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Re: alma starts a fight
      Sat May 31 2008 02:13 PM

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The fact of the matter is that under current storm naming protocols/rules, if a named storm travels from one body of water, across land, and then into another body of water, the storm is renamed. It doesn't matter if the storm maintains itself or not, so in this instance, the origins of Arthur are irrelevant in its naming.




This is actually a very common misunderstanding.


A couple of years ago the policy was changed. If and when a system crosses into another basin, even by way of land, as long as its core remains intact and is very much the nucleus for renewed development, then it retains the same name.

This was not the case this time, however. As an example of what happened today, this situation is not at all dissimilar to TD 10 being dropped and replaced with TD12 (Katrina ATL 2005).

The core surface circulation of Alma did in fact wash out over the mountains of Central America, while much of its moisture and related mid-level vorticity went on to merge with a preexisting surface low which was birthed by the same parent broad area of low pressure. Additionally, it is likely that at least one approaching easterly wave interacted with this soup in a fashion that helped to get the new spins going, which finally took shape in what is now (officially) Tropical Storm Arthur.

Consider this from NHC's Special Discussion Number 1
Quote:

THIS SYSTEM IS NOT DESIGNATED TROPICAL STORM ALMA BECAUSE THE
SURFACE CENTER OF ALMA DISSIPATED OVER THE HIGH TERRAIN OF CENTRAL
AMERICA YESTERDAY.




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* East Pacific Alma Over Land MikeCAdministrator Sat May 31 2008 02:13 PM
. * * Administrative Note Ed DunhamAdministrator   Sat May 31 2008 04:41 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight Storm Hunter   Sat May 31 2008 04:36 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight DarleneCane   Sat May 31 2008 04:13 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight dem05   Sat May 31 2008 03:59 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight HCW   Sat May 31 2008 03:37 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight pschex   Sat May 31 2008 03:08 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight Hugh   Sat May 31 2008 03:03 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight Storm Hunter   Sat May 31 2008 02:59 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight dem05   Sat May 31 2008 02:36 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight Storm Hunter   Sat May 31 2008 02:29 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight Hugh   Sat May 31 2008 02:19 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight cieldumort   Sat May 31 2008 02:13 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight HanKFranK   Sat May 31 2008 02:10 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight dem05   Sat May 31 2008 02:00 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight xxflcyclonexx   Sat May 31 2008 01:46 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight Rich B   Sat May 31 2008 01:37 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight Hugh   Sat May 31 2008 01:29 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight Old Sailor   Sat May 31 2008 01:25 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight dem05   Sat May 31 2008 01:19 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight Hugh   Sat May 31 2008 01:08 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight MichaelA   Sat May 31 2008 01:06 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight Ricreig   Sat May 31 2008 01:03 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight MichaelA   Sat May 31 2008 12:54 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight Hugh   Sat May 31 2008 12:43 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight scottsvb   Sat May 31 2008 12:40 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight Hugh   Sat May 31 2008 12:23 PM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight weathernet   Sat May 31 2008 12:01 PM
. * * Re: East Pacific Alma Over Land allan   Sat May 31 2008 11:49 AM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight scottsvb   Sat May 31 2008 11:13 AM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight MichaelA   Sat May 31 2008 11:05 AM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight doug   Sat May 31 2008 10:15 AM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight DarleneCane   Sat May 31 2008 09:33 AM
. * * Re: alma starts a fight Hugh   Sat May 31 2008 09:23 AM
. * * alma starts a fight HanKFranK   Sat May 31 2008 06:48 AM
. * * Re: Invest 90L Intensifying Rich B   Sat May 31 2008 05:55 AM
. * * Invest 90L Intensifying cieldumort   Sat May 31 2008 12:45 AM
. * * Re: We now have 90L weatherguy08   Fri May 30 2008 10:43 PM
. * * Re: We now have 90L Old Sailor   Fri May 30 2008 09:26 PM
. * * Re: We now have 90L MichaelA   Fri May 30 2008 07:03 PM
. * * We now have 90L Bloodstar   Fri May 30 2008 06:48 PM
. * * Re: dropped? MichaelA   Fri May 30 2008 06:34 PM
. * * dropped? HanKFranK   Fri May 30 2008 06:09 PM
. * * Re: East Pacific Alma Over Land cieldumort   Fri May 30 2008 05:43 PM
. * * Re: alma inland MichaelA   Fri May 30 2008 01:08 PM
. * * Re: alma inland Storm Hunter   Fri May 30 2008 11:21 AM
. * * Re: alma inland allan   Fri May 30 2008 10:59 AM
. * * Re: alma inland doug   Fri May 30 2008 10:58 AM
. * * Re: alma inland MichaelA   Fri May 30 2008 10:27 AM
. * * Re: alma inland Hugh   Fri May 30 2008 08:01 AM
. * * Re: alma inland Beach   Fri May 30 2008 07:31 AM
. * * Re: East Pacific Alma Likely to Become Hurricane Maitland, FL   Fri May 30 2008 07:19 AM
. * * Re: alma inland dem05   Fri May 30 2008 02:29 AM
. * * Re: alma inland Storm Hunter   Fri May 30 2008 01:42 AM
. * * Re: alma inland dem05   Thu May 29 2008 09:36 PM
. * * alma inland HanKFranK   Thu May 29 2008 06:18 PM
. * * Re: East Pacific Alma Likely to Become Hurricane allan   Thu May 29 2008 04:57 PM
. * * Re: East Pacific Alma Likely to Become Hurricane MichaelA   Thu May 29 2008 04:15 PM
. * * Re: East Pacific Alma Likely to Become Hurricane srquirrely   Thu May 29 2008 03:31 PM
. * * Re: East Pacific Alma Likely to Become Hurricane scottsvb   Thu May 29 2008 02:58 PM
. * * Re: East Pacific Alma Likely to Become Hurricane Storm Hunter   Thu May 29 2008 02:56 PM
. * * Re: East Pacific Alma Likely to Become Hurricane Beach   Thu May 29 2008 01:38 PM

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