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Re:immediate will not survive, weak might
      Thu Aug 10 2006 12:22 AM

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looks like this one is going to be a cane down the road? IF IT DEVELOPES!!! which i think it has a good chance... THIS ONE (91L) needs to be watched... things could get interesting this weekend... While right now the wave looks pretty bad.... but that could change in the near future!
http://euler.atmos.colostate.edu/~vigh/guidance/atlantic/intensity1.png
they ran Tropical Runs at 00tuc
http://euler.atmos.colostate.edu/~vigh/guidance/atlantic/early1.png
http://hadar.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/RMTC_BAR_2km_ir2.html



I really don't like that Canadian Clipper..... and the bad news is that its been reasonably right often enough to bother me.

The "easy" models are usually untrustworthy, and its interesting that none of the other globals are finding any staying power on this thing.

If you look at the WV loop at http://weather.unisys.com/satellite/sat_wv_east_loop-12.html there's an obvious ULL in the gulf roughly south of the AL/MS line by a couple hundred miles, moving to the NNW and losing some of its definition. If that thing was to drill down it could be trouble - what's keeping it from doing so is the STRONG high to the north of it. The convergence is what kicked off the severe storms near us today, and might tomorrow - but then its outta here it appears..... That suits me just fine, as I don't think anyone down here wants to see anything get organized south of NO!

There's a slug of dry air over Hispanola right now, but that appears to be moving off to the west and looks to be far enough in front of our wave that its not going to "prong" it like happened to Chris. Interestingly enough it looks like the wave has been impacted by this however, in that the last few frames of the IR loop seem to show a flattening (more westward) movement - althought that may be illusory and just where the convection is heaviest.

This thing is really CRANKING along. It has to slow down some if its going to have time to get more vertically organized, but by being relatively shallow it also misses the ULL's "spike" effect - so its a mixed bag. I also don't see much rotation - that's a good thing for the time being....

Tomorrow should tell the tale. If its going to get TUTTed, that should be when it happens. I'd put the odds at 50/50 on it being able to stay far enough east of the influence, and for the inhibiting factors to clear west of it - which would allow it to deepen and develop rotation. Its over warm water now and absent active disruption we'd have a good storm going already.

The high that is over the TN/AL/GA border area looks to be moving slowly ESE, and this is not good news. If that comes off the coast and allows what could be "D" to ride up to its west, things could get quite interesting....... this looks to be what the clipper is seeing..... right now the pattern in front of this thing is quite complex, but that looks to be clearing off to a large degree over the next couple of days......

Will be watching it tomorrow... and hoping its a bust, as the last thing I want is this thing getting into the gulf with all the current inhibitors off the playing field in front of it and 85F+ water underneath it!

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* Nothing Immediate MikeCAdministrator Thu Aug 10 2006 12:22 AM
. * * Re: recon Cat 5orBust   Sun Aug 13 2006 11:29 AM
. * * Re: recon HanKFranK   Sun Aug 13 2006 12:18 PM
. * * Re: recon lowtax   Sun Aug 13 2006 01:18 PM
. * * Re: recon scottsvb   Sun Aug 13 2006 01:38 PM
. * * Re: recon Storm Hunter   Sun Aug 13 2006 01:46 PM
. * * Re: recon scottsvb   Sun Aug 13 2006 02:55 PM
. * * Re: Nothing Immediate Lee-Delray   Fri Aug 11 2006 10:15 PM
. * * Re: Nothing Immediate Beaumont, TX   Fri Aug 11 2006 04:17 PM
. * * Re: Nothing Immediate cieldumort   Fri Aug 11 2006 04:56 PM
. * * Re: Nothing Immediate Clark   Fri Aug 11 2006 05:47 PM
. * * Re: Nothing Immediate cieldumort   Fri Aug 11 2006 06:36 PM
. * * Re: Nothing Immediate *DELETED* wereallgonnadie   Fri Aug 11 2006 08:36 PM
. * * Re: Nothing Immediate Storm Cooper   Fri Aug 11 2006 08:42 PM
. * * Re: Nothing Immediate sara33   Fri Aug 11 2006 10:01 PM
. * * Re: Nothing Immediate BillD   Fri Aug 11 2006 10:24 PM
. * * Re: Nothing Immediate cieldumort   Sat Aug 12 2006 12:00 AM
. * * stuff that probably doesn't matter... HanKFranK   Sat Aug 12 2006 12:28 AM
. * * Re: stuff that probably doesn't matter... cieldumort   Sat Aug 12 2006 02:57 AM
. * * Re: stuff that probably doesn't matter... HurryCaneForm   Sat Aug 12 2006 04:24 PM
. * * NCEP Discussion roundup-early danielwAdministrator   Sat Aug 12 2006 09:53 PM
. * * NWS Randrew   Sun Aug 13 2006 12:27 AM
. * * Re: NWS Ron Basso   Sun Aug 13 2006 10:10 AM
. * * Re: NWS cieldumort   Sun Aug 13 2006 03:16 AM
. * * Cent Atl. Randrew   Sun Aug 13 2006 04:47 AM
. * * Re: Cent Atl. Storm Hunter   Sun Aug 13 2006 09:50 AM
. * * Re: Cent Atl. sunnygm   Sun Aug 13 2006 10:42 AM
. * * Re: Cent Atl. recmod   Sun Aug 13 2006 10:56 AM
. * * Re: Cent Atl. GuppieGrouper   Sun Aug 13 2006 11:03 AM
. * * Re: Cent Atl. stormchazer   Sun Aug 13 2006 11:06 AM
. * * Re: stuff that probably doesn't matter... Ed in Va   Sat Aug 12 2006 01:05 PM
. * * Re: Nothing Immediate Beaumont, TX   Wed Aug 09 2006 10:35 AM
. * * Re: Nothing Immediate allan   Wed Aug 09 2006 11:28 AM
. * * Re: Nothing Immediate *DELETED* Major7   Wed Aug 09 2006 01:01 PM
. * * Re: Nothing Immediate bhnole   Wed Aug 09 2006 02:32 PM
. * * Re: Nothing Immediate Texas Cane Tracker   Wed Aug 09 2006 03:06 PM
. * * something immediate? HanKFranK   Wed Aug 09 2006 10:56 AM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might stormtiger   Wed Aug 09 2006 11:46 AM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might FloydRTurbo   Wed Aug 09 2006 02:24 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might sunnygm   Wed Aug 09 2006 02:35 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might Colleen A.   Wed Aug 09 2006 02:57 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might sunnygm   Wed Aug 09 2006 03:40 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might sunnygm   Wed Aug 09 2006 03:43 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might nl   Wed Aug 09 2006 04:25 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might madmumbler   Wed Aug 09 2006 05:15 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might SirCane   Wed Aug 09 2006 05:21 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might *DELETED* *Killed -- Sent to Graveyard* meto23   Wed Aug 09 2006 06:10 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might sara33   Wed Aug 09 2006 06:28 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might SebastianLou   Wed Aug 09 2006 07:20 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might Storm Hunter   Wed Aug 09 2006 07:50 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might allan   Wed Aug 09 2006 08:07 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might dem05   Wed Aug 09 2006 08:47 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might allan   Wed Aug 09 2006 08:52 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might Hugh   Wed Aug 09 2006 09:07 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might dem05   Wed Aug 09 2006 09:16 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might Storm Hunter   Wed Aug 09 2006 10:41 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might Genesis   Thu Aug 10 2006 12:22 AM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might dem05   Wed Aug 09 2006 11:37 PM
. * * 91L danielwAdministrator   Thu Aug 10 2006 12:10 AM
. * * Re: 91L danielwAdministrator   Thu Aug 10 2006 12:24 AM
. * * Re: 91L cieldumort   Thu Aug 10 2006 01:10 AM
. * * GOM ULL danielwAdministrator   Thu Aug 10 2006 12:36 AM
. * * status quo HanKFranK   Thu Aug 10 2006 01:23 AM
. * * Re: status quo Bloodstar   Thu Aug 10 2006 03:56 AM
. * * Re: 91L taking the hard road stormtiger   Thu Aug 10 2006 09:53 AM
. * * Re: 91L taking the hard road bhnole   Thu Aug 10 2006 11:07 AM
. * * nodebby HanKFranK   Thu Aug 10 2006 11:27 AM
. * * Re: nodebby cuidado   Thu Aug 10 2006 01:37 PM
. * * Re: nodebby cieldumort   Thu Aug 10 2006 01:22 PM
. * * Re: nodebby Beaumont, TX   Thu Aug 10 2006 01:41 PM
. * * Re: nodebby cieldumort   Thu Aug 10 2006 02:03 PM
. * * Re: nodebby Texas Cane Tracker   Thu Aug 10 2006 03:30 PM
. * * Re: nodebby weather_wise911   Thu Aug 10 2006 04:59 PM
. * * Is this the right page? Randrew   Thu Aug 10 2006 10:16 PM
. * * Re: Is this the right page? cuidado   Fri Aug 11 2006 12:31 PM
. * * GOM ULL danielwAdministrator   Thu Aug 10 2006 10:51 PM
. * * Re: nodebby Genesis   Thu Aug 10 2006 04:52 PM
. * * Re: nodebby SirCane   Thu Aug 10 2006 12:34 PM
. * * Re: 91L taking the hard road Ed in Va   Thu Aug 10 2006 11:25 AM
. * * Re: status quo GeneF   Thu Aug 10 2006 08:35 AM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might dem05   Wed Aug 09 2006 11:49 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might scottsvb   Wed Aug 09 2006 11:35 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might GuppieGrouper   Wed Aug 09 2006 05:51 PM
. * * It Ain't over yet Randrew   Wed Aug 09 2006 05:29 PM
. * * Re: It Ain't over yet Beaumont, TX   Wed Aug 09 2006 05:51 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might bhnole   Wed Aug 09 2006 04:34 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might weather_wise911   Wed Aug 09 2006 04:44 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might allan   Wed Aug 09 2006 04:31 PM
. * * No Closed Circulation Randrew   Wed Aug 09 2006 03:59 PM
. * * NRL Site Colleen A.   Wed Aug 09 2006 03:20 PM
. * * Re: NRL Site Fletch   Wed Aug 09 2006 03:35 PM
. * * Re: NRL Site HanKFranK   Wed Aug 09 2006 03:30 PM
. * * Re: NRL Site JOC   Wed Aug 09 2006 03:39 PM
. * * Re: NRL Site Randrew   Wed Aug 09 2006 03:29 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might cieldumort   Wed Aug 09 2006 03:01 PM
. * * ReWasn't it in 2004 we had similar instances stormtiger   Wed Aug 09 2006 03:17 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might cieldumort   Wed Aug 09 2006 02:53 PM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might allan   Wed Aug 09 2006 11:57 AM
. * * Re:immediate will not survive, weak might scottsvb   Wed Aug 09 2006 12:54 PM
. * * barbados obs HanKFranK   Wed Aug 09 2006 11:53 AM
. * * Re: Is the process starting again? stormtiger   Wed Aug 09 2006 12:38 PM
. * * Recon.. wxman007   Wed Aug 09 2006 12:43 PM
. * * Re: Recon.. HanKFranK   Wed Aug 09 2006 01:02 PM
. * * Re: Recon.. scottsvb   Wed Aug 09 2006 01:06 PM
. * * Re: Recon.. scottsvb   Wed Aug 09 2006 01:15 PM
. * * Re: Recon.. cieldumort   Wed Aug 09 2006 01:27 PM
. * * Re: Recon.. scottsvb   Wed Aug 09 2006 01:33 PM
. * * Re: Recon.. HurryCaneForm   Wed Aug 09 2006 01:48 PM
. * * Re: Recon.. JoeFL   Wed Aug 09 2006 01:46 PM
. * * Re: Recon.. SirCane   Wed Aug 09 2006 01:48 PM
. * * Re: Recon.. scottsvb   Wed Aug 09 2006 01:50 PM
. * * Re: Recon.. scottsvb   Wed Aug 09 2006 01:59 PM
. * * Re: Recon.. scottsvb   Wed Aug 09 2006 01:45 PM
. * * Florida ltpat228   Wed Aug 09 2006 12:43 PM
. * * Debby Randrew   Wed Aug 09 2006 11:52 AM
. * * RECON NOT CANCELLED NewWatcher   Wed Aug 09 2006 10:43 AM
. * * Re: Nothing Immediate allan   Wed Aug 09 2006 10:39 AM
. * * Re: Nothing Immediate HanKFranK   Wed Aug 09 2006 08:03 AM
. * * Re: HUH? MapMaster   Wed Aug 09 2006 09:36 AM
. * * Re: HUH? NewWatcher   Wed Aug 09 2006 10:03 AM
. * * Re: HUH? CoalCracker   Wed Aug 09 2006 10:32 AM
. * * Re: HUH? sara33   Wed Aug 09 2006 10:17 AM
. * * Re: HUH? HanKFranK   Wed Aug 09 2006 10:34 AM
. * * Re: HUH? LaVidaCyclone   Wed Aug 09 2006 10:03 AM
. * * Re: HUH? allan   Wed Aug 09 2006 10:00 AM
. * * Re: Nothing Immediate Steve H1   Wed Aug 09 2006 08:50 AM
. * * Re: Nothing Immediate bhnole   Wed Aug 09 2006 08:00 AM

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