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LoisCane
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Re: Notes from satellite observations
      Wed Oct 31 2007 11:27 AM

Yeah, in a discussion I found hard to read compared to the excellent one beven did at 5... they seem to feel they may have to issue a warning because we will be experiencing tropical storm winds but it's not really from the storm but from the pressure gradient and they posed the question why... sort of... and referred us to the NWS for more info

After the 11 am discussion I may spend the rest of the day on NWS and here....

Why?

Because if we have tropical storm force winds then it should be issued and not a high wind warning

why? people pay attn to Tropical Storm Warnings.. vs Wind Warnings which they think means "windy"

Why? Does it make a difference if its from a gradient connected to Noel or from Noel directly.. if some palm branch flies into your car window shield while you are driving your child to go halloweening "for just a little while" ...do you care the wind came from the storm itself or the weather associated with the storm..

Words games while the public's interests are not being served...

No one is saying a Cat 2 Hurricane is moving towards South Florida but while this storm intensifies (clearly happening) and expands (definitely) the winds will pick up and people need to know whether to expect kids to go to school tomorrow or drive a long commute into work or take the day off.

After Irene I thought they learned and it doesn't help to go on and update at 1pm after everyone is stuck at work far from home or out in traffic with rising water and rising winds..

and.. I don't care if it's extra-tropical or tropical.. i care what the winds will be and if i will or wont be in their path

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* Noel Moving Northward - Tropical Storm Warnings up for South Florida MikeCAdministrator Wed Oct 31 2007 11:27 AM
. * * Re: Noel Moving Northward - Tropical Storm Warnings up for South Florida cieldumort   Fri Nov 02 2007 05:16 AM
. * * Re: Noel Moving Northward - Tropical Storm Warnings up for South Florida cieldumort   Fri Nov 02 2007 02:28 AM
. * * Re: Noel Moving Northward - Tropical Storm Warnings up for South Florida allan   Thu Nov 01 2007 10:28 PM
. * * Re: Noel Moving Northward - Tropical Storm Warnings up for South Florida allan   Thu Nov 01 2007 09:41 PM
. * * Re: Noel Moving Northward - Tropical Storm Warnings up for South Florida scottsvb   Thu Nov 01 2007 09:15 PM
. * * Re: Noel Moving Northward - Tropical Storm Warnings up for South Florida allan   Thu Nov 01 2007 08:38 PM
. * * Re: Noel Moving Northward - Tropical Storm Warnings up for South Florida sailor   Thu Nov 01 2007 05:34 PM
. * * Re: Noel Moving Northward - Tropical Storm Warnings up for South Florida sailor   Thu Nov 01 2007 01:49 PM
. * * Re: Noel Moving Northward - Tropical Storm Warnings up for South Florida doug   Thu Nov 01 2007 12:46 PM
. * * Re: Noel Moving Northward - Tropical Storm Warnings up for South Florida allan   Thu Nov 01 2007 12:45 PM
. * * Re: Noel Moving Northward - Tropical Storm Warnings up for South Florida Lee-Delray   Thu Nov 01 2007 12:30 PM
. * * Re: Noel Moving Northward - Tropical Storm Warnings up for South Florida scottsvb   Thu Nov 01 2007 12:26 PM
. * * Re: Noel Moving Northward - Tropical Storm Warnings up for South Florida ftlaudbob   Thu Nov 01 2007 12:13 PM
. * * Re: Noel Moving Northward - Tropical Storm Warnings up for South Florida Storm Hobbyist   Thu Nov 01 2007 12:09 PM
. * * Re: Noel Moving Northward - Tropical Storm Warnings up for South Florida Lee-Delray   Thu Nov 01 2007 10:56 AM
. * * Re: Noel Moving Northward - Tropical Storm Warnings up for South Florida doug   Thu Nov 01 2007 10:53 AM
. * * Re: Noel Inches Westward - TS Watch For South Florida - TS/Warning Hurricane Watch for Bahamas craigm   Thu Nov 01 2007 07:23 AM
. * * Re: Noel Inches Westward - TS Watch For South Florida - TS/Warning Hurricane Watch for Bahamas weathernet   Thu Nov 01 2007 05:46 AM
. * * Re: Storm Watches and Warnings mikethewreck   Thu Nov 01 2007 05:07 AM
. * * Storm Watches and Warnings ltpat228   Thu Nov 01 2007 12:40 AM
. * * Re: Recon LoisCane   Thu Nov 01 2007 12:34 AM
. * * Re: Recon cieldumort   Wed Oct 31 2007 11:58 PM
. * * Re: Recon ftlaudbob   Wed Oct 31 2007 11:27 PM
. * * Re: Recon Storm Hunter   Wed Oct 31 2007 11:17 PM
. * * Re: Recon danielwAdministrator   Wed Oct 31 2007 11:01 PM
. * * Re: Recon Old Sailor   Wed Oct 31 2007 10:58 PM
. * * Re: Recon danielwAdministrator   Wed Oct 31 2007 10:50 PM
. * * Re: Recon danielwAdministrator   Wed Oct 31 2007 10:39 PM
. * * Re: Recon Hurricane29   Wed Oct 31 2007 10:31 PM
. * * Re: Recon danielwAdministrator   Wed Oct 31 2007 10:28 PM
. * * Re: Rainfall Colleen A.   Wed Oct 31 2007 10:20 PM
. * * Re: Recon Storm Hunter   Wed Oct 31 2007 10:16 PM
. * * Re: Rainfall Hurricane29   Wed Oct 31 2007 10:12 PM
. * * Re: Rainfall danielwAdministrator   Wed Oct 31 2007 10:10 PM
. * * Rainfall danielwAdministrator   Wed Oct 31 2007 09:55 PM
. * * Re: if they get together, both centers... Hurricane29   Wed Oct 31 2007 09:49 PM
. * * Re: if they get together, both centers... cieldumort   Wed Oct 31 2007 09:41 PM
. * * Recon danielwAdministrator   Wed Oct 31 2007 09:28 PM
. * * Re: if they get together, both centers... LoisCane   Wed Oct 31 2007 08:56 PM
. * * Re: if they get together, both centers... danielwAdministrator   Wed Oct 31 2007 08:54 PM
. * * if they get together, both centers... LoisCane   Wed Oct 31 2007 08:39 PM
. * * Re: Noel Inches Westward - TS Watch For South Florida LoisCane   Wed Oct 31 2007 08:37 PM
. * * Re: Noel Inches Westward - TS Watch For South Florida Ed DunhamAdministrator   Wed Oct 31 2007 08:22 PM
. * * Re: Noel Inches Westward - TS Watch For South Florida Hurricane29   Wed Oct 31 2007 08:02 PM
. * * Re: Noel Inches Westward - TS Watch For South Florida Ed DunhamAdministrator   Wed Oct 31 2007 07:48 PM
. * * Re: Noel Emerges into the Atlantic, South Florida Watching Movement Closely jessiej   Wed Oct 31 2007 07:40 PM
. * * Re: Noel Emerges into the Atlantic, South Florida Watching Movement Closely Tak   Wed Oct 31 2007 07:34 PM
. * * Re: Noel Emerges into the Atlantic, South Florida Watching Movement Closely LoisCane   Wed Oct 31 2007 06:55 PM
. * * Re: Noel Emerges into the Atlantic, South Florida Watching Movement Closely weathernet   Wed Oct 31 2007 05:52 PM
. * * Re: Noel Emerges into the Atlantic, South Florida Watching Movement Closely Colleen A.   Wed Oct 31 2007 05:13 PM
. * * Re: Noel Emerges into the Atlantic, South Florida Watching Movement Closely Colleen A.   Wed Oct 31 2007 05:01 PM
. * * Re: Noel Emerges into the Atlantic, South Florida Watching Movement Closely Storm Hobbyist   Wed Oct 31 2007 04:56 PM
. * * Re: Noel Emerges into the Atlantic, South Florida Watching Movement Closely doug   Wed Oct 31 2007 04:53 PM
. * * Re: Noel Emerges into the Atlantic, South Florida Watching Movement Closely Lee-Delray   Wed Oct 31 2007 04:42 PM
. * * Re: Noel Emerges into the Atlantic, South Florida Watching Movement Closely Lee-Delray   Wed Oct 31 2007 04:37 PM
. * * Re: Noel Emerges into the Atlantic, South Florida Watching Movement Closely ftlaudbob   Wed Oct 31 2007 04:35 PM
. * * Re: Noel Emerges into the Atlantic, South Florida Watching Movement Closely doug   Wed Oct 31 2007 04:20 PM
. * * Re: Noel Emerges into the Atlantic, South Florida Watching Movement Closely cieldumort   Wed Oct 31 2007 04:03 PM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations doug   Wed Oct 31 2007 03:45 PM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations Lamar-Plant City   Wed Oct 31 2007 03:23 PM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations MikeCAdministrator   Wed Oct 31 2007 03:11 PM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations danielwAdministrator   Wed Oct 31 2007 02:59 PM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations ftlaudbob   Wed Oct 31 2007 02:51 PM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations scottsvb   Wed Oct 31 2007 02:04 PM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations Hurricane29   Wed Oct 31 2007 02:03 PM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations doug   Wed Oct 31 2007 01:56 PM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations scottsvb   Wed Oct 31 2007 01:21 PM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations Hurricane29   Wed Oct 31 2007 01:03 PM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations Hurricane29   Wed Oct 31 2007 12:57 PM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations MikeCAdministrator   Wed Oct 31 2007 12:52 PM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations Storm Hunter   Wed Oct 31 2007 12:51 PM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations doug   Wed Oct 31 2007 12:50 PM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations Hurricane29   Wed Oct 31 2007 12:50 PM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations Stormin_thru   Wed Oct 31 2007 12:48 PM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations scottsvb   Wed Oct 31 2007 12:40 PM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations cieldumort   Wed Oct 31 2007 12:10 PM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations Lee-Delray   Wed Oct 31 2007 12:08 PM
. * * great graphicsq LoisCane   Wed Oct 31 2007 12:05 PM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations Colleen A.   Wed Oct 31 2007 11:53 AM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations Lamar-Plant City   Wed Oct 31 2007 11:52 AM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations craigm   Wed Oct 31 2007 11:47 AM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations Storm Hunter   Wed Oct 31 2007 11:46 AM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations MikeCAdministrator   Wed Oct 31 2007 11:34 AM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations doug   Wed Oct 31 2007 11:33 AM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations LoisCane   Wed Oct 31 2007 11:27 AM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations Steve H1   Wed Oct 31 2007 11:07 AM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations doug   Wed Oct 31 2007 11:05 AM
. * * Re: Notes from satellite observations LoisCane   Wed Oct 31 2007 10:54 AM
. * * Notes from satellite observations danielwAdministrator   Wed Oct 31 2007 10:51 AM
. * * Re: Noel Emerges into the Atlantic LoisCane   Wed Oct 31 2007 10:33 AM
. * * Re: Noel Emerges into the Atlantic doug   Wed Oct 31 2007 10:28 AM
. * * Re: Noel Emerges into the Atlantic danielwAdministrator   Wed Oct 31 2007 10:22 AM
. * * Re: Noel Emerges into the Atlantic danielwAdministrator   Wed Oct 31 2007 10:12 AM
. * * Re: Noel Emerges into the Atlantic MikeCAdministrator   Wed Oct 31 2007 10:11 AM
. * * Re: Noel Emerges into the Atlantic LoisCane   Wed Oct 31 2007 09:58 AM
. * * Re: Noel Emerges into the Atlantic Lee-Delray   Wed Oct 31 2007 09:52 AM
. * * Re: Noel Emerges into the Atlantic charlottefl   Wed Oct 31 2007 09:42 AM
. * * Re: Noel Emerges into the Atlantic MikeCAdministrator   Wed Oct 31 2007 09:33 AM
. * * Re: Noel Emerges into the Atlantic cieldumort   Wed Oct 31 2007 09:21 AM
. * * Re: Noel Emerges into the Atlantic weathernet   Wed Oct 31 2007 09:19 AM

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