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Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Hurricane Lorenzo Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico
      Fri Sep 28 2007 09:30 AM

Well, here we go again......, Karen moving north, wait west, wait....southwest? The shear is up, now down, but coming back?! What an appropriate storm for the year we are having! If Karen were a smaller system in an "average year", i'd say we would soon be witnessing the basic de-coupling of the low level from mid levels and "game over".

On first visible sat., it appeared to me that now Karen is drifting or moving northeast??!! Upon closer review, it would seem that NHC has been tracking the center, which appears NOW to be a tighter vorticity which is obviously weakening against the shear; now acting as a more decoupled mid level, which is rotating around the broader low level surface low. In fact, perhaps not rotating around it so much, but perhaps soon to be entirely de-coupled from it. Again, in normal years, this would be the end of the system, but who knows.....
Models remain consistant with tending to re-develop and strengthen Karen, and in fact seem fairly in line with a late track cycle even more westward ( with odd exception to 0600Z run of GFDL and the European's 0Z run which from 7-10 days, just starts acting "wiggy" ).

I do not see how, given the overall appearance of Karen, how she maintains Tropical Storm designation. That said, I think we will see a large low level swirl moving around 180 degrees which will either do one of two things - eventually spin itself out and go away, or possibly redevelop under lighter shear in 2-3 days, only then to start tracking towards the Bahamas and possibly Florida. After many years of tracking and chasing hurricane's, i'd go with the "spin itself out option". This year however? Models seem more inconsistant than past years, and i'm at a point where practically nothing would surprise me.

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* Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Hurricane Lorenzo Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico MikeCAdministrator Fri Sep 28 2007 09:30 AM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Hurricane Lorenzo Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico weathernet   Fri Sep 28 2007 09:30 AM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Hurricane Lorenzo Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Lee-Delray   Fri Sep 28 2007 08:11 AM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Hurricane Lorenzo Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico flanewscameraman   Fri Sep 28 2007 06:06 AM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Hurricane Lorenzo Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico cieldumort   Fri Sep 28 2007 05:09 AM
. * * Re: Lorenzo becomes a hurricane Storm Hunter   Thu Sep 27 2007 10:59 PM
. * * Lorenzo becomes a hurricane Rabbit   Thu Sep 27 2007 07:54 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico craigm   Thu Sep 27 2007 06:01 PM
. * * next week HanKFranK   Thu Sep 27 2007 05:52 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Lee-Delray   Thu Sep 27 2007 04:37 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Ed in Va   Thu Sep 27 2007 04:13 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Steve H1   Thu Sep 27 2007 04:08 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Bloodstar   Thu Sep 27 2007 03:35 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico cieldumort   Thu Sep 27 2007 02:36 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico allan   Thu Sep 27 2007 02:13 PM
. * * Re: Discussion Excerpts craigm   Thu Sep 27 2007 12:51 PM
. * * Re: Discussion Excerpts Storm Surfer   Thu Sep 27 2007 12:44 PM
. * * Re: Discussion Excerpts cieldumort   Thu Sep 27 2007 01:35 AM
. * * Discussion Excerpts danielwAdministrator   Thu Sep 27 2007 01:10 AM
. * * Re: Karen Vortex Storm Hunter   Wed Sep 26 2007 11:17 PM
. * * Karen Vortex danielwAdministrator   Wed Sep 26 2007 08:54 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Lee-Delray   Wed Sep 26 2007 08:45 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Storm Hunter   Wed Sep 26 2007 08:35 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico craigm   Wed Sep 26 2007 08:00 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico cieldumort   Wed Sep 26 2007 07:04 PM
. * * Re: 98L, Karen, and TD13 StrmTrckrMiami   Wed Sep 26 2007 05:51 PM
. * * Re: 98L, Karen, and TD13 Fletch   Wed Sep 26 2007 05:26 PM
. * * Re: 98L, Karen, and TD13 flnelson   Wed Sep 26 2007 04:56 PM
. * * Re: 98L, Karen, and TD13 Storm Hunter   Wed Sep 26 2007 03:33 PM
. * * 98L, Karen, and TD13 Bloodstar   Wed Sep 26 2007 02:52 PM
. * * Re: Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? WeatherNut   Wed Sep 26 2007 02:27 PM
. * * Re: Explanation Please Storm Hunter   Wed Sep 26 2007 02:04 PM
. * * Explanation Please Beach   Wed Sep 26 2007 01:16 PM
. * * Re: Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? LoisCane   Wed Sep 26 2007 12:24 PM
. * * Re: Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? Storm Hunter   Wed Sep 26 2007 11:41 AM
. * * Re: Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? cieldumort   Wed Sep 26 2007 11:31 AM
. * * Re: Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? OUSHAWN   Wed Sep 26 2007 10:58 AM
. * * Re: Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? MikeCAdministrator   Wed Sep 26 2007 10:57 AM
. * * Re: Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? MikeCAdministrator   Wed Sep 26 2007 10:33 AM
. * * Re: Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? Lee-Delray   Wed Sep 26 2007 09:48 AM
. * * Re: Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? craigm   Wed Sep 26 2007 09:39 AM
. * * Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? punkyg   Wed Sep 26 2007 09:15 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico craigm   Wed Sep 26 2007 07:24 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico cieldumort   Wed Sep 26 2007 04:01 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Rabbit   Wed Sep 26 2007 03:33 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico cieldumort   Wed Sep 26 2007 03:26 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Rabbit   Wed Sep 26 2007 03:11 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Storm Hunter   Wed Sep 26 2007 01:58 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico weathernet   Wed Sep 26 2007 01:06 AM

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