministrator   Thu Oct 27 2005 08:59 PM
. * * Beta danielwAdministrator   Thu Oct 27 2005 09:06 PM
. * * Re: Beta danielwAdministrator   Thu Oct 27 2005 09:15 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics damejune2   Wed Oct 26 2005 04:44 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Thunderbird12   Wed Oct 26 2005 05:16 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics rd261   Wed Oct 26 2005 05:27 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Thunderbird12   Wed Oct 26 2005 05:33 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Margie   Wed Oct 26 2005 06:15 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics typhoon_tip   Wed Oct 26 2005 06:50 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics danielwAdministrator   Wed Oct 26 2005 08:03 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Thunderbird12   Wed Oct 26 2005 05:24 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Clark   Wed Oct 26 2005 06:27 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Margie   Wed Oct 26 2005 08:24 PM
. * * Evening TWD Highlights danielwAdministrator   Wed Oct 26 2005 09:15 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Thunderbird12   Wed Oct 26 2005 09:11 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Margie   Wed Oct 26 2005 09:23 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics typhoon_tip   Wed Oct 26 2005 10:20 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics HanKFranK   Wed Oct 26 2005 09:50 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics typhoon_tip   Wed Oct 26 2005 10:41 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Margie   Wed Oct 26 2005 10:50 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics typhoon_tip   Wed Oct 26 2005 10:56 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Margie   Wed Oct 26 2005 11:11 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Clark   Thu Oct 27 2005 10:32 AM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Margie   Thu Oct 27 2005 11:08 AM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics doug   Thu Oct 27 2005 12:16 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Margie   Thu Oct 27 2005 12:32 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics HanKFranK   Thu Oct 27 2005 01:52 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Margie   Thu Oct 27 2005 02:36 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Littlebit   Thu Oct 27 2005 03:57 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics damejune2   Thu Oct 27 2005 04:46 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Clark   Thu Oct 27 2005 08:59 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics typhoon_tip   Thu Oct 27 2005 10:49 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Old Sailor   Thu Oct 27 2005 10:56 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics typhoon_tip   Thu Oct 27 2005 11:03 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics La Nimo   Thu Oct 27 2005 11:30 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics HanKFranK   Thu Oct 27 2005 11:58 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics typhoon_tip   Fri Oct 28 2005 12:06 AM
. * * Beta... danielwAdministrator   Fri Oct 28 2005 06:03 AM
. * * Re: Beta... BullitNutz   Fri Oct 28 2005 06:15 AM
. * * Re: Beta... danielwAdministrator   Fri Oct 28 2005 06:37 AM
. * * Re: Beta... meranto   Fri Oct 28 2005 07:25 AM
. * * Re: Beta... BullitNutz   Fri Oct 28 2005 07:36 AM
. * * Re: Beta... Margie   Fri Oct 28 2005 07:51 AM
. * * Re: Beta... BullitNutz   Fri Oct 28 2005 07:55 AM
. * * Re: Beta... Margie   Fri Oct 28 2005 09:20 AM
. * * Re: Beta... Thunderbird12   Fri Oct 28 2005 09:43 AM
. * * Re: Beta... typhoon_tip   Fri Oct 28 2005 11:41 AM
. * * Wilma wilma Robert   Fri Oct 28 2005 12:34 PM
. * * Re: Wilma wilma Margie   Fri Oct 28 2005 12:59 PM
. * * Re: Wilma wilma scottsvb   Fri Oct 28 2005 12:51 PM
. * * Re: Wilma wilma trinibaje   Fri Oct 28 2005 02:23 PM
. * * Re: Wilma wilma twizted sizter   Fri Oct 28 2005 02:37 PM
. * * Re: Wilma wilma craigm   Fri Oct 28 2005 02:17 PM
. * * Re: Wilma wilma emackl   Fri Oct 28 2005 01:28 PM
. * * Re: Wilma wilma Thunderbird12   Fri Oct 28 2005 02:48 PM
. * * Re: Wilma wilma twizted sizter   Fri Oct 28 2005 02:54 PM
. * * Re: Wilma wilma Margie   Fri Oct 28 2005 02:59 PM
. * * Re: Wilma wilma Thunderbird12   Fri Oct 28 2005 03:05 PM
. * * Re: Wilma wilma Margie   Fri Oct 28 2005 03:11 PM
. * * take HanKFranK   Fri Oct 28 2005 03:35 PM
. * * Devil's advocate typhoon_tip   Fri Oct 28 2005 04:34 PM
. * * Re: Devil's advocate Margie   Fri Oct 28 2005 05:16 PM
. * * Re: Devil's advocate typhoon_tip   Fri Oct 28 2005 05:25 PM
. * * Re: Devil's advocate Margie   Fri Oct 28 2005 05:34 PM
. * * Re: Devil's advocate typhoon_tip   Fri Oct 28 2005 06:01 PM
. * * Re: Devil's advocate typhoon_tip   Fri Oct 28 2005 05:47 PM
. * * Re: Devil's advocate Margie   Fri Oct 28 2005 06:29 PM
. * * More model questions Random Chaos   Fri Oct 28 2005 06:02 PM
. * * Re: More model questions typhoon_tip   Fri Oct 28 2005 06:42 PM
. * * Re: take Old Sailor   Fri Oct 28 2005 03:43 PM
. * * Re: take emackl   Fri Oct 28 2005 03:41 PM
. * * Vortex Thunderbird12   Fri Oct 28 2005 02:58 PM
. * * Re: Wilma wilma scottsvb   Fri Oct 28 2005 01:54 PM
. * * Re: Wilma wilma JMII   Fri Oct 28 2005 12:46 PM
. * * Re: Wilma wilma typhoon_tip   Fri Oct 28 2005 12:44 PM
. * * Re: Wilma wilma typhoon_tip   Fri Oct 28 2005 12:50 PM
. * * Re: Beta... damejune2   Fri Oct 28 2005 12:08 PM
. * * Re: Beta... typhoon_tip   Fri Oct 28 2005 12:24 PM
. * * Re: Beta... Steve H1   Fri Oct 28 2005 11:32 AM
. * * Re: Beta... typhoon_tip   Fri Oct 28 2005 12:12 PM
. * * Re: Beta... Margie   Fri Oct 28 2005 07:15 AM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics typhoon_tip   Thu Oct 27 2005 11:38 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Ed in Va   Thu Oct 27 2005 04:50 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Thunderbird12   Thu Oct 27 2005 05:21 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics ralphfl   Thu Oct 27 2005 05:13 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics bobbutts   Thu Oct 27 2005 10:14 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Storm Hunter   Thu Oct 27 2005 10:48 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Ned   Thu Oct 27 2005 05:58 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics StPeteBill   Thu Oct 27 2005 08:03 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Ned   Fri Oct 28 2005 06:34 AM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics GuppieGrouper   Fri Oct 28 2005 07:10 AM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Margie   Thu Oct 27 2005 04:19 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Bloodstar   Thu Oct 27 2005 02:34 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Clark   Thu Oct 27 2005 11:01 AM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics typhoon_tip   Wed Oct 26 2005 11:24 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Margie   Wed Oct 26 2005 11:34 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics danielwAdministrator   Wed Oct 26 2005 11:41 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics typhoon_tip   Wed Oct 26 2005 11:48 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics danielwAdministrator   Wed Oct 26 2005 11:51 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics typhoon_tip   Wed Oct 26 2005 11:56 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Margie   Thu Oct 27 2005 12:18 AM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics typhoon_tip   Thu Oct 27 2005 12:28 AM
. * * TD 26 and 91L danielwAdministrator   Thu Oct 27 2005 02:09 AM
. * * Re: TD 26 and 91L Hugh   Thu Oct 27 2005 07:00 AM
. * * Re: TD 26 danielwAdministrator   Thu Oct 27 2005 03:10 AM
. * * Tropical Storm BETA danielwAdministrator   Thu Oct 27 2005 04:57 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm BETA Margie   Thu Oct 27 2005 08:48 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm BETA Beaumont, TX   Thu Oct 27 2005 09:07 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm BETA Thunderbird12   Thu Oct 27 2005 09:26 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm BETA Hootowl   Thu Oct 27 2005 09:57 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm BETA doug   Thu Oct 27 2005 10:14 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm BETA Thunderbird12   Thu Oct 27 2005 10:43 AM
. * * Model Runs danielwAdministrator   Thu Oct 27 2005 12:08 AM
. * * Re: Model Runs typhoon_tip   Thu Oct 27 2005 12:20 AM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics danielwAdministrator   Wed Oct 26 2005 11:04 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics typhoon_tip   Wed Oct 26 2005 11:17 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Random Chaos   Wed Oct 26 2005 11:04 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics typhoon_tip   Wed Oct 26 2005 11:05 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Random Chaos   Wed Oct 26 2005 11:07 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Random Chaos   Wed Oct 26 2005 10:20 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics danielwAdministrator   Wed Oct 26 2005 10:46 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics CoalCracker   Wed Oct 26 2005 10:45 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics danielwAdministrator   Wed Oct 26 2005 09:40 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics GuppieGrouper   Wed Oct 26 2005 09:35 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics Ned   Thu Oct 27 2005 05:50 PM
. * * Depression #26 Forms recmod   Wed Oct 26 2005 09:35 PM
. * * Re: Depression #26 Forms Wait'l next year! Cubs win W S - No hurricanes   Thu Oct 27 2005 11:14 AM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics typhoon_tip   Wed Oct 26 2005 05:38 PM
. * * Re: Watching a Few Areas in The Tropics JMII   Wed Oct 26 2005 05:13 PM

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