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Re: Hurricane Bertha Forms in Atlantic, Bermuda needs to Watch
      Mon Jul 07 2008 03:59 PM

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NRL now have her at 970mb and 90knots - will be interesting to see if NHC put her at 100 or 105 mph. Either way, looks like Bertha is on her way to Major Cane status.



I was watching this this afternoon and it looks intense to me as well. The last 2 hours in particular have wrapped her CDO into some impressive symmetry.

She also appears to me to be already moving NW... The last 5 hours of looping is tough to argue against. I have a thread going over in the forecast lounge that discusses some things that could (and would need to) happen in order to keep this moving west. Clearly, those things are not taking place.

The recent ECM runs have been signaling a quasi -PNA pattern evolution for the U.S., and the thinking was that such a resulting Ohio Valley/Tennessee Valley ridge axis would probably merge with the persistent west/central Atlantic ridge. That would have pinned Bertha underneath, regardless of what the models had 3 days ago. However, Bertha moved too quickly across the Basin. I don't argue that there is a weakness in the geopotential medium and that there is some steering level response; just look at Bertha's motion.. However, her moving across the Atlantic Basin at near ludicrous speeds appears pretty clearly now to outrun these larger scale changes.

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* A few changes with Bertha John C Mon Jul 07 2008 03:59 PM
. * * Re: A few changes with Bertha Hugh   Fri Jul 11 2008 10:11 PM
. * * Re: A few changes with Bertha typhoon_tip   Fri Jul 11 2008 09:27 PM
. * * Re: A few changes with Bertha ~Floydbuster   Fri Jul 11 2008 07:27 PM
. * * Re:new way to look Gigsley   Fri Jul 11 2008 05:55 PM
. * * Re: Question LoisCane   Fri Jul 11 2008 03:22 PM
. * * Re: Question Storm Hunter   Fri Jul 11 2008 11:54 AM
. * * Question Beach   Thu Jul 10 2008 08:24 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha regaining some strength. Still Moving Northwest LoisCane   Thu Jul 10 2008 08:09 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha regaining some strength. Still Moving Northwest Treymont   Thu Jul 10 2008 03:05 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha regaining some strength. Still Moving Northwest Treymont   Thu Jul 10 2008 02:53 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha regaining some strength. Still Moving Northwest typhoon_tip   Thu Jul 10 2008 01:58 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha regaining some strength. Still Moving Northwest Ed in Va   Thu Jul 10 2008 01:38 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha regaining some strength. Still Moving Northwest typhoon_tip   Thu Jul 10 2008 12:36 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha regaining some strength. Still Moving Northwest Treymont   Thu Jul 10 2008 11:41 AM
. * * Models danielwAdministrator   Thu Jul 10 2008 11:35 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha regaining some strength. Still Moving Northwest Storm Cooper   Thu Jul 10 2008 05:23 AM
. * * Bertha back to a Category Two neospaceblue   Wed Jul 09 2008 04:37 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha regaining some strength. Still Moving Northwest JoshuaK   Wed Jul 09 2008 04:16 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha regaining some strength. Still Moving Northwest Rich B   Wed Jul 09 2008 03:27 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha regaining some strength. Still Moving Northwest cieldumort   Wed Jul 09 2008 03:26 PM
. * * Discussion Heads Up danielwAdministrator   Wed Jul 09 2008 01:15 PM
. * * Definite strengthening signaled by satellite... typhoon_tip   Wed Jul 09 2008 12:51 PM
. * * Bertha Influences?? danielwAdministrator   Wed Jul 09 2008 12:51 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Weakening Now Moving Northwest Rich B   Wed Jul 09 2008 12:39 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Weakening Now Moving Northwest typhoon_tip   Wed Jul 09 2008 12:21 PM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving WNW ftlaudbob   Wed Jul 09 2008 12:08 PM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving WNW SATBEACH   Wed Jul 09 2008 11:40 AM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest cieldumort   Wed Jul 09 2008 05:11 AM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest WhitherWeather   Wed Jul 09 2008 01:59 AM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest Ed DunhamAdministrator   Wed Jul 09 2008 12:58 AM
. * * Bertha Weakening. Robert   Wed Jul 09 2008 12:47 AM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest typhoon_tip   Wed Jul 09 2008 12:28 AM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest LDH892   Wed Jul 09 2008 12:16 AM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest LoisCane   Tue Jul 08 2008 11:53 PM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest typhoon_tip   Tue Jul 08 2008 11:24 PM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest Hugh   Tue Jul 08 2008 10:14 PM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest Ed DunhamAdministrator   Tue Jul 08 2008 10:07 PM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest Hugh   Tue Jul 08 2008 09:14 PM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest M.A.   Tue Jul 08 2008 09:09 PM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest LoisCane   Tue Jul 08 2008 08:02 AM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest danielwAdministrator   Mon Jul 07 2008 10:38 PM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest LoisCane   Mon Jul 07 2008 10:36 PM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest Hugh   Mon Jul 07 2008 10:12 PM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest cieldumort   Mon Jul 07 2008 10:02 PM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest Robert   Mon Jul 07 2008 09:24 PM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest Hugh   Mon Jul 07 2008 09:22 PM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest Ed DunhamAdministrator   Mon Jul 07 2008 08:56 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Forms in Atlantic, Bermuda needs to Watch Hugh   Mon Jul 07 2008 08:12 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Forms in Atlantic, Bermuda needs to Watch LoisCane   Mon Jul 07 2008 08:01 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Forms in Atlantic, Bermuda needs to Watch M.A.   Mon Jul 07 2008 07:54 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Forms in Atlantic, Bermuda needs to Watch Hugh   Mon Jul 07 2008 06:48 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Forms in Atlantic, Bermuda needs to Watch cieldumort   Mon Jul 07 2008 04:30 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Forms in Atlantic, Bermuda needs to Watch typhoon_tip   Mon Jul 07 2008 03:59 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Forms in Atlantic, Bermuda needs to Watch Rich B   Mon Jul 07 2008 03:36 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Forms in Atlantic, Bermuda needs to Watch ftlaudbob   Mon Jul 07 2008 03:24 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Forms in Atlantic, Bermuda needs to Watch Rich B   Mon Jul 07 2008 02:45 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Forms in Atlantic, Bermuda needs to Watch allan   Mon Jul 07 2008 01:56 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Forms in Atlantic, Bermuda needs to Watch scottsvb   Mon Jul 07 2008 01:41 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha typhoon_tip   Mon Jul 07 2008 01:05 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Forms in Atlantic, Bermuda needs to Watch allan   Mon Jul 07 2008 12:41 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha chase 22   Mon Jul 07 2008 12:23 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha MikeCAdministrator   Mon Jul 07 2008 11:33 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Fr33z3y   Mon Jul 07 2008 10:58 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha scottsvb   Mon Jul 07 2008 10:29 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha MikeCAdministrator   Mon Jul 07 2008 09:31 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha craigm   Mon Jul 07 2008 07:43 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha cieldumort   Mon Jul 07 2008 07:41 AM

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