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Hugh
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Re: It's trying, it really is....
      Wed May 09 2007 07:58 AM

Quote:

Recon is around in there now, but hasn't sent back a full report (Vortex message), but the system still doesn't have all that much convection wise around the center. We'll probably know fairly shortly.




I thought that was the main difference between a subtropical and tropical system - the fact that in a subtropical storm the convection is largely separated and out from the LLC - that plus the cold core in a subtropical system.

Regarding my earlier comments - things are changing with time with this system. Earlier this morning it looked less impressive to me, but now it's back to getting its act together - VERY rapidly. In fact, it looks more impressive now than ever, particularly in the 1115z image, which is the latest I'm seeing.

Edit: Just pulled up the Jacksonville radar. The center of circulation is clearly visible as a very large eye-like feature on the long range radar. Maybe it's just that the radar loop is not very long - but I also notice this on the AVN loop now that I look at it closer - but I don't think "Unnamed/Andrea" is moving very fast, if at all. Given that the LLC is sitting over or very close to the Gulf stream waters... not good.


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Hugh

Eloise (1975) - Elena and several other near misses (1985) - Erin & Opal (1995) - Ivan (2004)


Edited by Hugh (Wed May 09 2007 08:08 AM)

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* Is the Offshore Storm Subtropical? MikeCAdministrator Wed May 09 2007 07:58 AM
. * * Re: interesting obs on smoke and the storm NewWatcher   Wed May 09 2007 10:47 AM
. * * interesting obs on smoke and the storm LoisCane   Wed May 09 2007 10:38 AM
. * * Re: It's trying, it really is.... ChessieStorm   Wed May 09 2007 10:27 AM
. * * Re: It's trying, it really is.... vineyardsaker   Wed May 09 2007 10:23 AM
. * * Re: It's trying, it really is.... AdrianInFlorida   Wed May 09 2007 10:19 AM
. * * Re: It's trying, it really is.... vineyardsaker   Wed May 09 2007 10:18 AM
. * * Re: It's trying, it really is.... ftlaudbob   Wed May 09 2007 10:17 AM
. * * Re: It's trying, it really is.... MadDog   Wed May 09 2007 10:06 AM
. * * Re: It's trying, it really is.... nl   Wed May 09 2007 10:02 AM
. * * Re: Is the Offshore Storm Subtropical? HCW   Wed May 09 2007 09:59 AM
. * * Re: It's trying, it really is.... vineyardsaker   Wed May 09 2007 09:55 AM
. * * ANDREA NewWatcher   Wed May 09 2007 09:53 AM
. * * Re: Is the Offshore Storm Subtropical? cieldumort   Wed May 09 2007 09:50 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Andrea Hurricane29   Wed May 09 2007 09:17 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Andrea allan   Wed May 09 2007 09:14 AM
. * * Subtropical Storm Andrea cieldumort   Wed May 09 2007 09:07 AM
. * * Re: It's trying, it really is.... cieldumort   Wed May 09 2007 08:45 AM
. * * Re: It's trying, it really is.... dem05   Wed May 09 2007 08:30 AM
. * * Re: It's trying, it really is.... Hugh   Wed May 09 2007 07:58 AM
. * * Re: It's trying, it really is.... MikeCAdministrator   Wed May 09 2007 07:17 AM
. * * Re: It's trying, it really is.... cieldumort   Wed May 09 2007 02:58 AM
. * * It's trying, it really is.... Bloodstar   Wed May 09 2007 02:22 AM
. * * Re: Is the Offshore Storm Subtropical? scottsvb   Wed May 09 2007 01:42 AM
. * * Re: Is the Offshore Storm Subtropical? cieldumort   Wed May 09 2007 01:11 AM
. * * Re: Is the Offshore Storm Subtropical? Clark   Wed May 09 2007 12:11 AM
. * * Re: subtropical storm andrea Bloodstar   Wed May 09 2007 12:10 AM
. * * Re: subtropical storm andrea BillD   Wed May 09 2007 12:04 AM
. * * Re: subtropical storm andrea dem05   Tue May 08 2007 11:47 PM
. * * Re: subtropical storm andrea Hugh   Tue May 08 2007 11:24 PM
. * * Re: subtropical storm andrea dem05   Tue May 08 2007 11:21 PM
. * * Re: subtropical storm andrea BillD   Tue May 08 2007 10:48 PM
. * * Re: subtropical storm andrea Doombot!   Tue May 08 2007 10:47 PM
. * * Re: subtropical storm andrea dem05   Tue May 08 2007 10:17 PM
. * * Re: could there be a storm surge from this system?! dem05   Tue May 08 2007 10:11 PM
. * * subtropical storm andrea HanKFranK   Tue May 08 2007 09:58 PM
. * * Re: could there be a storm surge from this system?! MikeCAdministrator   Tue May 08 2007 09:23 PM
. * * Re: could there be a storm surge from this system?! cieldumort   Tue May 08 2007 09:11 PM
. * * Re: could there be a storm surge from this system?! nc_wx_watcher   Tue May 08 2007 09:06 PM
. * * Re: could there be a storm surge from this system?! Hugh   Tue May 08 2007 06:45 PM
. * * Re: could there be a storm surge from this system?! nc_wx_watcher   Tue May 08 2007 06:43 PM
. * * Re: could there be a storm surge from this system?! Lamar-Plant City   Tue May 08 2007 06:19 PM
. * * Re: could there be a storm surge from this system?! vineyardsaker   Tue May 08 2007 06:11 PM
. * * Re: could there be a storm surge from this system?! vineyardsaker   Tue May 08 2007 06:05 PM
. * * Re: could there be a storm surge from this system?! Lamar-Plant City   Tue May 08 2007 06:03 PM
. * * Re: could there be a storm surge from this system?! Rich B   Tue May 08 2007 05:32 PM
. * * Re: could there be a storm surge from this system?! Ricreig   Tue May 08 2007 05:17 PM
. * * could there be a storm surge from this system?! vineyardsaker   Tue May 08 2007 05:09 PM
. * * Re: so i guess we sit and wait Ricreig   Tue May 08 2007 04:57 PM
. * * Re: so i guess we sit and wait Lamar-Plant City   Tue May 08 2007 04:43 PM
. * * Re: so i guess we sit and wait madmumbler   Tue May 08 2007 04:41 PM
. * * Re: so i guess we sit and wait cieldumort   Tue May 08 2007 04:33 PM
. * * so i guess we sit and wait LoisCane   Tue May 08 2007 04:26 PM
. * * Re: Is the Offshore Storm Subtropical? hurricaneguy   Tue May 08 2007 04:08 PM
. * * Re: Is the Offshore Storm Subtropical? hurricaneguy   Tue May 08 2007 04:02 PM
. * * Re: Is the Offshore Storm Subtropical? weather_wise911   Tue May 08 2007 04:01 PM
. * * Re: Is the Offshore Storm Subtropical? Hurricane29   Tue May 08 2007 03:48 PM
. * * Re: Is the Offshore Storm Subtropical? HCW   Tue May 08 2007 03:19 PM
. * * Re: Is the Offshore Storm Subtropical? MikeCAdministrator   Tue May 08 2007 02:54 PM
. * * Re: gale 90L rookie   Tue May 08 2007 02:44 PM
. * * Re: gale 90L Ricreig   Tue May 08 2007 02:41 PM
. * * Re: gale 90L madmumbler   Tue May 08 2007 02:38 PM
. * * Re: gale 90L rookie   Tue May 08 2007 02:36 PM
. * * Re: gale 90L madmumbler   Tue May 08 2007 02:36 PM
. * * Re: gale 90L Ed in Va   Tue May 08 2007 02:31 PM
. * * Re: gale 90L Hurricane29   Tue May 08 2007 02:13 PM
. * * Re: gale 90L MikeCAdministrator   Tue May 08 2007 02:02 PM
. * * Re: gale 90L Storm Hunter   Tue May 08 2007 01:10 PM
. * * Re: gale 90L rmbjoe1954   Tue May 08 2007 12:56 PM
. * * Re: gale 90L Rich B   Tue May 08 2007 12:45 PM
. * * Re: gale 90L Bloodstar   Tue May 08 2007 12:45 PM
. * * Re: gale 90L Storm Hunter   Tue May 08 2007 11:39 AM
. * * system has every name but subtropical, needs a name LoisCane   Tue May 08 2007 11:38 AM
. * * Re: gale 90L madmumbler   Tue May 08 2007 11:26 AM
. * * Re: gale 90L madmumbler   Tue May 08 2007 11:24 AM
. * * Re: gale 90L allan   Tue May 08 2007 10:26 AM
. * * Re: gale 90L Hootowl   Tue May 08 2007 09:38 AM
. * * Re: gale 90L rookie   Tue May 08 2007 09:30 AM
. * * Re: gale 90L allan   Tue May 08 2007 09:14 AM
. * * Re: gale 90L Hugh   Tue May 08 2007 08:05 AM
. * * Re: gale 90L HanKFranK   Tue May 08 2007 12:12 AM
. * * Re: gale 90L Lamar-Plant City   Mon May 07 2007 11:34 PM
. * * Re: gale 90L PutnamGator   Mon May 07 2007 10:57 PM
. * * Re: gale 90L Storm Hunter   Mon May 07 2007 10:52 PM
. * * Re: gale 90L HCW   Mon May 07 2007 10:45 PM
. * * Re: gale 90L ChessieStorm   Mon May 07 2007 10:31 PM
. * * Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida dem05   Mon May 07 2007 10:23 PM
. * * Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida obxadventurers   Mon May 07 2007 09:37 PM
. * * Re: gale 90L danielwAdministrator   Mon May 07 2007 09:34 PM
. * * Re: gale 90L Storm Hunter   Mon May 07 2007 09:32 PM
. * * Re: gale 90L dem05   Mon May 07 2007 09:26 PM
. * * Re: gale 90L Hugh   Mon May 07 2007 08:21 PM
. * * Re: gale 90L ChessieStorm   Mon May 07 2007 06:38 PM
. * * gale 90L HanKFranK   Mon May 07 2007 06:03 PM
. * * Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida allan   Mon May 07 2007 05:27 PM
. * * Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida vineyardsaker   Mon May 07 2007 05:18 PM
. * * two loops LoisCane   Mon May 07 2007 03:21 PM
. * * Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida Hootowl   Mon May 07 2007 02:32 PM
. * * Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida Lamar-Plant City   Mon May 07 2007 02:30 PM
. * * Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida Storm Hunter   Mon May 07 2007 02:23 PM
. * * Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida cyclone_head   Mon May 07 2007 02:12 PM
. * * Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida Storm Hunter   Mon May 07 2007 01:56 PM
. * * Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida cyclone_head   Mon May 07 2007 01:53 PM
. * * Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida cyclone_head   Mon May 07 2007 01:38 PM
. * * Re: Is there a chance it could become a subtropical? Lamar-Plant City   Mon May 07 2007 12:38 PM
. * * Re: Is there a chance it could become a subtropical? vineyardsaker   Mon May 07 2007 12:29 PM
. * * Re: Is there a chance it could become a subtropical? StormHound   Mon May 07 2007 12:07 PM
. * * Is there a chance it could become a subtropical? LoisCane   Mon May 07 2007 11:32 AM
. * * Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida Lamar-Plant City   Mon May 07 2007 11:01 AM
. * * Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida AdrianInFlorida   Mon May 07 2007 10:22 AM
. * * Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida vineyardsaker   Mon May 07 2007 09:34 AM
. * * Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida NewWatcher   Mon May 07 2007 09:03 AM
. * * Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida HCW   Mon May 07 2007 08:30 AM
. * * Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida AdrianInFlorida   Mon May 07 2007 08:23 AM
. * * Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida Rich B   Mon May 07 2007 07:59 AM

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