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Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch
      Sat May 26 2007 12:32 PM

Models are pretty consistent in terms of *something* down that way and truthfully have been for a few days now. As HF might point out, it fits the Joe Bastardi test of lower pressures across the region. The MJO (upper level wind fields) are somewhat favorable for this time of year as well from the perspective of getting deep convective development. What is there now is sorta in a "bubble" region, i.e. if it goes too far in any direction it either hits less favorable winds or land.

I do urge a little caution with this, however, in particular if the GFS is used with respect to any developments down there. At the start of May, some changes were made to the GFS to hopefully improve its prediction with the formation and intensification (representation) of tropical systems. Unfortunately, it appears that these changes have gone too far and have returned the model to the days of the late 1990s where *everything* coming off of Africa became a tropical system. (Anyone else remember those days? ) Skill scores for the model in the 5-10 day time period, a measure of how well the model verifies, have dropped dramatically since the new GFS code was implemented -- partially due to negative feedbacks from the tropics, I feel.

That said -- there is some support for this in the actual observations and from the other models, so it bears watching. Yesterday's 12z and today's 00z runs of the European model seem to want to feed this energy into the Gulf of Mexico in 6 days' time or so and then into Florida and the southeast as a rain storm associated with a non-tropical area of low pressure. It's a setup more common of February-March than early June, but it's also a setup that can help bust a drought...and one that if there is something tropical out there beforehand could be a more significant event. Tropical or not, it all bears watching over the next week.

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* Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch danielwAdministrator Sat May 26 2007 12:32 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch Hurricane29   Thu May 31 2007 09:32 AM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch cchsweatherman   Thu May 31 2007 08:58 AM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch HURRICANELONNY   Thu May 31 2007 07:43 AM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch allan   Thu May 31 2007 07:41 AM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch GuppieGrouper   Thu May 31 2007 05:41 AM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch cieldumort   Thu May 31 2007 03:28 AM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch Bloodstar   Thu May 31 2007 02:35 AM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch Clark   Thu May 31 2007 12:26 AM
. * * Re: incipient system? Hurricane29   Wed May 30 2007 10:58 PM
. * * Re: incipient system? allan   Wed May 30 2007 10:38 PM
. * * incipient system? HanKFranK   Wed May 30 2007 10:23 PM
. * * Re: A Couple of Notes allan   Wed May 30 2007 08:28 PM
. * * A Couple of Notes Ed DunhamAdministrator   Wed May 30 2007 07:43 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch Ron Basso   Wed May 30 2007 07:33 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch Ron Basso   Wed May 30 2007 07:25 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch Hurricane29   Wed May 30 2007 06:32 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch typhoon_tip   Wed May 30 2007 05:51 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch Bloodstar   Wed May 30 2007 05:18 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch allan   Wed May 30 2007 04:55 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch doug   Wed May 30 2007 04:47 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch Ron Basso   Wed May 30 2007 03:30 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch Hurricane29   Wed May 30 2007 03:19 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch scottsvb   Wed May 30 2007 02:29 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch Hurricane29   Wed May 30 2007 02:17 PM
. * * Re: New Area to Watch ??? scottsvb   Wed May 30 2007 02:15 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch Ron Basso   Wed May 30 2007 02:12 PM
. * * Re: New Area to Watch ??? madmumbler   Wed May 30 2007 02:11 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch Ron Basso   Wed May 30 2007 01:59 PM
. * * Re: New Area to Watch ??? scottsvb   Wed May 30 2007 01:51 PM
. * * Re: New Area to Watch ??? Hurricane29   Wed May 30 2007 01:35 PM
. * * Re: New Area to Watch ??? scottsvb   Wed May 30 2007 01:29 PM
. * * Re: New Area to Watch ??? madmumbler   Wed May 30 2007 01:07 PM
. * * Re: New Area to Watch ??? cchsweatherman   Wed May 30 2007 11:12 AM
. * * Re: New Area to Watch ??? hurricaneguy   Wed May 30 2007 10:52 AM
. * * Re: New Area to Watch ??? NewWatcher   Wed May 30 2007 10:33 AM
. * * Re: New Area to Watch ??? Hurricane29   Wed May 30 2007 10:12 AM
. * * Re: New Area to Watch ??? cchsweatherman   Wed May 30 2007 09:48 AM
. * * Re: New Area to Watch ??? Hurricane29   Wed May 30 2007 09:23 AM
. * * Re: New Area to Watch ??? allan   Wed May 30 2007 09:18 AM
. * * Re: New Area to Watch ??? flarrfan   Wed May 30 2007 08:59 AM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch Hootowl   Wed May 30 2007 07:17 AM
. * * Re: New Area to Watch ??? cieldumort   Wed May 30 2007 05:12 AM
. * * New Area to Watch ??? danielwAdministrator   Wed May 30 2007 04:24 AM
. * * Afternoon Model Updates-NWS Melbourne,FL danielwAdministrator   Tue May 29 2007 09:47 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch MissBecky   Tue May 29 2007 01:59 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch Hurricane29   Tue May 29 2007 01:35 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch cchsweatherman   Tue May 29 2007 01:33 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch Rich B   Tue May 29 2007 12:06 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch madmumbler   Tue May 29 2007 08:10 AM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch scottsvb   Mon May 28 2007 10:40 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch dem05   Mon May 28 2007 05:23 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch scottsvb   Mon May 28 2007 02:28 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch allan   Mon May 28 2007 01:49 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch Hurricane29   Mon May 28 2007 01:40 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch allan   Mon May 28 2007 01:14 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch Rich B   Mon May 28 2007 05:18 AM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch typhoon_tip   Sun May 27 2007 11:30 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch LoisCane   Sun May 27 2007 06:07 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch typhoon_tip   Sun May 27 2007 03:18 PM
. * * Re: i see it Clark but... allan   Sun May 27 2007 08:57 AM
. * * i see it Clark but... LoisCane   Sun May 27 2007 08:17 AM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch Clark   Sat May 26 2007 11:41 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch HURRICANELONNY   Sat May 26 2007 06:19 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch Tony Cristaldi   Sat May 26 2007 06:11 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch cieldumort   Sat May 26 2007 05:54 PM
. * * Quick Update danielwAdministrator   Sat May 26 2007 02:33 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch Clark   Sat May 26 2007 12:32 PM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch dem05   Sat May 26 2007 11:45 AM
. * * Re: Memorial Day Weekend Area to Watch Rich B   Sat May 26 2007 10:16 AM

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