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Re: First Tropical Depression of 2006 Forms
      Sat Jun 10 2006 02:35 PM

As of right now, we've got a fairly disorganized storm out there. Visible satellite imagery show multiple low-level circulations about an elongated trough oriented from NNE-SSW from west of Dry Tortugas to near Cancun and then paralleling the coastline toward Belize. Two of these circulations are evident outside of the convection, one near Cancun and another just to its north-northeast. There might also be a low-level center in the midst of the deep convection off of the coast of Belize. However, this convection is not as well organized as is that over western Cuba, where a mid-level circulation likely exists just north of the Isle of Youth.

In its current state of organization, what we've seen this morning will likely continue to occur. The mid-level circulation in the midst of the convection over Cuba will continue to spin-up small-scale low-level circulations that, as a result of the shear and the natural flow around the broader area of low pressure, continually get spit out into the netherlands of the NW Caribbean. Until that broad trough consolidates, strengthening is going to be limited. It's possible that either end of the feature becomes the dominant one -- those being the feature over Cuba and the feature near Belize -- but it's going to take time. I'll echo Rabbit's sentiments in that this isn't likely to be Alberto today. It might have the winds to be classified as a TS in the midst of that convection, but the state of organization will likely cause the NHC to be hesitant to upgrade it to a TS...particularly if a well-defined center cannot be found by recon.

Track thinking is largely unchanged from last night. Intensity thinking is also largely unchanged, but note that the primary impacts from this feature are going to be from rain rather than from wind unless some unexpected strengthening occurs. There is a shot that the depression can become a bit stronger than NHC forecasts if it accelerates toward the coast line (reducing the impacts of the shallower, cooler shelf waters plus weakening the storm-relative shear), but I still don't expect a hurricane out of this one.

The 12z model guidance is starting to come in as a suite now...here's a summary:
* GFDL: minimal hurricane making landfall near Cedar Key, FL at early afternoon Monday
* Canadian: strong TS/minimal hurricane making landfall near Apalachicola/St. George Island, FL lunchtime Monday
* NOGAPS: very broad, weak cyclone making landfall near St. Marks, FL late Monday/early Tuesday. Evolution similar to TS Bonnie (2004).
* UKMET: weak cyclone making landfall near St. Marks, FL sometime late Wednesday; very slow, erratic movement from Monday onward just off-shore.
* FSU MM5: approaching the southern coast of central Louisiana early Thursday as a moderate tropical storm.
* GFS: landfall as a weak-moderate tropical storm late Tuesday/early Wednesday near Cedar Key, FL.
* NAM: landfall lunchtime Monday as a weak system near Buras, LA; remains in the vicinity of New Orleans for two days. Wouldn't put too much stock into it; the NAM isn't a great tropical model.

I'll let this all sink in for the afternoon for you all before coming back later today with a full forecast.

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* First Tropical Depression of 2006 Forms MikeCAdministrator Sat Jun 10 2006 02:35 PM
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. * * Re: First Tropical Depression of 2006 Forms reedzone   Sat Jun 10 2006 11:31 PM
. * * Re: circulations Cat 5orBust   Sat Jun 10 2006 06:48 PM
. * * Amazing ltpat228   Sat Jun 10 2006 04:46 PM
. * * Re: Amazing Fla. native in Ala.   Sat Jun 10 2006 08:44 PM
. * * Re: Amazing ltpat228   Sat Jun 10 2006 09:10 PM
. * * Re: 18Z Runs w/ NHC Track Storm Cooper   Sat Jun 10 2006 09:23 PM
. * * Re: 18Z Runs w/ NHC Track CaneTrackerInSoFl   Sat Jun 10 2006 09:27 PM
. * * Re: 18Z Runs w/ NHC Track Margie   Sat Jun 10 2006 10:40 PM
. * * Re: 18Z Runs w/ NHC Track Rasvar   Sat Jun 10 2006 10:49 PM
. * * Re: 18Z Runs w/ NHC Track SirCane   Sat Jun 10 2006 10:51 PM
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. * * Re: Amazing Beaumont, TX   Sat Jun 10 2006 07:53 PM
. * * Re: Amazing *Killed -- Sent to Graveyard* lunkerhunter   Sat Jun 10 2006 07:49 PM
. * * Re: Amazing *Killed -- Sent to Graveyard* Kimster   Sat Jun 10 2006 07:57 PM
. * * Re: Amazing Tazmanian93   Sat Jun 10 2006 08:03 PM
. * * I'm Back WeatherNLU   Sat Jun 10 2006 08:00 PM
. * * Re: I'm Back ltpat228   Sat Jun 10 2006 08:04 PM
. * * Re: Amazing Wait'l next year! Cubs win W S - No hurricanes   Sat Jun 10 2006 06:02 PM
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. * * Re: Amazing doctormegreen   Sat Jun 10 2006 06:08 PM
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. * * Re: Amazing Clark   Sat Jun 10 2006 07:17 PM
. * * Re: Amazing ltpat228   Sat Jun 10 2006 07:54 PM
. * * Re: Amazing *Killed -- Sent to Graveyard* Stormwatchin' Dan   Sat Jun 10 2006 07:58 PM
. * * Re: Amazing Hugh   Sat Jun 10 2006 08:05 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 1 Stormwatchin' Dan   Sat Jun 10 2006 08:08 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 1 Ron Basso   Sat Jun 10 2006 08:19 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 1 Old Sailor   Sat Jun 10 2006 08:26 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 1 MrSpock   Sat Jun 10 2006 08:24 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 1 ltpat228   Sat Jun 10 2006 08:49 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 1 CaneTrackerInSoFl   Sat Jun 10 2006 08:57 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 1 BillD   Sat Jun 10 2006 09:53 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 1 Ronn   Sat Jun 10 2006 09:48 PM
. * * Storm is still in formation stages LoisCane   Sat Jun 10 2006 09:54 PM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages Storm Hunter   Sat Jun 10 2006 10:19 PM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages Clark   Sat Jun 10 2006 11:10 PM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages Clark   Sun Jun 11 2006 01:47 AM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages cieldumort   Sun Jun 11 2006 02:45 AM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages Rabbit   Sun Jun 11 2006 03:07 AM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages cieldumort   Sun Jun 11 2006 04:10 AM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages Rich B   Sun Jun 11 2006 04:58 AM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages cieldumort   Sun Jun 11 2006 06:04 AM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages Rich B   Sun Jun 11 2006 06:40 AM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages Storm Hunter   Sun Jun 11 2006 07:15 AM
. * * I Am Curious... ltpat228   Sat Jun 10 2006 11:39 PM
. * * Re: I Am Curious... danielwAdministrator   Sat Jun 10 2006 11:42 PM
. * * Re: I Am Curious... ltpat228   Sat Jun 10 2006 11:49 PM
. * * Re: I Am Curious... royener   Sat Jun 10 2006 11:56 PM
. * * Re: I Am Curious... scottsvb   Sun Jun 11 2006 12:10 AM
. * * Re: I Am Curious... Clark   Sun Jun 11 2006 12:51 AM
. * * Re: I Am Curious... Big Tk   Sun Jun 11 2006 01:38 AM
. * * Re: I Am Curious... Colleen A.   Sun Jun 11 2006 01:44 AM
. * * Re: I Am Curious... Colleen A.   Sun Jun 11 2006 01:25 AM
. * * Re: I Am Curious... Stormwatchin' Dan   Sun Jun 11 2006 01:41 AM
. * * Re: I Am Curious... cieldumort   Sun Jun 11 2006 01:15 AM
. * * Re: I Am Curious... Stormwatchin' Dan   Sun Jun 11 2006 12:14 AM
. * * Re: I Am Curious... Storm Hunter   Sat Jun 10 2006 11:41 PM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages ElizabethH   Sat Jun 10 2006 11:24 PM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages THJTLW   Sat Jun 10 2006 11:15 PM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages ElizabethH   Sat Jun 10 2006 10:28 PM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages Stormwatchin' Dan   Sat Jun 10 2006 10:23 PM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages Hugh   Sat Jun 10 2006 10:22 PM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages Storm Hunter   Sat Jun 10 2006 10:25 PM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages Trekman   Sat Jun 10 2006 10:30 PM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages Storm Hunter   Sat Jun 10 2006 10:32 PM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages CaneTrackerInSoFl   Sat Jun 10 2006 10:40 PM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages hurricane_run   Sat Jun 10 2006 10:46 PM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages CaneTrackerInSoFl   Sat Jun 10 2006 10:56 PM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages Margie   Sat Jun 10 2006 11:26 PM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages CarolinaGurl   Sat Jun 10 2006 11:32 PM
. * * Strike Probabilities danielwAdministrator   Sat Jun 10 2006 11:40 PM
. * * Re: Strike Probabilities CarolinaGurl   Sat Jun 10 2006 11:44 PM
. * * Conditions & Thoughts-Cortez Bev   Sun Jun 11 2006 05:15 AM
. * * Re: Strike Probabilities Kimster   Sat Jun 10 2006 11:59 PM
. * * Re: Strike Probabilities hurricane_run   Sun Jun 11 2006 12:10 AM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages danielwAdministrator   Sat Jun 10 2006 11:10 PM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages hurricane_run   Sat Jun 10 2006 11:06 PM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages MikeCAdministrator   Sat Jun 10 2006 11:09 PM
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. * * Changes danielwAdministrator   Sun Jun 11 2006 12:11 AM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages Hugh   Sat Jun 10 2006 11:00 PM
. * * 11pm LoisCane   Sat Jun 10 2006 10:54 PM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages hurricane_run   Sat Jun 10 2006 10:39 PM
. * * Re: Storm is still in formation stages Trekman   Sat Jun 10 2006 10:18 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 1 Hugh   Sat Jun 10 2006 08:14 PM
. * * We need the rain brad34695   Sat Jun 10 2006 06:52 PM
. * * Re: We need the rain FlaMommy   Sat Jun 10 2006 07:17 PM
. * * Re: We need the rain madmumbler   Sat Jun 10 2006 08:17 PM
. * * New advisory Hugh   Sat Jun 10 2006 04:52 PM
. * * Current Ocean Temps - 88F (+/-) along path of TD#1 Media Lies Daily   Sat Jun 10 2006 04:07 PM
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